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    Kyle gets pulled for defensive breakdowns, not passing up threes. If he wants to play, he has to consistently man his spot on the defensive end. He has too many breakdowns, and does not have the foot speed to recover. He has to figure one out or he will continue to sit. Pop isn't playing when it comes to defense this year.

    He's not worried about offense at this point, and spurs starting to show why.
    I, for one, think issue is not his defense... he has been more than decent on this side of the ball again all things considered

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    Kyle gets pulled for defensive breakdowns, not passing up threes. If he wants to play, he has to consistently man his spot on the defensive end. He has too many breakdowns, and does not have the foot speed to recover. He has to figure one out or he will continue to sit. Pop isn't playing when it comes to defense this year.

    He's not worried about offense at this point, and spurs starting to show why.
    You are right about that. He has figured out ways to be effective defensively. His numbers show it, and if he wasn't doing a good job at times he would have gotten no playing time whatsoever if he was a stiff stick like Austin Daye. But bc he's slow he has no margin for error. He has to stay focused. If he's caught ballwatching as he did for a moment this past game, his man will give him the slip and he won't be able to recover. When he was blown this past game, he was not paying close attention to his guy but to the guy with the ball next to him, and he was standing pretty straight up. That is a recipe for disaster.

    I suppose this part of his coaching is necessary bc he can't loose focus while he's out there even for a second.

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    You are right about that. He has figured out ways to be effective defensively. His numbers show it, and if he wasn't doing a good job at times he would have gotten no playing time whatsoever if he was a stiff stick like Austin Daye. But bc he's slow he has no margin for error. He has to stay focused. If he's caught ballwatching as he did for a moment this past game, his man will give him the slip and he won't be able to recover. When he was blown this past game, he was not paying close attention to his guy but to the guy with the ball next to him, and he was standing pretty straight up. That is a recipe for disaster.

    I suppose this part of his coaching is necessary bc he can't loose focus while he's out there even for a second.
    Exactly.

    He plays decent to good defense when he's dialed in. When he isn't disciplined though, it causes huge breakdowns. These arnt tolerable mistakes when you're chasing a championship.

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    I, for one, think issue is not his defense... he has been more than decent on this side of the ball again all things considered
    He's decent to good on defense, but he can't afford to not play disciplined as he has zero recovery speed. Watch the games, you'll see Kyle get pulled after his man waltzes by him and breaks down the defense because he lost sight of him. Pops not having it. He pulls Tony for the same thing, which is why Tony has played so good this year on the defensive end.

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    He's decent to good on defense, but he can't afford to not play disciplined as he has zero recovery speed. Watch the games, you'll see Kyle get pulled after his man waltzes by him and breaks down the defense because he lost sight of him. Pops not having it. He pulls Tony for the same thing, which is why Tony has played so good this year on the defensive end.
    not saying he is not making mistakes on this side of the ball, just saying this is not the primary reason why he is not seeing playing time

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    What KA needs to know is that he right now is not orchestrating the offense with both Manu and Diaw on the floor. So, his role is to launch that 3!
    That's why I keep saying that he has to hit those 3's at a prolific rate. That way he can differentiate himself from guys ahead of him.
    You have a good point here, in that the only thing this current bench could use is another shooter. That is not his strength, and if he's used as a shooter only, Pop is not getting the best out of him quite frankly, but they don't need the other things he can do this season and that is your point. He has to have a role to play and that would be to shoot the 3 and play defense. Has to be just a bit more aggressive with his shot and go from there. If he's clanking then reassess the quality of the shots he took, but be more daring and not pass up shots. He might also hit at least at a 36-37% which he hit in the dleague. He should ideally take 1-2 per game. No need to be chucking, but just enough to add to the team, and improve his confidence in that shot.

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    You have a good point here, in that the only thing this current bench could use is another shooter. That is not his strength, and if he's used as a shooter only, Pop is not getting the best out of him quite frankly, but they don't need the other things he can do this season and that is your point. He has to have a role to play and that would be to shoot the 3 and play defense. Has to be just a bit more aggressive with his shot and go from there. If he's clanking then reassess the quality of the shots he took, but be more daring and not pass up shots. He might also hit at least at a 36-37% which he hit in the dleague. He should ideally take 1-2 per game. No need to be chucking, but just enough to add to the team, and improve his confidence in that shot.
    Anderson has a ton of skills. A lot of NBA players have made a living on just one skill: 3 point shooting. Folks are look for a Belinelli replacement, it isn't his game, but if Leonard who shot 29% in college can now shoot 50%, then Anderson better figure out how he can shoot with a decent clip.

    Look at Paul Pierce, despite being quite slow at his current age, makes a good living chucking up 3 point shots.

    Every Spurs player has to justify why they are on the court on offense and defense. I can see Anderson justify it defensively, he adds a lot of length. I however don't see it if he's passing up open shots.

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    He'll never be a three point chucker because a chucker doesnt want to drive, he wants to have as fast a release as possible to avoid driving. Kyle wants to drive and he doesnt have a quick release at all but hes got to take the shot if hes got the room, if not then he can fake and drive.

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    He'll never be a three point chucker because a chucker doesnt want to drive, he wants to have as fast a release as possible to avoid driving. Kyle wants to drive and he doesnt have a quick release at all but hes got to take the shot if hes got the room, if not then he can fake and drive.
    Ideally, he should be posting up little guys just the way Livingston does. That only happens if he's inserted as one of the guards and not the SF. To have that happen, he can either be a Danny Green (3 and D) or a Parker. A Danny Green something reasonable. The NBA has not seen a Magic Johnson like player in a very long time.

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    He is just pretty okay at most things and good at nothing. He is limited as to his potential in most things as well because of various reasons such as being unathletic and having a slow release.He needs to become good at something and be a specialist at it. Probably has most potential to develop a good shot and be a spot shooter but his slow release will hurt him there..... He is a decent passer though so at least he can move the ball.

    there are teams in the NBA he could get minutes on..... Just not the Spurs.

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    He is just pretty okay at most things and good at nothing. He is limited as to his potential in most things as well because of various reasons such as being unathletic and having a slow release.He needs to become good at something and be a specialist at it. Probably has most potential to develop a good shot and be a spot shooter but his slow release will hurt him there..... He is a decent passer though so at least he can move the ball.

    there are teams in the NBA he could get minutes on..... Just not the Spurs.
    30 teams passed on him. I doubt he can get minutes elsewhere. Any teams you have in mind?

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    30 teams passed on him. I doubt he can get minutes elsewhere. Any teams you have in mind?

    He he could be a bench player on bad teams.... There is a lot of bad teams out there.

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    Lakers 76ers to start.... If he couldn't get playing time on those teams then I'm not sure why we are talking about him.

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    Lakers 76ers to start.... If he couldn't get playing time on those teams then I'm not sure why we are talking about him.
    A lot of bad teams actually think they are better and more talented than they actually are. I don't think they would be interested in a SloMo player that knows only how to pass.

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    Ideally, he should be posting up little guys just the way Livingston does. That only happens if he's inserted as one of the guards and not the SF. To have that happen, he can either be a Danny Green (3 and D) or a Parker. A Danny Green something reasonable. The NBA has not seen a Magic Johnson like player in a very long time.
    I was actually surprised in the Minnesota game (the highlights are in his church thread) he posted up on Shabazz Muhammed (he's a legit SF type-body and build like Simmons) and made an easy shot, he also posted up Bjelica a 6'10 guy and got all the way to the rim. These guys are not good defenders, but they are tall/strong guys. In no way midgets. I also remember him shooting hook shots against Jokic in that Denver game. He has such good ballhandling that he will get to his spots unless you get physical with him. If you get too physical he might draw fouls.. He's actually very skilled in the post.

    I don' think they post him up enough bc he hasn't earned it? gotten over himself? a mix?. They also haven't needed him to. December of last season, his rookie year, more raw than he is now, undermanned in the bench, Pop asked him to post up. He scored 15 points in that game, mostly self generated shots and drew fouls even on a legit SF in Nic Batum. For sure he can post up and has game. Spurs just don't ask him to bc they have better options there. They day they need him to do that, they will and I think he will come through for us like he did in SL. If you think about it the kind of game they have him playing (spotting up for 3) is not the game they asked him to develop (what we saw in SL).

    There will come a time when we will need him to play aggressive and make stuff happen. Maybe next season with different personnel. It's not right now, and maybe Pop even wants to get him in a defensive mindset right now and work on other holes in his game, like his 3 pt shot before giving him a better role.

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    I was actually surprised in the Minnesota game (the highlights are in his church thread) he posted up on Shabazz Muhammed (he's a legit SF type-body and build like Simmons) and made an easy shot, he also posted up Bjelica a 6'10 guy and got all the way to the rim. These guys are not good defenders, but they are tall/strong guys. In no way midgets. I also remember him shooting hook shots against Jokic in that Denver game. He has such good ballhandling that he will get to his spots unless you get physical with him. If you get too physical he might draw fouls.. He's actually very skilled in the post.

    I don' think they post him up enough bc he hasn't earned it? gotten over himself? a mix?. They also haven't needed him to. December of last season, his rookie year, more raw than he is now, undermanned in the bench, Pop asked him to post up. He scored 15 points in that game, mostly self generated shots and drew fouls even on a legit SF in Nic Batum. For sure he can post up and has game. Spurs just don't ask him to bc they have better options there. They day they need him to do that, they will and I think he will come through for us like he did in SL. If you think about it the kind of game they have him playing (spotting up for 3) is not the game they asked him to develop (what we saw in SL).

    There will come a time when we will need him to play aggressive and make stuff happen. Maybe next season with different personnel. It's not right now, and maybe Pop even wants to get him in a defensive mindset right now and work on other holes in his game, like his 3 pt shot before giving him a better role.
    I remember the Portland game. He was unstoppable even against the likes of Batum.

    Spurs really don't like posting up players, unless it is Diaw who has the ability of just score point blank. Anderson is different because he makes pull up jumpers. Lately he's had a high percentage but it hasn't been tested with a lot of volume.

    He also must be pretty good at this because in practice, he's facing Leonard as a defender.

    What is clear though is that if the clock is winding down, Anderson has the green light to take his man one-on-one.

    There's still a lot of regular season left to play. Who knows, Anderson might just make it into the playoff rotation.

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    It's kind of hard to overlook how terribly botched the thread le is.

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    Kyle has 1 decent move/skill on offense, that sideways dribble dribble and back down for 7 seconds and then fadeaway from mid range, usually near the end of the shot clock. Funny thing is, that shot actually goes in more often than not.
    Youre not watching close enough.

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    There will come a time when we will need him to play aggressive and make stuff happen. Maybe next season with different personnel. It's not right now, and maybe Pop even wants to get him in a defensive mindset right now and work on other holes in his game, like his 3 pt shot before giving him a better role.
    Same progression as Kawhi. Kawhi had to play good D and become a spot up 3 pt shooter then from that foundation came the rest of his game. Same with KA. Unfortunately for him though, A - Hes not Kawhi, B - We're loaded like never before and C - Theres more urgency now to win it all than when Kawhi was a rookie. This is why Simmons is more valuable right now. Hes talented and plays a regular style of b-ball and frankly, seems to want it more.

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    not sure if this PTR article has been posted yet. didn't look real hard...

    http://www.poundingtherock.com/2016/...-kyle-anderson

    EDIT: just found it posted in the middle of the Who Is Better thread...

    oops
    Last edited by Bender; 01-05-2016 at 08:09 PM.

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    Didnt see that other one so thanks. Article pretty much sums it up...shoot the ball KA!

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    Anderson is not an NBA player.
    Book it!

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    Just stop with the guarantees. You and Tony Romo.

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    Anderson is not an NBA player.
    Book it!
    agree

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    Anderson is not an NBA player.
    Book it!
    Just checked nba.com.... he's an NBA player...

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