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    There are many variables.

    Injuries, match ups, roster..etc.

    You only see these type of discussions here. Back to backs dont mean a thing in any other sport. It still counts as one.

    What are the benefits of winning a championship back to back other than saying you have 2 championships?

    Back to your question though..

    Kobe was always carried by his big men and amazing role players. The squad that the Lakers had from 2000-2003 was insanely good.

    You lakerfans act like it was all Kobe and you couldn't be more wrong.

    I doubt that Kobe milks 1 championship with the roster Duncan has had in his entire career let alone 5.

    Had Duncan had caliber players like Shaq, Pau, and top notch role players like Fox, Shaw and prime Horry and Harper, it'd be a wrap right quick.
    That is the key right there,,,Kobrick had a guy that is considered top 10 of All Time in Shaq carry him for 3 les and he also had the best NBA coach of All Time. Duncan never had a teammate that would rank top 25 of All Time,,muchless Top 10. And I better not see Spurs homers try and tell me Robinson was top 25,,,

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    There are many variables.

    Injuries, match ups, roster..etc.

    You only see these type of discussions here. Back to backs dont mean a thing in any other sport. It still counts as one.

    What are the benefits of winning a championship back to back other than saying you have 2 championships?

    Back to your question though..

    Kobe was always carried by his big men and amazing role players. The squad that the Lakers had from 2000-2003 was insanely good.

    You lakerfans act like it was all Kobe and you couldn't be more wrong.

    I doubt that Kobe milks 1 championship with the roster Duncan has had in his entire career let alone 5.

    Had Duncan had caliber players like Shaq, Pau, and top notch role players like Fox, Shaw and prime Horry and Harper, it'd be a wrap right quick.

    Lol. At least you tried...no matter how feeble an attempt...

    Spurs won les in 1999, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2014...

    Since the Spurs have always been loaded with 3 First Ballot Hall of Famers, (Duncan, Parker, Manu) and various 1st team Defensive Players we can throw out the fake Matchups and Roster excuse you're trying to use...with that bit of business taken care of can you explain what Significant injuries the Spurs experienced other than benefiting from Key players from other teams being out every year...so basically in 2000, 2004, 2006, 2008, and this past season....tell me what were the Spurs players significant injuries that caused them not to repeat....injuries like Kobe achilles. Durant out, Westbrook out, Ibaka out, Bosh out, Kyrie out, Love out, KG out, Nash out, etc..

    Pau is not 1st ballot HOF...Manu and Parker are...so again you've got more splanin to do... Tammy is Alpha..Kobe is beta...how does this happen if Tammy is indeed Alpha...are you now making the case that Pau >Tammy or that Shaq >Tammy....since they repeated with Beta Kobe?

    I've twisted you in a knot...untwist yourself

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    That is the key right there,,,Kobrick had a guy that is considered top 10 of All Time in Shaq carry him for 3 les and he also had the best NBA coach of All Time. Duncan never had a teammate that would rank top 25 of All Time,,muchless Top 10. And I better not see Spurs homers try and tell me Robinson was top 25,,,

    Since Kobe is not top 20 let alone top 10 what does it matter? : D ....I will make it easy for you and do you one better...lets throw out the ShaKobe les....he still goes back to back...without the Shaq contribution....and if you say its because of Pau who was 0-16 in the play-offs before he came to Kobe then we seriously have to consider Pau > Duncan....and if you use the ring arguement to say Duncan > Pau then we hsve to use the ring arguement to say Kobe >Pau....and if you want to say Kobe had Shaq then I say Tammy had Robinson, Manu. Parker....on top of Kobe 2. Shaq 1 post Shakobe era....

    Again why hasnt the,Alpha successfully defended his le....

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    Since Kobe is not top 20 let alone top 10 what does it matter? : D ....I will make it easy for you and do you one better...lets throw out the ShaKobe les....he still goes back to back...without the Shaq contribution....and if you say its because of Pau who was 0-16 in the play-offs before he came to Kobe then we seriously have to consider Pau > Duncan....and if you use the ring arguement to say Duncan > Pau then we hsve to use the ring arguement to say Kobe >Pau....and if you want to say Kobe had Shaq then I say Tammy had Robinson, Manu. Parker....on top of Kobe 2. Shaq 1 post Shakobe era....

    Again why hasnt the,Alpha successfully defended his le....
    Its all semantics,,,I can regurgitate how many times Kobrick has missed the playoffs,,,you counter with Duncan never repeating,and around and around we go,,,before Kobrick lakers only missed the playoffs two or three times in their history,,,with Kobrick as the man,,,they have missed it 3 times and about to make it 4 with 3 in a row(Threepeat),,,how is that alpha?,,,and only pussies and assholes bring up injuries,,,,

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    Its all semantics,,,I can regurgitate how many times Kobrick has missed the playoffs,,,you counter with Duncan never repeating,and around and around we go,,,before Kobrick lakers only missed the playoffs two or three times in their history,,,with Kobrick as the man,,,they have missed it 3 times and about to make it 4 with 3 in a row(Threepeat),,,how is that alpha?,,,and only pussies and assholes bring up injuries,,,,

    you brought up injuries first sweetie to explain why the Spurs never repeated..Kobe got to 5 les before Duncan while missing the playoffs...what does that say about Kobe's dominance as a player over Duncan...it tells be no matter the reason Kobe can miss the playoffs and still get to 5 first...its a scathing indictment on Duncan tbh....

    So lets not make excuses for Kobe missing playoffs forget his injuries....the real question now remains why didnt the Alpha Duncan repeat....how many ways are you gonna try to twist this thing

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    Kobe always defended his le...Duncan has always laid a goose egg....

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    Kobe always defended his le...Duncan has always laid a goose egg....


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    you brought up injuries first sweetie to explain why the Spurs never repeated..Kobe got to 5 les before Duncan while missing the playoffs...what does that say about Kobe's dominance as a player over Duncan...it tells be no matter the reason Kobe can miss the playoffs and still get to 5 first...its a scathing indictment on Duncan tbh....

    So lets not make excuses for Kobe missing playoffs forget his injuries....the real question now remains why didnt the Alpha Duncan repeat....how many ways are you gonna try to twist this thing
    When did I bring up injuries as an excuse?,,,,LMAO

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    Kobe always defended his le...Duncan has always laid a goose egg....
    Duncan never three peated in the lottery,,,,this is boring,,,,,

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    Kobe went back to back? I could have sworn it was the Lakers and not a player in which you said Kobe went back to back.. He had a little help with Gasol too and Artest in that 2nd I would say when he was going 6-24 and choking it away.

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    Kobe went back to back? I could have sworn it was the Lakers and not a player in which you said Kobe went back to back.. He had a little help with Gasol too and Artest in that 2nd I would say when he was going 6-24 and choking it away.

    Sure..but why hasnt Timofey Backdoor Theodoor Duncan successfully defended his le afterall..he's only the greatest PF in. History and a top 5 player according to Spurfsn

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    Lol. At least you tried...no matter how feeble an attempt...

    Spurs won les in 1999, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2014...

    Since the Spurs have always been loaded with 3 First Ballot Hall of Famers, (Duncan, Parker, Manu) and various 1st team Defensive Players we can throw out the fake Matchups and Roster excuse you're trying to use...with that bit of business taken care of can you explain what Significant injuries the Spurs experienced other than benefiting from Key players from other teams being out every year...so basically in 2000, 2004, 2006, 2008, and this past season....tell me what were the Spurs players significant injuries that caused them not to repeat....injuries like Kobe achilles. Durant out, Westbrook out, Ibaka out, Bosh out, Kyrie out, Love out, KG out, Nash out, etc..

    Pau is not 1st ballot HOF...Manu and Parker are...so again you've got more splanin to do... Tammy is Alpha..Kobe is beta...how does this happen if Tammy is indeed Alpha...are you now making the case that Pau >Tammy or that Shaq >Tammy....since they repeated with Beta Kobe?

    I've twisted you in a knot...untwist yourself
    Where are you getting this from?

    The only HoFer in that bunch is Duncan.

    I have always liked Manu and I hope he gets in it one day but I doubt it. There are simply others more deserving of it for the time being. He has had key moments but he's never being THE MAN.

    Dont even make me talk about Tony Parker as a HoFER.

    As for the injuries, I cant think of many but back in 2000, Duncan had to sit out all of the playoffs games for the season. Really hindering their chances. Who knows what would have happened.

    How do you explain Kobe missing the playoffs immediately after Shaq left....and getting in right when they got Pau? That ain't no coincidence. They had huge impact on the team in their own way.

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    Duncan never three peated in the lottery,,,,this is boring,,,,,
    Its. Ok bro..I know its hard to accept when faced with the truth....its hard looking in that mirror and confessing I get...I've said a few hail mary's in my life time....but before you go to a confessional booth...you have to confess to your self...thats where it stsrts....

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    Koolaid_Man

    I answered your question. Now answer me this:

    When are you guys going to be relevant again? 3 years? 4 years?

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    Would never trade the Lakers back to back championships for the Spurs 5. The Lakers got back to back but after every time they got dethroned the team was irrelevant for long periods of time. The spurs even during their down years were still an above average. I'll take having an above average team in the downs years versus having a ty bottom feeder that the Lakers have at this moment of time.

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    Where are you getting this from?

    The only HoFer in that bunch is Duncan.

    I have always liked Manu and I hope he gets in it one day but I doubt it. There are simply others more deserving of it for the time being. He has had key moments but he's never being THE MAN.

    Dont even make me talk about Tony Parker as a HoFER.

    As for the injuries, I cant think of many but back in 2000, Duncan had to sit out all of the playoffs games for the season. Really hindering their chances. Who knows what would have happened.

    How do you explain Kobe missing the playoffs immediately after Shaq left....and getting in right when they got Pau? That ain't no coincidence. They had huge impact on the team in their own way.

    Ohh I get it now....you're a Johnny-me-lately fan I see....completely void of any real bball knowledge...let me guess your fandom started in 2013....Spur fan is so butthurt about Kobes legend till they're now denigrating and ting on the pivotal contributions of Manu and Tony...its shameful conduct tbh....Tim Duncan has 1 ring without HOFers and Allstars Manu and Parker....and if not for them he'd be stuck at his 1 asterisk ring that he won with Robinson back in 99 tbh...

    The ShaKobe Lakers were centered on a the big man...when he left we were in a rebuilding mode.up up and down the team...pretty simple Concept no Rocket science there....

    Again though you're giving me everything except an answer to my question..if Tammy is Alpha why in the didnt he repeat....

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    . When?

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    2019? 2020?

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    Ohh I get it now....you're a Johnny-me-lately fan I see....completely void of any real bball knowledge...let me guess your fandom started in 2013....Spur fan is so butthurt about Kobes legend till they're now denigrating and ting on the pivotal contributions of Manu and Tony...its shameful conduct tbh....Tim Duncan has 1 ring without HOFers and Allstars Manu and Parker....and if not for them he'd be stuck at his 1 asterisk ring that he won with Robinson back in 99 tbh...

    The ShaKobe Lakers were centered on a the big man...when he left we were in a rebuilding mode.up up and down the team...pretty simple Concept no Rocket science there....

    Again though you're giving me everything except an answer to my question..if Tammy is Alpha why in the didnt he repeat....
    This is getting sad. Stop embarrassing yourself man.

    If you believe Kobe is better than he's better. That's just 1 opinion against the many.

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    I will stop..i see its getting to you...dont worry bro..SA even though its a 2nd rate city with 2nd rate non repeatable les they still won them... lol

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    This is getting sad. Stop embarrassing yourself man.

    If you believe Kobe is better than he's better. That's just 1 opinion against the many.

    I asked a simple question...forget Kobe...why hasnt Duncan repeated...yall got your panties in such a twist

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    If Tim would have repeated once (I know...he didn't) Kool would just say, "Well Kobe 3-peated...that means he's better."

    Anything to deflect from the absolute ing dumpster fire known as the present day Lakers.

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    I will stop..i see its getting to you...dont worry bro..SA even though its a 2nd rate city with 2nd rate non repeatable les they still won them... lol
    You're just not the same when the Lakers are irrelevant. All bark...no bite.

    Last time we met in the playoffs went something like this:


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    Just wondering since its so rare....
    Lakers last team to go back to back with garbage lottery picks.

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    Obvious troll failure.

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