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    I'm sorry if I all over this thread.

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    People are deluded if they think we're beating the Warriors, or even the Clippers and Thunder with a two man attack (Kawhi + LMA) that relegates everyone else to a role player.

    Every elite team has a better offensive 1-2 punch than us. Curry + Klay, Lebron + Kyrie, Blake + Paul, Durant + Westbrook. It could even be argued we have the weakest "Big 3" of the elite teams. We aren't winning jack if Tony is relegated to a 9-10ppg role player who just "Gibs the bawl to Kiwi ."

    If Manu and Duncan were 5 years younger, by all means, Tony should be relegated. But like it or not, he's our 3rd best offensive player and he NEEDS to be a threat. This is basically Kawhi's rookie season as "the guy." He hasn't peaked yet offensively. Like other elite offensive players (most of whom were the offensive guy their first day in the league), it took them 2-3 years to really become that guy who can carry a team on their shoulders. Kawhi isn't there yet, and is probably a season or two off from hitting his offensive peak. LMA's been great, but that 33% shooting in last year's playoffs will be a worry. We need a 3rd guy who is a threat to drop 15-20 points somewhat consistently, and the only player really capable of that is Tony (when healthy).

    And no, this ain't about re ed crew feuds. Kawhi is still the best overall player on this team, but he's going to need 2 or 3 guns by his side if we're to win this thing. Kawhi isn't just at the offensive level where he can average 30-35 points over a playoff series and make up the difference for teammates under-performing. Curry, Lebron, Durant and Westbrook are all at that level.
    The success of this season still rests with the big three as much as it ever has despite the great offseason acquisitions and them exceeding all expectations.

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    dabom is really hurting tonight.

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    Rk Player Age G GS MP FG FGA ▾ FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
    1 Kawhi Leonard 23 7 7 250 52 109 .477 11 26 .423 41 83 .494 .528 27 35 .771 13 39 52 18 8 4 15 18 142
    2 Tony Parker 32 7 7 210 33 91 .363 0 9 .000 33 82 .402 .363 10 17 .588 4 19 23 25 2 0 11 14 76
    3 Tim Duncan 38 7 7 250 53 90 .589 0 1 .000 53 89 .596 .589 19 34 .559 19 59 78 23 9 10 7 26 125
    4 Boris Diaw 32 7 0 198 34 71 .479 4 18 .222 30 53 .566 .507 9 13 .692 13 30 43 25 5 3 9 24 81

    How was Tony last year in the playoffs as the 2nd/3rd most FGs? gots. /thread
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    As ElNono said, tony wasn't injured last playoffs or else he wouldn't have played in the Euros or whatever the it was. Tony healthy didn't pull through you got cucks.
    Last year

    Was LMA in his last year's lineup? His presence creates something called spacing. Why do you think Tony is having his best shooting season in years? Magic?

    The starters can't play "da bootiful game " very effectively, so if you want them to best other elite starting lineups, they're going to have grind-it-out with pick-and-rolls, post ups, mid-range shots, and penetration, which Tony still excels at.

    But yeah, let's bring Manu and Patty in there cuz ball movement. at those two checking Klay and Curry.

    This is the way it works this year:

    Starters: Grind-it-out.

    Bench: Beautiful game.

    Sure, you can stagger lineups, but I'd rather have our best defensive unit on the floor for the most minutes in the playoffs rather than lineups who can entertain you with ball movement.

    2014 was nearly 2 years ago. Get over it.

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    How exactly got? Srs.

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    Last year

    Was LMA in his last year's lineup? His presence creates something called spacing. Why do you think Tony is having his best shooting season in years? Magic?

    The starters can't play "da bootiful game " very effectively, so if you want them to best other elite starting lineups, they're going to have grind-it-out with pick-and-rolls, post ups, mid-range shots, and penetration, which Tony still excels at.

    But yeah, let's bring Manu and Patty in there cuz ball movement. at those two checking Klay and Curry.

    This is the way it works this year:

    Starters: Grind-it-out.

    Bench: Beautiful game.

    Sure, you can stagger lineups, but I'd rather have our best defensive unit on the floor for the most minutes in the playoffs rather than lineups who can entertain you with ball movement.

    2014 was nearly 2 years ago. Get over it.
    This was just last year stupid . And I didn't read your stupid reply. You don't make sense. I'm done with this ty thread.

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    Tony Parker is the best PG in the league.

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    This was just last year stupid . And I didn't read your stupid reply. You don't make sense. I'm done with this ty thread.
    Yeah, Kawhi outplaying Lebron in the Finals was "last year" too, before the next year in which he got outplayed by Matt Barnes.

    Last year

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    Because nobody is talking about last year's Tony Parker. This year's version looks a lot better in all facets of his game. For some reason, that bothers you so you keep harping on last year's stats as if someone still gives a .

    We've all had bad takes Dabom. Take the L and move on. Don't continue to bury yourself. And fwiw, the Spurs can't win a championship without a healthy and productive Tony Parker. Paddy isn't in Tony's stratosphere in terms of running the offense.

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    That got hotkey sure is getting a workout tonight.

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    OP is a got.

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    lol hotkey krew

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    we're winning anything with Parker reduced to Derek Fisher are massively stupid.
    And how many games the Spurs are going to win with Kawhi reduced to this role of taking less than 10 shots and scoring 7 points in 34 minutes?

    It's obvious that Kawhi's not a finished product but...Is this the best way to develop his offense game, getting less and less shots?

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    And how many games the Spurs are going to win with Kawhi reduced to this role of taking less than 10 shots and scoring 7 points in 34 minutes?

    It's obvious that Kawhi's not a finished product but...Is this the best way to develop his offense game, getting less and less shots?
    The '07 Spurs, a championship team, had Duncan only taking about 14 shots per game. Kawhi taking 10 shots per game isn't typical usage. When you factor in this team's pace, team ball style, and the amount of minutes their top players have played, Kawhi's usage is fine vis a vis his development. Also, Kawhi averages the most front court touches on the team aside from Parker (who would obviously have the most since he's a PG). On that point, Tony's front court touches are relatively low compared to other starting PGs.

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    The '07 Spurs, a championship team, had Duncan only taking about 14 shots per game. Kawhi taking 10 shots per game isn't typical usage. When you factor in this team's pace, team ball style, and the amount of minutes their top players have played, Kawhi's usage is fine vis a vis his development. Also, Kawhi averages the most front court touches on the team aside from Parker (who would obviously have the most since he's a PG). On that point, Tony's front court touches are relatively low compared to other starting PGs.
    So the Spurs will play Parker like they did in 2007, Kawhi will take less than 10 shots per game, Parker more than 18...and we'll win many games, nice.

    Except Parker's 34 not 26 like in 2007, Kawhi's 24 not 31 like Tim in 2007. Good luck with that.

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    The '07 Spurs, a championship team, had Duncan only taking about 14 shots per game. Kawhi taking 10 shots per game isn't typical usage. When you factor in this team's pace, team ball style, and the amount of minutes their top players have played, Kawhi's usage is fine vis a vis his development.
    It's obvious that 31 years old Tim didn't need to develop his offense like Kawhi. Also, I disagree with you about the 10 FGA.
    You can't help a player like Kawhi to take the next level in his game with less than 10 FGA per game treating him like he's just in his 3rd season...Sorry, but that sounds stupid.

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    Kawhi averages the most front court touches on the team aside from Parker (who would obviously have the most since he's a PG). On that point, Tony's front court touches are relatively low compared to other starting PGs.
    Kawhi averages less FGA than Parker per minute on the court this season and that isn't related to Parker's PG spot.

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    It's not even about shot attempts really. Parking Leonard at the 3 point line is a waste of his talent and development. It's ridiculous that he goes 5-6 minutes without even touching the ball. Many here kept saying it was perfect to save some of his energy or because he's our best 3 point shooter. Most nights he can get it going any time he wants but nights when he's struggling the only play they run for him his the alley oop.

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    It's not even about shot attempts really. Parking Leonard at the 3 point line is a waste of his talent and development. It's ridiculous that he goes 5-6 minutes without even touching the ball. Many here kept saying it was perfect to save some of his energy or because he's our best 3 point shooter. Most nights he can get it going any time he wants but nights when he's struggling the only play they run for him his the alley oop.
    Well, midnightpulp thinks that's the best way to develop his game. Parking him as spot-up 3 shooter, take less than 10 FGA, and Parker scoring 31 points every game.

    That's a truly sustainable ways to win games in the long run...Treat Parker like he's 26 now, and Kawhi like he's 30.

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    I know, people troll Apa and dabom for their bad threads but what's the difference with this thread?

    OP makes a thread to celebrate that the best player on the team will be reduced to the corner three and less than 10 FGA per game...This board is ridiculous.

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    So sensitive.

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    So stupid.

    Unsustainable.

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    So stupid.

    Unsustainable.
    Who says it's meant to be sustained?

    Who is calling for it to be sustained?

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