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To a crazy person, everyone else is insane. Do you actually believe in this garbage? Or is this just some fun discussion to have during commercials?
Y'all should hear the "BlondeStar" spoofs they have out...
To a crazy person, everyone else is insane. Do you actually believe in this garbage? Or is this just some fun discussion to have during commercials?
If my name was Republican Fan Faded you'd probably click on the ing link
oh wait, UserUser666 is of the superior line of beings that automatically can tell when something is false without reading into it?
I am listening. That's why I responded the way I did. Your wild accusations that Onstar, a private company that is only provided to PAYING CUSTOMERS, is going to turn into some sort of government tool to track you when your smoking weed in your parents basement is ridiculous.
How about stepping away from that keyboard for a second. You know the one that has had it's IP logged at can track you down to your exact location? Oops!
Well the ing entire american economy is based off of private companies, oh incredibly smart infallible useruser. (oh wait, there are no paying customers with regards to the economy)
The electronic voting machines used throughout the country are based on private companies (oh wait, this isn't a government tool)
sounds like the only government tool is you
oh wait, i forgot the federal reserve was actually FEDERAL
Can the government track automobiles equiped with Onstar even if the owner is not a subscriber?
If not, it doesn't seem like it would be a very effective government tracking device, unless you assume that terrorists are subscribing.
If the device is on the car, I wouldn't be too confident.
And yeah, good point, but thats why they might be advertising it with commericals full of kids now.
Do you think they're hoping those kids will appeal to suspected terrorists and coerce them to subscribe to OnStar?
no
to parents, the commercial is targetting parents not kids, its using kids to target parents
I believe the device works regardless if you subscribe or not.
You certainly shouldn't be able to just turn it off, or a thief would.
You have no idea what you are talking about. If you don't want Onstar, youm don't get Onstar. If you don't pay to keep the service, you don't have Onstar. Even if your vehicle was equiped with it, you don't have it unless you pay for it. No one is forcing you to drive a Chevy Tahoe with Onstar. You don't have to drive around at all. But uh oh, the government is sure to follow your foot steps! OMG! They're after me!!!
I know, but why do you think the government would be targeting wealthy parents if they were hoping to coerce terrorists/drug dealers to subscribe?
You can disable it. Physically that is.
oh yeah and another thing
i never said Onstar* would directly turn into a government tool....I said its a baby step on the road to something that could become a massive government tracking device for all people.
A requirement to make it from step A to step B would be getting people to think like you.
IP logs suck, but without the internet people would have less opportunity to spread information before we get to point B.
Right, but if I have a car that was factory equiped with Onstar, but I no longer subscribe, my stolen car would not be tracked right?
jesus
im not saying onstar* is immediately on the verge of becoming a government aid in tracking people
its all about getting people used to this, in small doses
you cant jump right into massive tracking without getting the public used to like this
onstar* is a step
you can be like the Head of Mensa, Useruser666 and automatically be able to detect false and true information without giving it more than 10 minutes thought, or you can look up more stuff on the INTERNET if you choose to
i think it is time to buy some ALCOA stock with you tin foilers!
It could be, but at this point it's not and it seems to serve a valuable purpose to those who choose to subscribe to it. So at this point, what's the big deal?i never said Onstar* would directly turn into a government tool....I said its a baby step on the road to something that could become a massive government tracking device for all people.
I think you should wait until there are more substantial rumblings of a mandatory government tracking device... Because you may be right on. It's just not a credible concern right now.
What do you want then? If other people want the Onstar serveice, then what's it to you? Should Onstar be banned because somewhere in the distant future the government MIGHT use it against it's people? If you don't want it, then don't buy it. IF the governemnt was trying to pass legislation to make Onstar mandatory in every vehicle, then yes I'd be worried. But they're not, so I'm not. Everytime you buy booze you could be forced to show ID, is that a tracking scheme by our government? I believe you are going way overboard on this.
I bet the LA local governments said it wasn't a credible concern to plan for a massive scale disaster too.
Cuz if this works, and people are dummed down enough to accept more and more intervention in their privacy, then what we will end up with is another massive scale disaster that we 'just didnt see coming'.
Bingo Spurm!
ROFL, nothing i love more than a dramatic OnStar* commercial featuring cute little kids
100% right
thats wrong
the info goes through space, its a government tool
I wish someone would start a thread, with some of the more definitive signs of a government becoming a police state.
People would not take it seriously if i made it.
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