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    I'm sure you guys have covered this before in the multiple blame Bush threads, but where exactly does to sy it is the federal governments job to have an evacuation plan for one particular city. I would be under the assumption that that is the city and state gorvernments job. I know go there at my own peril.
    It says so in the WH written, National Response Plan and the Stafford Act, but beyond that, the Federal government is the only en y with the resources and the coordination level already in place to deal with a crisis on this nature. Right now, the highways out of the Galveston-Houston gulf coast region should be being directed out by National Guard. Private buses should be commandeered by FEMA and the sick and elderly should be moved away from the SE Texas area.

    If predictions come true that this thing stalls out in SE Texas, as I think it will, we could have a real catastrophe on our hands soon.

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    Dan, once again you have such a positive outlook on life? Remind me to come to you when I need a pep talk!

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    Please. If NO had evacuated ahead of the storm like Galveston did then that wouldn't be a problem.
    There are still people in Galveston thinking that a 15 foot sea wall is going to protect them. Some parts of Galveston have no sea wall at all.

    The point is, is that there is no coordination for massive civilian evacuation by the Federal Government. They should be taking a much more pro-active role by delivering fuel to gas stations, delivering drinking water to stations along the highway, mobile hospital facilities should aready be operating in West Texas. People should be encouraged to car pool. HOL lanes should be reserved for commercial buses headed out of town only.

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    Dan - why do you hate America?

    BTW: Looks like I am sitting it out in the long haul. You gonna tell me how I am supposed to feel, and the hardships I am really facing, because you seem to give everyone else their opinion.

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    Dan, once again you have such a positive outlook on life? Remind me to come to you when I need a pep talk!
    I don't think people quiet understand the consequences of what is going to happen. 16 of 18 refiners in the area have already shut down production because of Rita. As I am typing this there is gas-shock reverberating through-out TX as officials try and pump as much fuel as they can into the Houston area. Get ready to sit in gas lines, and that's if you can find it.

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    Dan - why do you hate America?

    BTW: Looks like I am sitting it out in the long haul. You gonna tell me how I am supposed to feel, and the hardships I am really facing, because you seem to give everyone else their opinion.
    Look, I have been telling everyone for weeks to prepare for something like this. A year ago I posted that a hurricane was headed for the Galveston-Houston area. Some people like Cecil Collins chose to take my advice, others chose to just mock me. Whatever, we are all grown adults who have to live with our own decisions, right?

    Good luck to you bro, where-ever you are.


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    The people who think a 15 foot sea wall in Galveston is going to protect them despite ample opportunity to evacuate have made a choice. Are you arguing that FEMA should round up people and put them in concentration camps? You better adjust that tin foil.

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    Look, I have been telling everyone for weeks to prepare for something like this. A year ago I posted that a hurricane was headed for the Galveston-Houston area. Some people like Cecil Collins chose to take my advice, others chose to just mock me. Whatever, we are all grown adults who have to live with our own decisions, right?

    Good luck to you bro, where-ever you are.


    You predict a hurricane in the peak of hurricane season and now all of the sudden you're psychic? And that somehow it took some sort of extra-sensory perception to figure that the Gulf might be due for one? Damn, Dan....that's pretty funny.

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    You predict a hurricane in the peak of hurricane season and now all of the sudden you're psychic? And that somehow it took some sort of extra-sensory perception to figure that the Gulf might be due for one? Damn, Dan....that's pretty funny.
    You know it's a little more than that SW. I named New Orleans and Galveston-Houston in particular despite the fact that no hurricane has gone into the NW Gulf in some years. Next Hurricane season, I'll give you the opportunity to name the major metropolitan centers that will be affected by Hurricanes, and we'll see how well you do.

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    You know it's a little more than that SW. I named New Orleans and Galveston-Houston in particular despite the fact that no hurricane has gone into the NW Gulf in some years. Next Hurricane season, I'll give you the opportunity to name the major metropolitan centers that will be affected by Hurricanes, and we'll see how well you do.

    Unless you can show me a picture of you holding the winning ticket of that $250 million Mega Millions jackpot, I ain't buyin' it.

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    I predict there will be a hurricane next year probably on the gulf coast...

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    danny boy also predicted a Kerry victory brought on by a great progressive surge across the continent.

    BTW...I saw a loaf of bread priced at greater than $5 yesterday. Thus, my prediction of a bread shortage brought on by a major gulf coast hurricane has come true and my crystal balls are infalliable.

    That, or I went to a Central Market.

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    You know it's a little more than that SW. I named New Orleans and Galveston-Houston in particular despite the fact that no hurricane has gone into the NW Gulf in some years. Next Hurricane season, I'll give you the opportunity to name the major metropolitan centers that will be affected by Hurricanes, and we'll see how well you do.
    You're a ing moron. You predicted it? You're so full of . Is there anything you don't take credit for predicting? You want to see a real prediction? Check out my last post in my blog, and the date.

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    I theorize the hurricane strikes can be predicted using the circular representation of Phi, the Golden Ratio.

    However, I don't have the time or interest to prove it. You will have to take my word for it, and when I'm right give me proper credit.

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    I theorize the hurricane strikes can be predicted using the circular representation of Phi, the Golden Ratio.

    However, I don't have the time or interest to prove it. You will have to take my word for it, and when I'm right give me proper credit.
    Well, that's good enough for me.


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    danny boy also predicted a Kerry victory brought on by a great progressive surge across the continent.

    BTW...I saw a loaf of bread priced at greater than $5 yesterday. Thus, my prediction of a bread shortage brought on by a major gulf coast hurricane has come true and my crystal balls are infalliable.

    That, or I went to a Central Market.


    Gore won in 2000, if not for the Supreme Court being a Republican-controlled court, W wouldn't of even had a chance in 04 and Kerry would have been a moot point. Although I still contend that Kerry did win - history will prove me right eventually. I can't help it that the Republicans stole both elections. I just calls them as I sees them.

    Progressivism is the next big political movement, you just haven't realized it yet. Give it a couple years. You'll come around.

    Congratulations on your loaf of bread prediction. Amazing.

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    So your prediction was incorrect.

    Also, you have to factor in that the Illuminati and Bilderbergers wanted Kerry, so that's a 10% handicap right there.

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    So your prediction was incorrect.

    Also, you have to factor in that the Illuminati and Bilderbergers wanted Kerry, so that's a 10% handicap right there.
    I really think you believe that , but those of us in the sane world know that it's not hard to change e-votes with no paper trail. Especially when the E-voting companies are sympathetic to your cause and leave gapeing back doors for you to manipulate votes, but alas, I'm wasting key strokes, this requires critical thinking and you have yet shown to possess any.

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    Many Stuck on Way Out of Houston
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    HOUSTON (AP) -- Wilma Skinner would like to scream at the officials of this city. If only someone would pick up their phone....

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    With Hurricane Rita breathing down Houston's neck, those with cars were stuck in gridlock trying to get out. Those like Skinner -- poor, and with a broken-down car -- were simply stuck, and fuming at being abandoned, they say.

    ''All the banks are closed and I just got off work,'' said Thomas Visor, holding his sweaty paycheck as he, too, tried to get inside the store, where more than 100 people, all of them black or Hispanic, fretted in line. ''This is crazy. How are you supposed to evacuate a hurricane if you don't have money? Answer me that?''

    Some of those who did have money, and did try to get out, didn't get very far.

    Judie Anderson of La Porte, Texas, covered just 45 miles in 12 hours. She had been on the road since 10 p.m. Wednesday, headed toward Oklahoma, which by Thursday was still very far away.

    ''This is the worst planning I've ever seen,'' she said. ''They say, 'We've learned a lot from Hurricane Katrina.' Well, you couldn't prove it by me.''...
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    President Carter says Gore won 2000 election
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    Former U.S. president Jimmy Carter delivered a shocker at an American University panel in Washington Monday: RAW STORY has learned he told the crowd he was certain Al Gore won the 2000 presidential election.

    There is "no doubt in my mind that Gore won the election," the erstwhile President declared, saying the 2000 election process "failed abysmally."

    He also snubbed the Supreme Court for getting involved, saying it was "highly partisan."

    The NORC hand count done by the University of Chicago shows clearly that even if you ignore all of the clearly double-punched ballots--and there were around 50,000 of these and they were clearly meant to go to Gore--that Gore still won the election.

    NORC didn't say this: all they did was categorize each ballot and report the totals. So if a ballot had been marked "not counted" by the machine counts, they would examine the ballot and categorize it. Like "three corner hanging Chad for Gore" or "one corner hanging Chad for Bush."

    Their results found several thousand ballots that had clear votes--no hanging chads, no problems whatsoever--that the machines simply didn't count, possible because the ballot itself wasn't cut to spec. Counting those ballots, which were 100% undisputable, because they were punched just like the ballots that were counted--Gore won.

    Counting hanging chads marked for one candidate or another Gore won, in almost every combination you could find of how to determine the intent of the voter. The only way Bush won Florida in 2000 was if the only recounts were in the heavily democratic Counties as Gore had asked the court (And the Court ruled it would not do, and then instead extending the recount to ALL Counties).

    It appears the Democratic Counties actually counted their votes accurately, Gore NOT getting enough votes to overcome Bush's lead. The problem for Bush was in the GOP controlled Counties, it appears all of the GOP votes were counted BUT MANY OF THE DEMOCRATIC VOTE HAD NOT BEEN COUNTED.

    Thus Gore picked up the votes he needed to win NOT in the Democratic Counties but in the GOP controlled Counties (Thus Gore should have asked for a full-recount NOT a partial recount). Furthermore the only way Bush would have won Florida was the only one a Florida Judge said HE WOULD NOT HAVE PERMITTED.

    In short, the NORC count showed that if Florida law had been followed and all votes had been counted (don't say recount, because we are talking about votes that were not counted at all, much less recounted) Gore would have won the electoral votes.

    Remember, even the Supreme Court unanimously said that there were legally cast votes that were never counted in their Bush v Gore decision. But by a 5-4 margin, the Court ruled that the votes didn't have to be counted to decide the election.

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    Progressivism is the next big political movement, you just haven't realized it yet. .

    Dan...you are about as progressive as Cotton Mathers, Mr. Hurricane predictor....You are not progressive...you are a hysterical knee jerk alarmist/conspiracy theorist...that's not progressive.

    I'll make my prediction for you...You are going to end up as one of those guys that stands on a street corner holding a sign predicting that the world will end that day..

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    Dan...you are about as progressive as Cotton Mathers, Mr. Hurricane predictor....You are not progressive...you are a hysterical knee jerk alarmist/conspiracy theorist...that's not progressive.

    I'll make my prediction for you...You are going to end up as one of those guys that stands on a street corner holding a sign predicting that the world will end that day..


    People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones Whott.

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    Judie Anderson of La Porte, Texas, covered just 45 miles in 12 hours. She had been on the road since 10 p.m. Wednesday, headed toward Oklahoma, which by Thursday was still very far away.

    ''This is the worst planning I've ever seen,'' she said. ''They say, 'We've learned a lot from Hurricane Katrina.' Well, you couldn't prove it by me.''...
    I agree, they should have either ordered the mandatory evacuation 2 months ago or built more highways last week.

    Why is it that the idiots are the most often quoted?

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    I agree, they should have either ordered the mandatory evacuation 2 months ago or built more highways last week.
    Or, better yet, they should have completed development, testing, and deployment of a Star Trek type transporter system as soon as Rita reached Cat 5 status.

    Why is it that the idiots are the most often quoted?
    Because they most reflect the sensibilities of the media doing the interview.

    Y'know, someone with a little ingenuity and an updated version of Microsoft Maps and Streets could get out of Houston and all the way to Austin without ever getting on a major thoroughfare. And, do so in about 3 to 3 1/2 hours. I guarantee some of the roads I've used to get there and back are flowing just fine...a lot of them don't have names and aren't on any printed map.
    Last edited by Yonivore; 09-23-2005 at 08:33 AM.

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    Y'know, someone with a little ingenuity and an updated version of Microsoft Maps and Streets could get out of Houston and all the way to Austin without ever getting on a major thoroughfare. And, do so in about 3 to 3 1/2 hours. I guarantee some of the roads I've used to get there and back are flowing just fine...a lot of them don't have names and aren't on any printed map.
    The roads aren't on any map and yet the evacuees must be castigated for not using them?

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