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    He did alright for a youngin, but dodged the rebuttal like neo in the matrix.


    Bin Laden has always been a nobody. Found him in a cave barely alive.
    like you said the healthcare thing will be his biggest sell, but so far it's been devastating. The constant lack of customer service in dealing with the broken system topped off by a yearly deadline, meaning you miss your date, you don't get it for a year is ridiculous. Badly thought out and implemented. Processed all online, geared towards the group of people least likely to have those capabailities and experinxe to handle it.

    See this is my point..the white man (Bush) can up so bad cause the economy to collapse and you ers dont bat an eye..instead you send us the ing dumbass tea party...but a black man (Obama) can try his best to give us healthcare and we focus on all the little penny anny with regards to logistics...go figure

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    There is close to a million student loans in default. The Walmart and fast food situation is already a reality. Uber cab driving has become the most popular way to supplement an income. Get this... people are coming out of college and have to go back and live with mom and dad. Like fools... they pursue a masters degree and take on more debt... only to get a job making 40k. both parties, Kool. It has to fail!!! The way our gov't is being run is a joke.
    You are 100% right about student loans. I have read that the next big bubble in our economy will be that! There are billions in unpaid
    loans floating around now....

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    What part did Cheney have in making policy for the economy?
    Face palm

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    Do you answer all questions like that......

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    There is close to a million student loans in default. The Walmart and fast food situation is already a reality. Uber cab driving has become the most popular way to supplement an income. Get this... people are coming out of college and have to go back and live with mom and dad. Like fools... they pursue a masters degree and take on more debt... only to get a job making 40k. both parties, Kool. It has to fail!!! The way our gov't is being run is a joke.

    What's the answer bro..i mean that sincerely? I think democrats are more moral than Republicans....Reps will run this country into the ground with all if their fake patriotism while being beholden like no other to big business

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    Do you answer all questions like that......

    Only questions from re s

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    See this is my point..the white man (Bush) can up so bad cause the economy to collapse and you ers dont bat an eye..instead you send us the ing dumbass tea party...but a black man (Obama) can try his best to give us healthcare and we focus on all the little penny anny with regards to logistics...go figure
    Look at you, sticking to the point. I'm proud of you.
    I disapprove of bush. Dude got himself and his friends rich being president. Corrupted lil guy. Led us to a couple illegal wars and no telling how many occupations. Bout as detrimental to a country as a leader gets.

    Obamacare was a huge thing. It was a failure and still is, and the reasons why are not little things. it does t function well with one of its biggest selling points. "Accessibility" the main driving point was it's biggest flaw. Over under how many years it lasts after he gets replaced? I got under 4, with the Iran and Israel situations taking precedence the first term for the new guy.

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    Look at you, sticking to the point. I'm proud of you.
    I disapprove of bush. Dude got himself and his friends rich being president. Corrupted lil guy. Led us to a couple illegal wars and no telling how many occupations. Bout as detrimental to a country as a leader gets.

    Obamacare was a huge thing. It was a failure and still is, and the reasons why are not little things. it does t function well with one of its biggest selling points. "Accessibility" the main driving point was it's biggest flaw. Over under how many years it lasts after he gets replaced? I got under 4, with the Iran and Israel situations taking precedence the first term for the new guy.

    Now prove your point....the SCOTUS just validated Obamacare....and it looks to be working just fine...even in it's infancy

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    That's your point to prove. Youre The one defending it. I've already described its shortcomings. Share this SCOTUS transcript. Seems interesting

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    That's your point to prove. Youre The one defending it. I've already described its shortcomings. Share this SCOTUS transcript. Seems interesting

    My point to prove? sure lets play this game tutrtle ...

    Over 12 million new people have health care...= working..

    Case closed (wink wink)

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    There goes neo again. suddenly the sCotus doesn't exist anymore.

    One day kid. You'll be able to hang with the big boys. Until then, you behave yourself.

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    don't worry Blake and Boutons will come to your rescue ....

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    He did alright for a youngin, but dodged the rebuttal like neo in the matrix.


    Bin Laden has always been a nobody. Found him in a cave barely alive.
    like you said the healthcare thing will be his biggest sell, but so far it's been devastating. The constant lack of customer service in dealing with the broken system topped off by a yearly deadline, meaning you miss your date, you don't get it for a year is ridiculous. Badly thought out and implemented. Processed all online, geared towards the group of people least likely to have those capabailities and experinxe to handle it.
    This I agree with I was doing work as independent contractor and tried to sign up for Obama Care. (pays more but doesnt include health benefits). I submitted before deadline but the site was crap. Poor servers. horrible customer service like you said and the I was the opposite of user friendly. thank God I have health benefits again .... I do think so far it has been a misstep and almost a failure but when I say it is what he will be judged on I mean if it lasts versus how it started. Even though he will be long gone before it's changed/repealed if Obama hasnt sold it enough to the american public so that not even Republicans will support it's revision/repeal then it will be a failure. what would have been the point of the rhetoric and expenditures if it cant stand without Obama propping it up?

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    This I agree with I was doing work as independent contractor and tried to sign up for Obama Care. (pays more but doesnt include health benefits). I submitted before deadline but the site was crap. Poor servers. horrible customer service like you said and the I was the opposite of user friendly. thank God I have health benefits again .... I do think so far it has been a misstep and almost a failure but when I say it is what he will be judged on I mean if it lasts versus how it started. Even though he will be long gone before it's changed/repealed if Obama hasnt sold it enough to the american public so that not even Republicans will support it's revision/repeal then it will be a failure. what would have been the point of the rhetoric and expenditures if it cant stand without Obama propping it up?
    The crazy thing is the republican party was pushing the same healthcare system. Obama got elected so that's what it was called, but the republicans would have had the same system implemented.
    So far, like you said, it's been a hassle. Not to say it can't be fixed, but man has it been a pretty short sighted project so far.
    As of now, since its just political warfare due to elections coming up, they'll most likely blast it and use it as a barganing chip before they try to fix it. It's unfortunate. This country is so far behind on the healthcare system. Handful of other countired have converted to free health care already.
    In a country as rich as the U.S.A., it just doesn't make sense to not have free health care. The top 2% own the majority of the country. It's time to take some back and give it to the people working for it.

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    That doesn't even count state, county, and local debts. The real figures are a of a lot higher...

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    That doesn't even count state, county, and local debts. The real figures are a of a lot higher...
    Yeah the country is going down rofl there is no stopping it, hopefully the right people can take advantage of this great opportunity and seize power when it happens

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    Yeah the country is going down rofl there is no stopping it, hopefully the right people can take advantage of this great opportunity and seize power when it happens

    You fellas are a bunch of circle jerking morons....u have Absolutely NO clue what the you're talking bout

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    You fellas are a bunch of circle jerking morons....u have Absolutely NO clue what the you're talking bout
    Explain how the debt can go on indefinitely or if not then how we turn a 20 trillion deficit into a surplus in order to pay it back

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    Explain how the debt can go on indefinitely or if not then how we turn a 20 trillion deficit into a surplus in order to pay it back

    Lets start by lowering interest rates to stimulate the economy....generate tax revenu....... which ultimately reduces the debt. Low interest rates make it easy (for people and businesses) to borrow money in order to spend it on to stimulate the economy.....which creates jobs and tax revenues.


    Spending cuts mixed with Tax increases....that are balanced but that doesnt ravage the economy like the republicans want to do....this is what Obama tried to do before getting stone walled by Republican obstructionism and treason...



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    Explain how the debt can go on indefinitely or if not then how we turn a 20 trillion deficit into a surplus in order to pay it back
    Annex Canada and sell it to China, seems like a reasonable solution

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    Annex Canada and sell it to China, seems like a reasonable solution
    Or we can just default to the delight of the tea party clowns

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    Annex Canada and sell it to China, seems like a reasonable solution
    I don't think Canada is worth that much, Mitch

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    Lets start by lowering interest rates to stimulate the economy....generate tax revenu....... which ultimately reduces the debt. Low interest rates make it easy (for people and businesses) to borrow money in order to spend it on to stimulate the economy.....which creates jobs and tax revenues.


    Spending cuts mixed with Tax increases....that are balanced but that doesnt ravage the economy like the republicans want to do....this is what Obama tried to do before getting stone walled by Republican obstructionism and treason...


    Interest rates are already practically 0 for treasuries you stupid sack of the fed can't lower them any more than they already are and the president or congress doesn't control the fed so good luck with that

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    Lets start by lowering interest rates to stimulate the economy....generate tax revenu....... which ultimately reduces the debt. Low interest rates make it easy (for people and businesses) to borrow money in order to spend it on to stimulate the economy.....which creates jobs and tax revenues.


    Spending cuts mixed with Tax increases....that are balanced but that doesnt ravage the economy like the republicans want to do....this is what Obama tried to do before getting stone walled by Republican obstructionism and treason...


    Also increasing tax revenues alone can't bridge the massive gap that is our budget deficit, so what do you propose cutting?

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    You fellas are a bunch of circle jerking morons....u have Absolutely NO clue what the you're talking bout
    we are so lucky to have you around as the voice of reason.

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