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    The Knicks hit all their ridiculous shots. Is that the weaknes you mean?
    Dumbass. Of course the knicks were hitting shots. But you cant combine hot shooting from your.opponet with your putrid offense. Its a recipe for disaster. Jesus..some people really have zero basketball understanding.

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    Langston Scrubaway almost playing Porker to a draw. Lol

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    Dumbass. Of course the knicks were hitting shots. But you cant combine hot shooting from your.opponet with your putrid offense. Its a recipe for disaster. Jesus..some people really have zero basketball understanding.
    Answer the question. What ing weakness? The Knicks just hit all their stupid shots. That's it.

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    JOE in here acting like a bucket.
    That broke got pussied out when I bet him 1 grand. Broke probably has to steal money from his granny.

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    That broke got pussied out when I bet him 1 grand. Broke probably has to steal money from his granny.

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    Fortunately we won't be playing the Knicks in the playoffs

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    Spurs will be fine as long as you stop making GDTs.

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    Thanks.

    As you can see, the knicks complelty outplayed the spurs since the 200 mark. Defenses are taking notes and I wouldnt be surprised to see OKC and GSW take advantage of this glaring weakness.
    What? Spurs made 2 out of 3 of their shots from the 2 minute mark. Tony made a layup and a 10 foot shot that was a good shot to take. Aldridge took and made the other.

    I'm not going to pretend the offense looked good the last 8 minutes, and I do not necessarily disagree about more off-ball movement being a good idea, but our problem was not the offense last 2 minutes.

    The problem was defense; ny scored 13 points in 3:21, on pace for 39 points in the quarter.



    Just because kwahi did not take the last few shots, that does not mean the offense does not work.

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    Nope. Not as long as Enrique thinks the 4th Qtr is his time to put his hero cape on.

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    What? Spurs made 2 out of 3 of their shots from the 2 minute mark. Tony made a layup and a 10 foot shot that was a good shot to take. Aldridge took and made the other.

    I'm not going to pretend the offense looked good the last 8 minutes, and I do not necessarily disagree about more off-ball movement being a good idea, but our problem was not the offense last 2 minutes.

    The problem was defense; ny scored 13 points in 3:21, on pace for 39 points in the quarter.



    Just because kwahi did not take the last few shots, that does not mean the offense does not work.
    Seriously you are so stupid.

    The spurs statistically are one of the poorest teams in clutch situatio n there was even a tweet about it. Im on my phone so i cant see it.

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    That broke got pussied out when I bet him 1 grand. Broke probably has to steal money from his granny.
    Trusting the Krew lol, all you gots are broke and have no option but to poach

    What happened, that weight finally caught up to your scooter and you need a new one?

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    Seriously you are so stupid.

    The spurs statistically are one of the poorest teams in clutch situatio n there was even a tweet about it. Im on my phone so i cant see it.

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    statistics on clutch shooting may speak to bad general spurs tendencies, I don't claim otherwise.

    But in this game, you are misguided. you picked a bad game as your example. even if you were not watching, the play by play should have told you a layup and shot in the paint with parker having space to shoot are good shots.

    in the sense that the spurs got good shots and made 3 of 4 of the last shots, with parker taking 2 good and 1 bad shot in that time, if the clutch stats say spurs get bad shots late game, that was not true in crunch time tonight.

    pick a game the spurs actually lose in crunchtime, or at least lose the lead because of bad offense.

    instead you just try to force it by ignoring facts and pushing your player hating agenda.

    boring.

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    Nope. Not as long as Enrique thinks the 4th Qtr is his time to put his hero cape on.
    Its not just Parker in general. Teams are actually gameplanning for him. They force the spurs to run their offense via parker by staying on their man and not allowing sets to start.

    This takes away two things.

    - Ball movement
    - the best offensive player
    - and basically the other three guys that is not the screen setter.

    It forces San Antonio to play a two man game.

    The correct Decision is to not fall for the obvious strategy and run a set that generates movement. For example, you hardly see Horns, pinch post or other sets in late game siutation.

    Parker is thinking hes taking what the defense is giving.him...

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    statistics on clutch shooting may speak to bad general spurs tendencies, I don't claim otherwise.

    But in this game, you are misguided. you picked a bad game as your example. even if you were not watching, the play by play should have told you a layup and shot in the paint with parker having space to shoot are good shots.

    in the sense that the spurs got good shots and made 3 of 4 of the last shots, with parker taking 2 good and 1 bad shot in that time, if the clutch stats say spurs get bad shots late game, that was not true in crunch time tonight.

    pick a game the spurs actually lose in crunchtime, or at least lose the lead because of bad offense.

    instead you just try to force it by ignoring facts and pushing your player hating agenda.

    boring.
    Jesus never talk about basketball ever again. Very poor grap of offensive flow. Just vanilla mainstream oh but he was 2 out of 3 take. Dont ever quote me again.

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    Dude it's ing January. And we won.

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    Jesus never talk about basketball ever again. Very poor grap of offensive flow. Just vanilla mainstream oh but he was 2 out of 3 take. Dont ever quote me again.
    anything else?

    boring. same old lack of content. you say "offensive flow" all the time, like the spurs don't know how to move the ball.

    Unfortunately, we obviously have not figured out how to get kawhi the ball with off-ball movement, so your actual earlier point has merit, but it simply is not the reason for the result tonight, regardless of the validity of your point generally.

    typically kawhi gets the ball in isos, and he either shoots a jumper, drives to the basket or posts up.

    tonight, i doubt he makes more than 75% shooting, like we had with the 4 shots we took since the 2 minute mark, so your whole "offensive flow" etc, however valid generally, does not apply to the result tonight.

    all of which also does not change the fact that you are a boring one trick pony that can't handle actual discussion without getting your panties twisted.

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    Dude it's ing January. And we won.
    This is a forum meant for guys who understand the game to talk about the game. We dont have our skirts and we are at poor at dancing so sorry if we dont just cheer and sing kombaya.

    Good thread op. Dont let the cheerleaders bring you down.

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    Joshua must be on his period. Real heavy flow jaojao?

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    Playoffs are a different game, tbh... much more execution heavy, way more attention paid to each possession and much more detailed coaching.

    Now, that's not to say the Spurs couldn't lose close games in the playoffs, but I don't even think Pop called a timeout in the clutch tonight, IIRC.

    So, sure, something to keep an eye on, but you gotta be careful about projecting too much from the regular season...

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    Dumbutt. Of course the knicks were hitting shots. But you cant combine hot shooting from your.opponet with your putrid offense. Its a recipe for disaster. Jesus..some people really have zero basketball understanding.

    Wait.. so if one team is making their shots.. and you arnt making yours, youre saying your team might not be in a good position?

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    This team is amazing. The Knicks have been playing great basketball lately and are coming off big ones against top east teams. They're getting healthier and melo is taking less shots than any other time in his career, making them way more balanced. Porzingis is a matchup nightmare to everyone, and they have some streaky shooters.

    Spurs made up for their lackluster start, which isn't the norm as some people are saying. They held teams to record lows in the first quarter a few times. People who make playoff predictions off of one game, are not people who understand basketball, although they claim to.

    Their Is a reason they go best of 7. One game is not close to being definitive of a team.

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    There's a valid point here: our NetRtg in the clutch is awful.

    The type of play we go to in the clutch is always the same thing: Parker PnR for (usually) a long 2.

    Our offense is 3rd best in the league when adjusted for opposition quality, and we don't run a whole lot if any of the Parker PnR game. So the question is: why would we deviate from our actually excellent offense in favour of running a Parker PnR? It's not that Parker is bad or not clutch - it's that we have this outstanding offense 95% of the time, and in the 5% of the time when it really matters - we go away from it in favour of a statistically below average offense.

    It's not a playerfan thing, it's just an observable issue that the TEAM has. Parker's actually a good mid-range shooter, but that doesn't mean all your offense should come from that. Kawhi is no worse in the mid-range (a higher FG% from 10-16 ft but otherwise around the same as Parker) but he also draws double teams, is a bigger 3pt threat, more athleticism to finish (now that Parker has declined) and is just generally a better iso player. Kawhi iso is better than a Parker PnR, statistically, at this stage of their careers.

    But also it doesn't have to be a Kawhi iso play either. The Spurs can run all kinds of players for a corner 3, put any combo of Duncan/Diaw/West/LMA in a High-Low (I think West as the High man is great, because he also has a legit mid-range threat), post-up a Kawhi/Diaw/West/Boban mismatch...there are SO many options on this team and we go to one of the statistically worst ones. Yeah we survived tonight but that's an example of an INSTANCE paying off (or not totally failing). The PATTERN is bad, there's no question about that.

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    There's a valid point here: our NetRtg in the clutch is awful.

    The type of play we go to in the clutch is always the same thing: Parker PnR for (usually) a long 2.

    Our offense is 3rd best in the league when adjusted for opposition quality, and we don't run a whole lot if any of the Parker PnR game. So the question is: why would we deviate from our actually excellent offense in favour of running a Parker PnR? It's not that Parker is bad or not clutch - it's that we have this outstanding offense 95% of the time, and in the 5% of the time when it really matters - we go away from it in favour of a statistically very average offense.

    It's not a playerfan thing, it's just an observable issue that the TEAM has. Parker's actually a good mid-range shooter, but that doesn't mean all your offense should come from that. Kawhi is no worse in the mid-range (a higher FG% from 10-16 ft but otherwise around the same as Parker) but he also draws double teams, is a bigger 3pt threat, more athleticism to finish (now that Parker has declined) and is just generally a better iso player. Kawhi iso is better than a Parker PnR, statistically, at this stage of their careers.

    But also it doesn't have to be a Kawhi iso play either. The Spurs can run all kinds of players for a corner 3, put any combo of Duncan/Diaw/West/LMA in a High-Low (I think West as the High man is great, because he also has a legit mid-range threat), post-up a Kawhi/Diaw/West/Boban mismatch...there are SO many options on this team and we go to one of the statistically worst ones. Yeah we survived tonight but that's an example of an INSTANCE paying off (or not totally failing). The PATTERN is bad, there's no question about that.
    This is what forum basketball should.consist of. Actuall basketball talk as opposed to "dont complain we won cheerleading post"

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    did not say don't complain. did not deny your general assertion.

    but you obviously did not watch the game, or you are half blind by your boring player hate; otherwise, i think you would have noticed we could not stop them from scoring, and that was why we had trouble THIS GAME.

    instead of pushing your little agenda you might pick your spots more strategically.

    of course, anyone agreeing with you speaks actual basketball and everyone who does not is stupid.

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    I wish all the Spurs games were close games. They play tons better and more focus when they play with a 5 point lead than with a 20 point lead.

    Spurs cant keep big leads. Nothing new there.

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