He'd outplay every matchup except Larry and Bron and he's proven he can match brons output(30 ppg in the 2012 finals). But yeah they'd get destroyed because of other positions. I think Harden is in for his best season this year yet, and he's improved on D, but he's no match for players like tmac and Jordan. Cousins and AD are too young so the jury is still out on whether they could hang or not..and curry would have a lot of trouble getting open...
With all that said though, there's a lot of spacing and that team could get ridiculously hot for one series.
IDK. I think Barkley would be a tough matchup for KD. Barkley muscled down true centers. He'd kill Durant down low.
But maybe in time, that lineup looks better. Like you said, they're young. Just looking at them on that graphic with the other legends, makes them seem out of place.
Bench
PG: Payton/Penny
SG: Drexler/Miller
SF: Pippen
PF: Barkley/Rodman
C: Robinson/Ewing
You're gonna put Hakeem (who curb stomped Shaq in the Finals) and MJ on the same team?,,,no one beats them. 90's easily,,,
2000 would face the 90's. Also, Iverson replaced with Steve Nash.
2000s with Nash > 90s > 2010s > 80s > D1 Basketball random 5-man unit > WNBA team > 70s > High School Senior 5-man unit > 60s
90's has the best SG and best player of all time in MJ to go along with a top 2 center of all time in Hakeem,,,also a top 2 PF of all time in Malone,,,,a top 2 PG of all time only behind Magic in Stockton and the top 3 PF of all time in Barkley and that team wouldn't win?,,,,lmao,,,,to many youngsters on here picking the 2000'.
Barkley would bust LeBron's ass in the post & dare him to shoot jumpers on the other end.
Wilt would all over every big today
was dominating pickup games at 50
Muphucka couldn't shoot FTs. 2010s team would kill the 60s team by exchanging 3s w/ Wilt's bricks.Wilt would all over every big today
was dominating pickup games at 50
In order:
90's team (with possibly DRob or Ewing instead of Malone, Hakeem at PF)
00's team (with Chris Paul instead of Allen Iverson)
80's team (with perhaps Gervin instead of Isiah, Magic at PG obv. He isn't a SG)
70's team (tbh this team is actually pretty impressive.)
10's team (too many primarily jumpshooters and no answer for all those elite bigs)
60's team (skill gap too big)
at Anthony Davis' face
" me, why am I playing with all those chuckers ?"
"These s won't ever pass me the ball"
Shaq was barely 2-3 years pro and Olajuwon didn't exactly shut him down, Shaq put up 28, 12 & 6 against him.
The problem with using past performances of new vs old generation is that the older generation usually has a big advantage due to experience.
Each new generation takes time to reach their primes.
The first 5 years or so generally consist of:
-Filling out physically
-Adapting to NBA basketball and the speed of the game
-Adapting to the playoffs
-Honing their skills each summer and getting better
And a bunch of other .
Aldridge took about 7 years to get to 270+lbs, KD took years to get to 240+, Lebron took years to get to 270+, Davis is up to 250+ from 220lbs in 3 years, etc. the new generation takes time to develop.
Meanwhile the vets, while past their primes, have a wealth of experience which gives them a huge advantage over that younger generation. Another example would be Olajuwon vs BOS, they completely picked apart Olajuwon's team due to a lack of experience. However had that been prime Olajuwon, he would've utterly destroyed that Celtics team.
Chris Paul only made the All-Star team twice pre-2010. The best point guard for the first half of the 2000s was Kidd & Nash was mid 2000s then Chris Paul took the crown. Folks used to argue Deron Williams was better than Chris Paul before Deron left Utah. If anything considering LeBron is part of the 2000s team I would put Wade as the point guard since he dominated for 5+ year in the 2000s, won a championship w/ an epic Finals performance plus his peak is also better than the rest.
For the 90s team, I would take Payton over Stockton b/c Payton is the best all-around point guard to play the game & beat Stockton/Malone in their primes while eating Stockton's lunch then followed it up by suffocating Jordan in 96 Finals like no other. Let's also not forget Payton used to own Hakeem's Rockets.
As far as rankings go, anything pre 90's gets killed.
1. 00's team, too ing big, that's some insane size
2. 10's or 90's. If Davis were in his prime I'd take them for sure over the 90's, I also felt both these teams could've been constructed better.
Malone-Barkley-Stockton would all get torn apart on the perimeter, the only 2 defenders would be Jordan and Olajuwon, and Jordan never went up against the type of perimeter players there are today, nor did Olajuwon. It'd be a shoot out, 90's have the post advantage but the 10's a huge perimeter advantage, it'd be raining 3's all day and it wouldn't stop.
60's - russell and wilt can't work together...
70's - maravich was flashy, but he doesn't belong on any all-decade team. he's the weak link on an otherwise strong 70's team
80's - magic and isaiah together? great talent, but dont like the fit
90's - strong but how can you actually call chuck a SF?
00's - cant trust iverson at all... and a kobe/iverson backcourt is pretty cancerous. duncan/shaq wouldn't get touches
10's - davis can't hang with ANY of the centers he'd be up against. lol at harden defending all timers. this team gets waxed
i like 70's and 90's
Penny didn't play at a high enough level long enough to make the squad.
lefty with the goods. No way they should have made it to the finals in '01I agree tbh; AI had ty offensive teammates
Who was he going to defer to?
What an offensive powerhouse
Definitely the 2000's squad.
All star appearances don't really matter to me. Imo Chris Paul was the MVP the season Kobe won his. . .and that was in the 00's. Chris Paul was already good (and you don't see Paul on the 10's list, so he's fair game for 00's list imo). Kidd was great about as long as Paul in the 00's. Both of them have overlap to different decades. I like Paul's skillset a bit more than Kidd's. More of an offensive weapon shooting the ball himself. No knock on Kidd, but I think Kidd's primary attribute is leadership and the team already has Duncan and LeBron. His big skill over Paul is rebounding. . .but you have Shaq and Duncan, two top 10 GOATs.
90's I definitely would not take Payton. Stockton is a better playmaker and outside shooter (which that team needs since literally the other 4 on people in the post already), and is a very good defender too. Stock is excellent man. Don't attribute Payton to "stopping Hakeem" because he never defended him. As for Payton beating the Jazz. . .you realize Payton's Sonics got dumpstered by an 8 seed in the first round while at full strength, right? Full strength and their team basically in it's prime. They typically didn't get out of the first or 2nd round, unlike the Jazz.
I like Gary Payton, but no way I am taking him over John Stockton. I can't think of a single team composition that I'd prefer Payton on over Stockton. Dude was extremely efficient and very good on both ends of the floor. He is the prototype PG imo. Exactly what you want out of that position.
Why would Lebron be considered an '00 player? He's having his best years on the '10, tbh.
Iverson is my favourite player of all-time but he is overrated as . If you actually want to win, your team would be better off with other guards from the '00s like Kidd, Nash, Ginobili, among others.
I'd much rather have Paul on the 00 team than Iverson or Kidd.
I get some of your reasoning but you underestimate the versatility of Gp's game. At times in the finals ... he defended MJ as good as any guard ever has. And he used to routinely dominate Stockton head-to-head as well. Stockton had absolutely no shot of ever guarding anyone of MJ's caliber ...I dont he could guard Wade or Kobe either. IF I wanted the quintessential PG and more consistent outside shooting I take Stockton ... but if I wanted the better defender, quicker faster taller player it would be GP.
in these hypothetical match-ups tough to say who is greater but to me the defensive versatility of the 90's (with GP) and the 00's (Lebron) does give them an edge. I am of coursed biased a bit to the 80's but truth be told unless I can steal young MJ to replace Isiah and place him at SG they probably could not beat and of those swuads outside of the 70's 60's and maybe the 2010's ...
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East was weak and as ty asthey were on offense that is a great defensive team which is how they won ...
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