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Buck Harvey:
If, if, if, if Devin Brown turns out to be better than Michael Finley this year, then the Spurs will be sorry. My basis for this was that Devin outplayed Finley for 2 minutes in one game last season.
Wish him well and he will get more PT in Utah. I would like to have kept him but this will be good for the kid.
Buck Harvey:
If, if, if, if Devin Brown turns out to be better than Michael Finley this year, then the Spurs will be sorry. My basis for this was that Devin outplayed Finley for 2 minutes in one game last season.
the kid is a talent, of that there is no doubt, the thing that surprised me the most from watching him the last 2 years is how incredibly strong he is, Devin has the ability to punish defenders when he drives on them, he reminds me of Vinnie Johnson with his strong drives to the basket. Not the shooting, but his physical presense.
I read a couple of time last year, where Bruce would take him aside and talk to him about his work ethic. In fact in an interview on one of the Sunday night sports shows, Bowen said he was dissappointed in Devins at ude, so it's not something that was hush hush, although, I don't remember it being that bad of an issue.
I could pull out a game where Rasho had better numbers than Duncan, doesn't mean he's better.Finley played 45 minutes that night and finished with 15 points on 13 shots. Brown was far more efficient with his 15 minutes, ending with two rebounds and two assists to go with his nine points.
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Chapter One - Give your #5 wing player/IR guy a multi year, multi miliion dollar contract, even though he has disk problems.
It was kind of sad to see Devin go because he's a SA product. However, I sign Finley if I have the chance if I am the Spurs GM. Without a doubt. Finley is not going to play more than 20-25 minutes a game next season unless an injury takes place. The Spurs did what every other team wanted to do, which was sign Finley. The only teams mentioned when the whole "who will sign Finley" thing was going on were Miami, SA, Phoenix, and Minn. Why? Those were the only teams Finley invited. However, I guarantee you that every team that was in need of a wing player was calling Finley's agent. No doubt. Why? Because this guy can play. Period. Yes he is getting older, but the Spurs don't want him to be the go to guy every night. All he has to do is come off the bench and provide a solid 20+ minutes.
Even the most enthusiatic supporters for NVE and Finley can't deny that they are on the downside of their careers. Whether the stuffs left in former star players are more than those of an unproven(?) player remains to be seen.
This is a big reason why I think that Devin will excel in Utah. Unlike a headcase like Carlos Arroyo he's going to be able to handle a hard nosed coach like Sloan. If Boozer and AK-47 stay healthy they could take their division. Seattle lost some key guys in the offseason, Minnesota is still Minnesota, the Blazers have a lot of young potential but Nate's going to need a little time to make that happen. That just leaves the Nuggets. Should be an interesting battle for the Northwest championship.
That would be appropriate, if what the Spurs had to match was anything more than 1 season at $2.5 mil.
Then we can talk about how great it is to admire Holt Cat's profit margin while the Spurs struggle to find perimeter talent next summer.
Sure. But what if you could have kept Brown while adding Finley? With Finley under a 1 year deal along with NVE, keeping Brown around looks less like a luxury and more like a necessity.
it, soon enough those of you so willing to let (and in some select cases, cheer) Holt Cat force bad basketball decisions will see the light.
And if Devin's injury flares up and he shows that he's not a great talent. Then we can admire our healthy profit margin in the warm glow of an NBA Championship. Guess we'll see next year how it all plays out. I am looking forward to seeing what Brown does with some PT, Sloan seems like a good coach for him.
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I think the pain might be substantially lessened if we're celebrating a back-to-back le.
Which translates to $5.0 mil when you consider being over the lux tax threshold. Too much for your 5th wing that has a history of an incurabale back injury that will probably be on the IR for much of the season. Devin is from SA and loves it here. If he gets over his injury and excels in Utah for 2 years with the additional playing time, the Spurs will probably have another chance to bring him back one day. Let another team pay for this big what if.
Then the commitment is only one year and at least we know we have an ownership that is willing to make the effort to win more championships no matter what.
Of course, that is ignoring the issue that if the Spurs thought his back was that serious, with the Jazz showing significant interest the Spurs could have at least forced a trade to get something in return.
Let us hope.
Training camp hasn't even started and we already have this season's martyr.
Will Devin take up more bandwidth than Malik?
Only time will tell.
Don't trivialize this, you're more CBA savvy than this. You're talking about 5 million, not 2.5.That would be appropriate, if what the Spurs had to match was anything more than 1 season at $2.5 mil.
Yes, because we all know this team has no chance of winning a championship without a 5 PPG 12th man with a bad back.Then the commitment is only one year and at least we know we have an ownership that is willing to make the effort to win more championships no matter what.
Not too much if you are about doing whatever it takes to win a championship and in today's NBA, that price for a young guard isn't extravagant.
And you're looking at that in a vacuum. With so much of the Spurs' great perimeter talent not under contract past next season, keeping a solid role player like Brown around is less of a luxury and more of a necessity.
So great, the Spurs lose a talented player and they lose him for nothing. Not because the Spurs were asked to pay for a "big what if", but rather a 1 year contractDevin is from SA and loves it here. If he gets over his injury and excels in Utah for 2 years with the additional playing time, the Spurs will probably have another chance to bring him back one day. Let another team pay for this big what if.
Aren't you guys basketball fans?
Spin it however you want, but the Spurs passed on Devin because they didn't wan't to spend $2.5 million and reduce the check they get from the lux tax system.
The following are facts:
Van Exel has a 1 year deal
Finley has a 1 year deal
Next season Barry will be 35 (correct me if I'm wrong here - I'm going by memory)
Devin's deal was 1 year, $2.5 million with a team option for a second year, not a multi-year high dollar contract, as some here are implying.
The Spurs did not make their decision based on "what was best for Devin's development".
Next summer, your swing rotation could be Manu, and a pair of players in their mid thirties.
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Marcus isn't advocating signing Devin because it would dramatically help the team this year. It's next year that has him (legitamately) concerned. They should have viewed this years deal as a $2.5 million insurance policy for next summer, because it is unlikely that they're going to find anybody else that brings what Devin does on both ends of the court in that price range.
So what if his back is bad? The Spurs ate more salary when the dumped Ron Mercer. For the length and amount of the contract, it was a risk worth taking.
The Spurs should have kept him.
The contract was for $2.5 mil. My statement is not incorrect. Assigning that extra lux tax to Brown exclusively, when you have dead weight like Radoslav on the roster, is a tad bit unfair and misleading.
What happens when Finley's knee acts up? What happens when NVE's does too? If we are going to start bringing up old injuries then those are a couple of worrisome ones right there. Why not have some more depth? You guys like to point out Brown's injury problems but ignore some other rather significant ones in the rotation.Yes, because we all know this team has no chance of winning a championship without a 5 PPG 12th man with a bad back.
And again, the Spurs lost talent for no compensation. I've yet to see any of the Holt Cat apologists defend that.
what if
DUNCAN gets hurt would spurs win a le then if they had devin brown?
quit playing the what if game
spurs may even sign big dog and he is capable of putting up 20 points if finley gets hurt
No kidding. The Spurs have paid more for end of the bench players who were seldom used. Another is Steve Smith.
Why make Devin Brown the fall guy for the entire lux tax distribution the Spurs would have lost by retaining Brown when you have Radoslav slated to make $6.7 mil in 2005-06?
And again, who cares if the Spurs lose a slight fraction of the lux tax distributions? I don't. I'm a fan of the team, not ownership.
What? I can't criticize the Spurs? Is this some other forum I have logged into?
Wait and see who else is signed and whether they pan out. Then we can judge.
Because signing Rasho didn't put them over the tax at the time.Why make Devin Brown the fall guy for the entire lux tax distribution the Spurs would have lost by retaining Brown when you have Radoslav slated to make $6.7 mil in 2005-06?
If they had a choice they probably would've let someone else go.
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