israel wins. obamas plan ia going to fail hard

[hater]

Still looking for reasons as to why Iran shouldn't be trusted. Besides the usual 'some Iranian guy said years ago that he wants to wipe out Israel'

Any other reasons???

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Still looking for reasons as to why Iran shouldn't be trusted. Besides the usual 'some Iranian guy said years ago that he wants to wipe out Israel'

Any other reasons???

Reductio ad absurdum and begging the question. I guess in your mind if people cannot answer your question that makes you right?

Their previous leader did indeed say those things and his hand picked successor still sermonizes the evil of our culture and government. Just because they no longer use the great devil rhetoric does not mean that the state has changed their position. The ayatollah's and their families still run the country regionally and they hate us. They were the driving force behind the crackdowns on the Green Revolution blaming us and continue to regionally use political strongarm tactics on any opposition. People still remember the late 70s.

Don't be like the US mouthbreathers that want to make it all about Obama.

[hater]

No I was serious about my question and still am.

Sermonizing about evil America is also not a good reason. We have been punishing them badly economically and politically for the last 50 years. What are their leaders supposed to say? America is great?

So I post my question unanswered. What are the other or is there valid reasons to not trust Iran?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No I was serious about my question and still am.

Sermonizing about evil America is also not a good reason. We have been punishing them badly economically and politically for the last 50 years. What are their leaders supposed to say? America is great?

So I post my question unanswered. What are the other or is there valid reasons to not trust Iran?

So they have reason to not trust us and a level of mutual distrust exists. Pointing out how they might feel we did them wrong does not help your case.

As for the deal the more I get specifics about the access to nuclear sites and the procedure for sites anywhere else in the country, I am fine with it. Trust seems besides the point.

[hater]

So no other reasons? The way Iran is talked about. You'd think they had done us wrong somehow

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So no other reasons? The way Iran is talked about. You'd think they had done us wrong somehow

us

The takeover of the US embassy and the hostage crisis was 35 years ago. It's not so long ago that you can just disregard it. Hamas, Hezbollah, Taliban, and other Shia groups they use as proxies and allies also cannot be ignored.

The US attacked Iraq who was Iran's enemy and the Taliban who was their ally. Outside of that what has the US done to Iran?

[boutons_deux]

"The takeover of the US embassy and the hostage crisis was 35 years ago"

the CIA overthrowing democratically elected Mossadegh was 62 years ago. US/UK BigOil installed the Shah, leading to the 1979 Iranian revolution and the takeover of Iran by Muslim extremist.

iow, America is the biggest threat to world peace, has been since 1945. "Why Do They Hate Us?" asks the naive, childish, duped Americans.

[hater]

Boutons pretty much nailed it.

Still waiting for legit reasons....

[Splits]

God you are one stupid mother er in this forum. Do you know how to count?