Hillary explains her white privilege

[mingus]

Having kids isn't unusual in populations that have primarily agrarian economies....but it's easy to confuse Mexican immigrant issues with Mexican-American issues......Mexican immigrants are generally very hard working and depending on where they grew up, fairly well educated....Mexican Americans, in general, don't give the priority to education that other cultures necessarily do, even Mexican culture...at least, not in numbers.....perhaps that is more a symptom more of living in poverty than being a minority in America....

And I think it's to a significant degree self-inflicted.

Many of the first generation Mexican-Americans immigrated over here, wanting to just be able to live with the basic comforts that they weren't afforded in Mexico, like healthcare, running water, a roof over their head, food, safety, etc. Higher education, not necessarily, on that list. To many, just getting what we take for granted was enough. Those that did, and there's a lot, failed to impart some of the values that their 2nd generation kids would need.

[rmt]

"It's possible to lift oneself out of poverty with hard work"

bull . upward economic/social mobility in USA is declining, is not less than it is in Europe.

10Ms of people work hard in 1 or 2 ty jobs, and see no way to upward.

Even people with somewhat decent jobs are again going into serious debt, average credit card debt is over $10K, and their real income continues to decline.

I guess you disagree with Obama's rosy State of the Union speech, then?

[rmt]

boutons, you sound like Trump (i.e., "The American dream is dead...").

Would you consider voting for him? He is quite popular and the prospects for his candidacy are only growing.

How did you like Nikki Haley slamming Trump? These establishment types don't have a clue - they might as well be democrats.

[boutons_deux]

boutons, you sound like Trump (i.e., "The American dream is dead...").

you sound like an asshole

[boutons_deux]

I guess you disagree with Obama's rosy State of the Union speech, then?

Obama was comparing the progress these last 7 years from the Thieving Banksters Great Depression.

That was a very deep hole that 10Ms are still stuck in, with little hope to escape.

The Repugs blocked ALL attempts at fiscal stimulus that would have helped a faster, steeper recovery and have been been implementing austerity, esp in govt jobs, education, health, housing.

[DMX7]

you sound like an asshole

ad hominem

How did you like Nikki Haley slamming Trump? These establishment types don't have a clue - they might as well be democrats.

I hated it. In fact, people are saying the GOP picked her to give that speech just because she may be a VP candidate to counter Hillary's appeal to the women demographic in the 2016 general election. It's outrageous if you wanna know the truth.

[DMX7]

Obama was comparing the progress these last 7 years from the Thieving Banksters Great Depression.

That was a very deep hole that 10Ms are still stuck in, with little hope to escape.

The Repugs blocked ALL attempts at fiscal stimulus that would have helped a faster, steeper recovery and have been been implementing austerity, esp in govt jobs, education, health, housing.

You want to know the really backwards aspect of all this??? The GOP actually deserves credit for the recovery. Their philosophy of doing nothing and not stimulating the economy further has proven successful. In fact, we're actually in sequestration mode. No one can say the small stimulus Obama did way back in 2009 (ARRA) has led to all this growth (but it did help a little given it's relatively small scale). GOP can't take credit for it though because Obama is POTUS and they can't go around telling people that their historic level obstruction of congress is really to thank.

We could very well have the same great economy Obama is bragging about but with even high debt had we gotten much more stimulus.

[boutons_deux]

You want to know the really backwards aspect of all this??? The GOP actually deserves credit for the recovery. Their philosophy of doing nothing and not stimulating the economy further has proven successful.

you're full of

austerity, like sequestration, has never worked in a recession, esp not in a deep recession.

the Repug didn't "no nothing", they cuts jobs and spending everywhere they could, prolonging the depths of the recession and slowing recovery which is still not complete. We're still missing several million jobs

[DMX7]

you're full of

austerity, like sequestration, has never worked in a recession, esp not in a deep recession.

the Repug didn't "no nothing", they cuts jobs and spending everywhere they could, prolonging the depths of the recession and slowing recovery which is still not complete. We're still missing several million jobs

LMAO, you're twisting yourself like a pretzel to explain how Obama deserves credit for the economy but the economy actually sucks with "millions" of missing jobs. Get your story straight, Bou.

[boutons_deux]

LMAO, you're twisting yourself like a pretzel to explain how Obama deserves credit for the economy but the economy actually sucks with "millions" of missing jobs. Get your story straight, Bou.

You Lie

we have the same number of jobs we had before the recession, but that means we're missing the Ms of new jobs that should have been created without the recession, simply because population keeps increasing. the labor participation rate is lowest in decades.

Progress under Obama, in spite of Repug obstructing stimuli and ty austerity, has been good, but insufficient.

The incredible subtlety of my analysis obviously is way beyond you.

[DMX7]

Insufficient? Then why is he boasting and why are you defending his boasting?

[rmt]

Obama was comparing the progress these last 7 years from the Thieving Banksters Great Depression.

That was a very deep hole that 10Ms are still stuck in, with little hope to escape.

The Repugs blocked ALL attempts at fiscal stimulus that would have helped a faster, steeper recovery and have been been implementing austerity, esp in govt jobs, education, health, housing.

What about Obama's shovel ready jobs? LOL.

[Quetzal-X]

Why is it cut short? Where's the end and the second example? Why tie "white" to privilege?

Anyone, no matter the race, benefits from being born into a family that's economically stable OR emotionally nurturing (and neither precludes the other). Those migrant kids benefit from being born into an emotionally nurturing family and even though they might not be better off financially than others they are probably better off overall than families where there is money but no love.

What I object to is using race as a means to divide. When I look at Lebron James - do I say "Darn, what it must be to be born with such a body and talent" and envy him because he was or the money he has earned because of it? Should I use race and inject envy because blacks are genetically more suited (run faster, jump higher) to basketball than the typical short, skinny Asian? And aren't there millions of POOR white people who aren't privileged?

You must be new to amerikan history. Race has ALWAYS BEEN USED to divide in amerika and white supremacy WAS the LAW for the vast majority of US history to build the wealth and priveledge your honkey owners have been trained to dismiss as "unfortunate" or 'a long time ago". You would have been lynched in amerika for even giving your thoughts on this in 1776, the you talkin bout .

[Quetzal-X]

Can someone fill me in on how a Hispanic-American could reasonably point to "whitey" for his/her position in life? I really don't see a cause for it, like I do with African-Americans, who can point to an almost three century period in American History where, because of oppression & inequality by Whites, they had no/we allowed no cultural traditions conducive to individual success (i.e. literacy, education, family etc.), and were essentially thrown into the fire of a society, as free & equal for the first time, that values those traditions only about 50 years ago.

I'm genuinely interested in what their beef is, and if it's fair or not, with whitey. Is it more of a cultural issue? Cubans are largely responsible for building up one of the biggest markets, in Miami, in the U.S. I know a lot of successful Cubans, and not too many poor ones. I know a lot of successful Mexicans, but a lot of poor ones, too. I might be ignorant (if I am then educate me), but the biggest issues I see with Mexican-American culture (of which btw I've been immersed with heavily, to mostly positive effect, my life), that has made its way here for a lot Mexican-Americans are:

Alcohol/partying by adolescents.
Their girls are horny as , great lays, good-looking...and will you, encourage you to them, raw...

For real tho, "bad decision-making" like teenage pregnancy, early drinking, etc. stem from the same thing: I quoted "bad decision making" because teenage pregnancy, in poorer (where most immigrant families come from) parts of Mexico and probably South America in general, is not necessarily unwelcomed: in those parts, a new addition to the family brings further together/strengthens the family bond, which in regions where there is such huge discrepancy b/w rich & poor, and hardly any potential for upwards mobility, family is all you've got. Well, aside from drinking, screwing, soccer and religion. But education doesn't matter as much to poor Mexicans & South Americans because in a lot of those countries, in the poor areas, well they don't even have access to decent, if any education due to unfair & discriminatory appropriation of Govt. funds.

So they don't have much of a tradition of learning, either. But they DO have a strong family bond, and I really think that that puts them on far more equal playing field to Whites compared to African-Americans. A strong family tradition, kept away from Blacks for centuries by Whites, is the most important predictor of a kid's level achievment as an adult.

I think Democrats' endorsement of Hispanic-Americans to use White Privilige as an excuse is dishonest and can have potentially harmful, and in the worst case, disastrous consequences for Hispanic-American culture. When I see a first generation Hispanic-American who's been here for 20 years and STILL can't speak an intelligible word of English, I think of the opportunities he/she has SQUANDERED. When, I see SECOND generation Hispanic-American who can't speak an intelligible word of English, I think of the opportunities he/sh has SQUANDERED. And I've come across much too many of them--not because I can't understand or I'm offended by them, because I can communicate just fine in Spanish, but because they're squandering away opportunities for themselves & their children. That, and other cultural behaviors they've brought over that don't belong here if one wants a fair shot at making good for yourself, like excessive drinking & particularly drinking at a such young age, teenage pregnancy, and lack of educational concern, are what's hurting them. The prescription is not blaming White Privilege, it's self-analysis as a culture, or risk becoming a culture of blame & govt. dependence.

The honkeys bringing over fake jesus for starters. Hard to deny mexicans are "devout" catholics. What can be expected for following a false Christ? The bible says there would be false christs that were meant to deceive. The Roman cath ch has a lot of blame in this. Excessive drinking-oh well, when in Rome. ing errbody oh well-When in Rome. Not caring about education ESPECIALLY education of self, who cares because -when in rome. Mexicans are in a state of confusion following fake roman jesus. If christians want to claim some kind of "good'--Then ing teach the bibles word , NOT the ty twisting words of interpretations. According to the bible, he's jealous as a mother er comprende? He's not gonna like you whites obscuring HIS light? You whites are gonna be in chains according to the bible anyway lol You whites are expert ing liars as well . Forked ing tongued devils God is gonna make yall pay. Why would whites wanna be christains anyway if god is gonna have you bent over sun up sun down in the tobacco , cotton fields?

[TheSanityAnnex]

It's too bad the forum doesn't give Avante the Quetzal treatment, he'd have left years ago.

[Quetzal-X]

Why not just be honest about using christianity to confuse and control browns? Why lie about the most important thing in most peoples lives-GOD?

[InRareForm]

lol she picked her words very carefully... inside she was like really you had to ask that f'n question?

[boutons_deux]

What about Obama's shovel ready jobs? LOL.

what about them? His stimulus created and/or saved Ms of jobs.

And what about his bailing out GM and Chrysler? That turned out horribly.

[boutons_deux]

Insufficient? Then why is he boasting and why are you defending his boasting?

He did what he could given the do ented Repug conspiracy, which was then BLATANT (one eg: McConnell saying the Repug priority was to make Obama a one-term Pres. Actually governing is never a Repug priority), to obstruct their hated n!gg@ at every turn, which they did and still do, even promising to undo everything he did, no matter how much undoing s over Americans and America.

In comparison with the pitiful job un-creation under 8 years of "the MBA Whitehouse", he should and did point out the facts of his years?

[CosmicCowboy]

You Lie

we have the same number of jobs we had before the recession, but that means we're missing the Ms of new jobs that should have been created without the recession, simply because population keeps increasing. the labor participation rate is lowest in decades.

Progress under Obama, in spite of Repug obstructing stimuli and ty austerity, has been good, but insufficient.

The incredible subtlety of my analysis obviously is way beyond you.

Boo totally misses the demographic shift driving the jobs number. The population is increasing with mostly poor broke s that can't drive a consumer driven economy while the baby boomer generation realizes it hasn't saved enough for retirement and cuts back on spending to save and consolidate capital. The US economy may not see 4% GDP again until the mid 2020's.

[boutons_deux]

"The population is increasing with mostly poor broke s"

what evidence do you have? except for your blatant prejudice against anybody who doesn't have your kind of money?

why has real household income been stagnant since the Repugs came to power in 1980?

why has median household income dropped by 4% since 2007?

why do the Repugs REFUSE to increase Fed minimum wage to a living wage level?

... good paying jobs, or any jobs, aren't available for college grads. 25%+ college grads are in jobs that don't demand a college degree.

why has inequality left 10Ms in poverty and public assistance, with many of them on full-time employment with ty wages and no benefits?

10Ms are rent-stressed with rent taking 40%+ of their income as the capitalists buy up residential properties to rent for the cash flow.

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STEM?

"in computer and information science and in engineering, U.S. colleges graduate 50 percent more students than are hired into those fields each year." It also concluded that there isn't a shortage of talent -- and if there was, wages would have risen rather than remaining flat over the period in question.

Looking at the future, the report indicates that there will be three new high-tech degree holders for every two high-tech jobs over the next decade. There are already millions of unemployed college grads."

http://www.eetimes.com/author.asp?se...doc_id=1319039

[CosmicCowboy]

"The population is increasing with mostly poor broke s"

what evidence do you have? except for your blatant prejudice against anybody who doesn't have your kind of money?

why has real household income been stagnant since the Repugs came to power in 1980?

why has median household income dropped by 4% since 2007?

why do the Repugs REFUSE to increase Fed minimum wage to a living wage level?

... good paying jobs, or any jobs, aren't available for college grads. 25%+ college grads are in jobs that don't demand a college degree.

why has inequality left 10Ms in poverty and public assistance, with many of them on full-time employment with ty wages and no benefits?

10Ms are rent-stressed with rent taking 40%+ of their income as the capitalists buy up residential properties to rent for the cash flow.

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STEM?

"in computer and information science and in engineering, U.S. colleges graduate 50 percent more students than are hired into those fields each year." It also concluded that there isn't a shortage of talent -- and if there was, wages would have risen rather than remaining flat over the period in question.

Looking at the future, the report indicates that there will be three new high-tech degree holders for every two high-tech jobs over the next decade. There are already millions of unemployed college grads."

http://www.eetimes.com/author.asp?se...doc_id=1319039

in other words the majority of the younger population growth doesn't have the money to drive a consumer driven economy. That's what I said.

[boutons_deux]

in other words the majority of the younger population growth doesn't have the money to drive a consumer driven economy. That's what I said.

... being poor doesn't make them s, except if it's slander from Repugs and/or Christian Taliban, who think being poor means you're a fraud, cheater, lazy, moocher, taker, and God doesn't love your sinning ass.

[CosmicCowboy]

... being poor doesn't make them s, except if it's slander from Repugs and/or Christian Taliban, who think being poor means you're a fraud, cheater, lazy, moocher, taker, and God doesn't love your sinning ass.

Boo, you're a .

[Winehole23]

so are you, CC. and so am I.

everyone swings their like it matters in this forum, but it doesn't.