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Wimp!she planned to have the baby by Caesarean section to avoid the pain of a natural birth.
Let me guess, she Isn't going to cir size the baby because she doesn't want want him to feel the pain either...
I was born by Caesarian section...but not so you'd notice. It's just that when
I leave a house, I go out through the window.
Wimp!she planned to have the baby by Caesarean section to avoid the pain of a natural birth.
Let me guess, she Isn't going to cir size the baby because she doesn't want want him to feel the pain either...
This thread means nothing without pictures of her giving birth.
I will likely do the same thingshe planned to have the baby by Caesarean section to avoid the pain of a natural birth.
they don't have epidurals in california?she planned to have the baby by Caesarean section to avoid the pain of a natural birth
Pushhhhhhhhh, oh wait, let me just cut you open and get the baby...
They will show it during the season premiere of her reality show.This thread means nothing without pictures of her giving birth.
why?? my sister gave natural birth, but the doctor wanted her to feel the pain so she would think about getting pregnant again.I will likely do the same thing
epidurals, jen said they hurt like .
good idea, since she is 13
yup smart doctor
? who cares britney is a . some of her songs were good though
I loved my epidural... i was worshiping the anesthesiologist...i even got his signature !
this time I'm bringing a littel present for him..... show my appreciation.
I loved my epidural
this time I'm bringing a littel present for him..... show my appreciation.
I rank epidurals right up there with air conditioning.
Me, too ...
Why someone would want to have a C Section when it's not necessary I have no idea. You scar, you're bed-ridden for days instead of being able to get up and move around as soon as the epidural wears off....and my friend's incision kept getting infected and she was miserable for at least a month.
Unless your baby is like 20lbs or breech, I'd NOT recommend one...but that's my opinion. With an epidural it may only be bad for a few minutes...then it's over. I was having off-the-monitor contractions with Caitlin and I didn't feel a DAMN thing...I never felt her come out, either.
C-Section = surgery ... and I don't know any surgery that doesn't involve pain, too.
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"C Section when it's not necessary"
more $$$ for the doctor peforming C-section surgery vs natural
a very bloody operation, meaning it can require replacement blood, depleting blood supplies.
longer hospital stay, more post-op care = more $$ for the hospital
shorter labor = less time in delivery room, saving the hospital $$
c-section means no/lessened danger of damaged baby through a difficult canal birth, meaning less exposure of doctor and hospital to lawsuits.
there's quite a bit of anti-c-section stuff around:
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/ne...04-405609.html
So in fact, the huge increase in c-sections, now over 25% of US births, is all about $$$ (spending yours, and saving theirs).
I can't find the info now, but US is by far, the Caesarean World Champions in a sport that all nations play.
and while we are "down there" at baby-outing time:
Routine Childbirth Procedure Deemed Unnecessary
By Rob Stein
One of the most common surgical procedures performed in the United States -- an incision many pregnant women receive to make childbirth less damaging -- has no benefits and actually causes more complications, according to the most comprehensive analysis to evaluate the practice.
Contradicting the long-accepted rationale for the operation, called an episiotomy, the analysis found that it increases the risk of tissue tears during delivery, leading to more pain, more s ches and a longer recovery after childbirth. In addition, it increases the risk of sexual difficulties later and does not reduce the risk of incontinence, the federally sponsored study found.
As a result, the researchers concluded, routine use of the procedure undergone by more than 1 million U.S. women each year should be discontinued, and the incision should only be considered to speed delivery when the health of the baby is at risk.
"The evidence is clear: Routine use of episiotomy is not supported by research and should stop," said Katherine E. Hartman, director of the Center for Women's Health Research at the University of North Carolina in Chapel Hill, who led the analysis published in tomorrow's issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association. "Women need to know this information so they can talk with their care providers before they are in labor."
Other experts agreed, saying the procedure is example of a broader problem in medicine: Many practices that became common before their effectiveness was tested become ingrained by tradition and continue to be practiced well after their usefulness has been questioned by research.
"Routine episiotomy clearly is not necessary," said Laura Riley, director of labor and delivery at the Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston who chairs the obstetrics practice committee for the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists. "This is a message that's been out there that's clearly taken a long time to get universally accepted and universally implemented."
The new analysis was conducted for the Agency for Health Care Research and Quality, a federal agency that conducts influential evaluations of medical procedures, at request of the College amid mounting frustration that the procedure was still being conducted routinely despite strong evidence questioning its usefulness, Hartman said.
"There was sense that without attention being focused on this we might be stuck with these very high rates for a very long time," she said.
An episiotomy is an incision that doctors make before childbirth in the perineum -- the skin between the opening of the vagina and anus. The idea is that the incision will make delivery easier and that a deliberate surgical incision will heal more quickly and with fewer complications than tears that occur spontaneously, minimizing the risk of sexual problems and other complications, such as incontinence. Because the procedure has been in widespread use since the 1930s, it has only been subject to careful evaluation fairly recently.
The number of episiotomies began to decrease in the United States in 1980s when studies started raising questions about its value. But the procedure is still estimated to be performed in about one-third of all vaginal births -- more than 1 million of the roughly 4.2 million vaginal births that occur each year, making it more common than hysterectomies and Caesarean section deliveries. The rate varies widely around the country, but overall about 70 percent to 80 percent of first-time mothers undergo episiotomies.
For the study, Hartman and colleagues scoured the medical literature for all studies on the subject between 1950 and 2004, finding 986. The researchers then identified 45 studies that provided the best data, including 26 that provided the most useful information on benefits and risks, and pooled that information for the new analysis.
Based on that data, the researchers found that women who had not undergone the procedures were no more likely to experience spontaneous tears during childbirth than those who had. In fact, those who underwent the procedure appeared somewhat more prone to tears, the researchers found.
"If you have a piece of fabric, it doesn't tear well until you get it started. The episiotomy can have that effect of actually being the starting place for a tear," Hartman said.
As a result, women who have had episiotomies tend to need more s ches and experience more pain after childbirth, the researchers found. Women who underwent episiotomies had a 26 percent higher risk of requiring sutures.
Moreover, women who had episiotomies were no less likely to experience urinary or fecal incontinence in the three months to five years after delivery, the study found. In fact, women with episiotomies were twice as likely to suffer fecal incontinence in first three months.
Those with episiotomies were also 53 percent more likely to suffer pain during intercourse three months after delivery.
"There's a lot of unnecessary suffering occurring to women because of the use of episiotomies," said Carol Sakala of the Maternity Center Association, a private, non-profit group based on New York. "It's really tragic."
Sakala noted that the rate of Caesarean section deliveries has been increasing in the United States, in part because of women's fears of complications from vaginal deliveries. Unnecessary episiotomies may be key contributing factor to those complications, she said.
"We need to send a very clear message to women and their providers," Sakala said. "The evidence clearly says that performing routine episiotomies offers none of the benefits that that been presumed in the past and in many cases offer severe harm."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...r=emailarticle
Me too.
I will likely do the same thing
That's why you get an epidural.
There's a lot more after-pain and inconvenience involved with a C-Section than a natural birth...I don't know whoever said that it was better.
Except those that have had 10lb+ babies.
Maybe It wasn't so much about the pain she was going to feel but about the fact that her cooshie might be ruined...There's a lot more after-pain and inconvenience involved with a C-Section than a natural birth...I don't know whoever said that it was better.
Except those that have had 10lb+ babies.
I think it made mine better, from the Kegel's they teach you in birthing classes.
She could always ask the doctor to insert another s ch or two....or ten.
Note to self: Avoid Jim in the event I go through with my plan to become King of Scotland.I was born by Caesarian section...but not so you'd notice. It's just that when
I leave a house, I go out through the window.
I will likely do the same thing
I'm with you on that one. I don't know if I'm strong enough to handle natural birth. Mothers have got to be the strongest people on the planet. Not only do they manage to carry around 7-8 extra pounds for 9 months in their stomachs, but they also manage to go through labor, sometimes for hours.
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