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Like everyone else said. Even the most miserable scrub will get PAID next year and Barnes is a pretty good scrub.
No brainer
He'll get PAID next summer. No surprises. I think Hortford is the only decent PF in next summers crop, and generally, after KD, it's a fairly weak free agent class on a year when there is going to be an ass load of money out there.
Like everyone else said. Even the most miserable scrub will get PAID next year and Barnes is a pretty good scrub.
No brainer
hopefully that leads to some disorder within the Warriors ... although that's unlikely ...
Barnes is a fringe player. He plays good D and he benefits from the double teams Curry constantly gets and on occasion Thompson. 4 yr/ 64mil is way overpriced for him. Warrriors can offer him this much b/c they can go over the cap to retain him. Other teams, this will be eating into their cap space.
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I picked the Clippers over the Spurs in round 1, and I said the Warriors would easily win the le after I underestimated them in November, I was never confident about the Spurs chances following November, it became obvious they were burnt out..
You and your krew jinxed Kawhi big time and that's why we lost to the clippers and the another le...I don't have other usernames
I picked the Clippers over the Spurs in round 1, and I said the Warriors would easily win the le after I underestimated them in November, I was never confident about the Spurs chances following November, it became obvious they were burnt out..
Kawhi had a good series vs. the Clippers..he could have played better in the last couple of games, but Pop, Parker and Splitter's injury were much more significant reasons for the L..
When you lose the series by one basket, there is no more significant reason for the loss than Kawhi shrinking and getting outplayed by Barnes...
That's a silly way to look at it, tbh..anyways, even if the Spurs had defeated the Clippers, there's no way a team with Parker playing so poorly, Manu being mostly a non-factor and Splitter being unable to move would have won a le, not to mention the fatigue from consecutive Finals runs..
You forget the compe ion, very injured rockets and cavs, inexperienced with rookie coach and good matchup warriros, we had great chance, even some of our players publicly admitted that we missed great opportunity...
This is when NBA money just becomes ridiculous. A kid who barely averages 10PPG and while a useful part to his team turns down a guaranteed 16M per year salary, is a moron. What a joke.
Boom.
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Dude Harlem may troll every now and then but he is spot on in his assessment. The spurs were basically coming off the equivalent of 3 finals appearances. There is a reason why its hard for teams to get to the finals 4 straight years. The injuries to parker and splitter killed the team during that December gauntlet of games. Manu and Danny were playing pretty well during that stretch but they blew there load trying to keep the team afloat and the never seemed to recover, especially Manu. When the team played the Clips they were basically starting each half of each game playing 3 on 5 because Parker was ineffective and Splitter was hurt. I am sort of glad they lost in the first round. They needed the extra month of rest to recharge.
Even if they would have gotten past the clips they would have maybe beaten the Rocs. The Rocks were gassed by the end of that series. Parker would still have been parker and Splitter needed time to recover. If the team would have face G State, they would have probably been blow out because they would have been gassed. Yea they matched up well when healthy and rested but they would have lost.
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Dellavescuba was the 2nd best player on the eastern team in the finals. Spurs would have romped. Kawhi cost Tim two rings and counting
quit acting like you're spurs fan got
I had my moment with kobyz but he is on a roll lately throwing napalm on everybody asses
that's a very nice way to say he played terrible last 3 games
I'm a Kawhi fan, he is future of the franchise, one of main contributor to Tim's fifth but he shat the bed against clips... overwhelmed by double teams, outplayed by Barnes, shot horribly last 3 games after playing great first 4 games...
He has been a significant part of losing against Clips even tho Parker takes the crown of the biggest reason.
Now I agree with your next post, Spurs would not have won another le last year.
How would the Grizzlies "improve a whole lot", considering how similar he is to Green? They need a go to scorer/creator and that's exactly what he struggles with.
He probably is indispensable to the Warriors. The fact that he can space the floor, teams can't easily hide a weak perimeter defender on him and he can credibly guard both forward positions, in most match-ups, is a rare combination.
Thompson, on the other hand, the Cavs could get by without, if Varejao could get through a season relatively unscathed.
I don't buy a lot of that, i still think it was a great oportonity to grind out another le by giving everything left and taking advantage of cir stances, chimestrry and momentum... and then Timmy and Manu could have been comfortable to call it career and retire, even i would have felt satisfy enough that Duncan and this group of Spurs achieve enough what they worth and to put ״6״ behind, could have been such amazing scenario...
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I think that he's better than Jeff Green, quite simple. He can shoot better and Grizzlies need shooting badly. He could play some small ball for them better than Green can and he's younger with a strong work ethic and possibility to improve. He has played in a system with superstars that take a whole lot of attention from him and who can set him up for shots. The knock against his demands from GSW fans is precisely that he hasn't looked like a star when they have him playing with the bench. They scream roleplayer!!!!! And I don't disagree but players who can do what he does at 22 years old in a playoff team (heck! Championship team) have enormous value in the league. We saw Demarre Caroll get paid an He's much older (29?). 22 yr old Barnes will get interest from many teams after the top free agents have signed, an There is always the risk that while everyone is after Durant a frisky team will go hard after him. He will get paid. He's worth a lot more to the Warriors, but he's capable of improving several teams that need a starting level wing player with upside.
So do I, but they're similar players. More than shooting, the Grizzlies need a go to creator/scorer and that's not him.
Keep in mind, he's restricted, so even if someone maxes him out, they could still match if they want to.
Keep eating what "if" foo-foo with a side of wishful thinking. Do you not remember how the Spurs struggled against the Warriors in 2013 when Splitter was injured & Draymond Green was a nobody along w/ Iggy not being on their roster? Tony was playing at a high level back then & it took a miracle in GM 1, Curry twisting his ankle, Bogut being worn out & Splitter coming back for Gm 6 just for the team to escape w/ a series victory. The Warriors struggled against the Cavs mainly because Draymond Green was playing out of sorts ala Kawhi in Gm1/Gm2 of the 2014 Finals, once he turned it on & Iggy started hitting shots it was over for the Cavs. Folks are being too optimistic b/c of the Kawhi 7 steal game when the Warriors had already clinched & didn't give too much a on both sides of the floor.
If you want to see what would have happened had the Spurs played the Warriors in the postseason then look no further than this regular season game when the Spurs were hobbling & Iggy was knocking down shots:
Harrison Barnes isn't a shooter ala Demarre Carroll, Barnes simply can hit open shots to keep the defense honest & the majority of his shots happen to be WIDE OPEN b/c he the 4th/5th option. If the Grizz sign him to spread the floor then it's going to be a disaster. He's basically an undersized power-forward from the 80s who can knockdown open shots. Jeff Green on the other hand is a small forward that can't consistently knockdown open shots but can drop 30 on you when his shot is falling.
Big Dummy, back in November Tony was actually an above average point guard & the Warriors were still learning the ropes under a new coach.
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