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You got the best immediate response you could expect, which is the state mobilizing the national guard plus rescues done by the Coast Guard as well as private parties.
What the do you think the Coast Guard and National Guard were doing two Mondays ago, Manny?
I think we should wait for a definitive body count before we condemn the federal rescue effort.
You got the best immediate response you could expect, which is the state mobilizing the national guard plus rescues done by the Coast Guard as well as private parties.
If you think the rescue operation was at an acceptable level...well....
No, I think with planning it could have been a much more efficent operation. They could have controlled the security of the city to allow the rescue operations to operate in a much better manner for one.
On that scale? That's unrealistic.
In hind sight, everything can be done better. But when something so devistating happens on such a large scale, I'm not surprised things don't go as smoothly as they should have in a perfect senario.
Not only are people expecting the feds to operate with an unheard of efficiency, but they are also expecting the Louisiana state government as well as the city of New Orleans to have operated in such a manner. Simply unreasonable.
Sure, the government ed up and would have ed up no matter how much planning was done beforehand.
quit playing the blame game seriously
Actually, I believe the Coast Guard was rescuing citizens the day after, if not the day of.
Expecting a higher level of execution by the various levels of government is unrealistic.
That's because the state didn't make the request which is due to the general lack of desire in this country of having the military turn into a domestic law enforcement unit.
Of course it's unrealistic to expect the feds to have some kind of perfect instantaneous response.
BushCo told us over and over again during the election that they will keep us safe. BushCo made the promise and won the election because they convinced more voters, but now BushCo shouldn't take the blame? GIve me a break.
Who believes politicians?
I don't know how some of you can act liked your satisfied to the FED reaction to this crisis. Much more could have been done, much more should have been done. As I posted before in the They Died of Contempt thread there was a ship called the USS Baaton sailing off the coast of NO which had a 1000 bed hospital and was capable of producing 100,000 gallons of fresh water per day. None of these assets were utilized by the FEDS, but people would rather talk about 7,000 imaginary NG troops between Baton Rouge and NO that the Governor supposedly never utilized. They fell for the spin about Iraq, now they are falling for the spin about NO.
There is no way that choppers are going to be flying in hurricane force winds. Boats won't be out in those conditions either. Once the hurricane actually passes, then the rescues can begin. That's what happened in NO. That's the tragedy that people don't comprehend. On such a scale as NO, you can't help everyone all at once. It's simply not possible.
You can't help everyone, but you should help those that you can. It a disgrace when Canadian rescuers beat American rescue teams to NO. It a shame when a group of college kids can drive a two-wheel drive Hyundai to NO and evacuate 7 people while the FEDS sit on their hands.
Dan, how are you going to get that water to the people? You have no idea of the logistics nightmare that Katrina caused. You think just because you have the resources that it automatically means they can be distributed instantly.
Well, can't you turn that around and use that on the arguement the article makes about the busses?
HA
That entire night before Katrina struck, people were here on spurstalk, chatting all night about what if's. Imagine what a smart, organized, team of leaders in FEMA could have accomplished.
You can't make excuses for FEMA--It's ing FEMA, man..theyre supposed to save our asses when like this happens (its FEMA!)
Your telling me that the U.S. military has no way to move this water onto shore? Please, they could have set up distribution centers for military convoys to pass out this water. FEMA could have just as easily confiscated all the bottled water in the region and had the military airdrop this water at the Superdome and the Convention Center.Dan, how are you going to get that water to the people? You have no idea of the logistics nightmare that Katrina caused. You think just because you have the resources that it automatically means they can be distributed instantly.
Never satisfied, but to expect more is delusion. Then again, some of you would like to see even more of the national economy fall under the grip of the feds.
Absolutely.
Yeah, it's a disgrace when the fed's can't come in and rescue everyone, all at the same time and not leave a single person stranded anywhere. They should have also gotten everyone who had died in the storm, the stranded pets. The feds should have evac'd all the water back to the ocean as well.
The buses were already IN the city before the hurricane hit. They were actually THERE. The local government had control enough of them to release their use immediatly. No one was holding them from using them. They simply weren't used.
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