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There is one way to solve your perceived abuse by Holt Cat. Stop going to the games. If you can convince enough like minded people to not buy Spurs tickets Holt will be force to sell or move the team and end this tyranny and your agony.
Doesn't matter.
Anyways, the Spurs are also subsidized within the league. Some of you act as though the Spurs would have to cough up the extra cash for however slightly they went over the lux tax threshold for the 2005-06 season to retain Brown. However, all that would have meant was that they wouldn't have gotten as big of a lux tax 'rebate'. Yes, there's no difference from an financial POV, but people need to realize that the Spurs do not pay the full cost of their payroll. Other teams pay a significant part. Also, the Spurs will not lose their entire share of the lux tax distributions should they go over the threshold. That, plus the sweetheart arena deal, should be more than enough to provide Holt Cat et al with an acceptable return even after retaining Brown. Plus, the deep playoff runs the Spurs have made over the last few seasons result in yet more revenues coming in as well as broader national and international exposure, which means even more revenue growth.
Lest we forget that the value of the Spurs continues to increase as they remain compe ive and win championships, as well as broaden their appeal internationally. The real value in pro sports teams tends to come on the exit rather than in periodic cash flow. And for whatever reason, the value of pro sports teams seems less tied to periodic stable and growing cash flows than in other industries.
So, boo hoo that Holt Cat might have to s out a few crumbs to keep a talented young player at a cheap price.
I do not understand why so many of you are reluctant to accept what is rather obvious. Maybe you don't want to admit that someone is taking advantage of you and your family.
Last edited by Marcus Bryant; 09-13-2005 at 02:22 PM.
There is one way to solve your perceived abuse by Holt Cat. Stop going to the games. If you can convince enough like minded people to not buy Spurs tickets Holt will be force to sell or move the team and end this tyranny and your agony.
Soon enough, the cheapness of the ownership group will hurt the Spurs on the court so that the average fan understands what has happened. The most surefire way will be when the Spurs don't emerge from a postseason as the champs.
If the Spurs stop winning, then they will suffer somewhat from a loss in the revenue growth that comes from attracting bandwagon fans worldwide, as well as from all of the postseason revenue that accompanies a le run. Perhaps that will be enough to get Holt Cat's attention.
The Spurs will falter if and when Duncan gets older, less effective and to a lesser extent Ginobili does and if the Spurs haven't been able to replace them with superstar/star level players or at least very promising players fans can build their hopes around becoming franchise level players. It has absolutely zero to do with retaining 8th to 12th men off the bench like Devin.
You need a supporting cast just as much as you need great players. Brown would've been ahead of Barry in the rotation last postseason. That would have made him at worst the 8th man on the team. It's not that hard to see Brown as a regular member of the rotation long term.
Maybe the Spurs will be able to find some youth on the perimeter to replenish it over the course of the next few seasons. After all, that's always been easy for the Spurs to do.
Anyways, the Spurs just lost talent for nothing in return. That alone is unacceptable, lux tax, limited minutes, stacked roster or whatever.
Factor in the age and short contracts of the swingman rotation, the fact that the Spurs only have 4 swingmen currently, and that the Spurs will be capped out for some time going forward and 1 year at $2.5 million looks like nothing.
Which is what it is in the NBA. I can't believe how many of you are so quick to defend such an obviously horrid basketball decision by the team.
Nice pic, but this isn't a whottt v ChumpDumper 200+ post ramble.
Correct, we had occasion to say something different after 100 posts.
You two actually say something in your scrums?
I did not know that.
You two actually say something in your scrums?
You are correct, sir!
Whoa...that's weird, wild, whacky stuff.
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Yes, it never really happened.
Thank you. At least somebody gets it.
The Spurs didn't lose him for nothing. They got Finley and made it very apparent to Devin that he would not be retained if Finley was signed. The Spurs in essence would have been paying him $5.0 for that year with the lux tax penalty and you fail to mention Devin's back problems that he may never fully recover from. Notice he wasn't commanding a whole lot of attention on the open market. Why would you pay $5.0M for your 5th swingman whose back may never recover when that position is the easiest position to find good role players for cheap prices.
So next summer when Finley walks, NVE retires and a 57 year old Brent Barry is the Spurs' only reserve swing, will cheering for the $ Holt Cat saved be that fulfilling?
And yes, they lost him for nothing. They could have had him and Finley.
You're both chuckleheads.
how the does marcus have a post count like that?
He's a pumpkin eater.
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