Spurs v Dubs from a Dubs Forum perspective

[sasaint]

They are actually discussing basketball, which is a nice chance of pace compared to the short bus.


Lots of interesting takes, lots of delusion too, but what I found particularly telling was this:





I know (or at least I've always had the feeling) that Pop was being careful, when playing against likely playoffs opponents, not to show too much of his hand. There's a huge difference between having 2 days or 4 months to adapt... So I'm not sure the Spurs are going to be giving their best effort, not in terms of players' energy but in terms of coaching. Maybe a few tricks by Pop here and there to test the waters. But I'm also expecting to see a lot of weird line-ups out there, and the Spurs (and probably Warriors as well) using their regular, well-do ented plays.

Both coaches, of course, will coach to win. But neither coach is likely to reveal any post season strategy. Game will likely be hard fought, but only another regular season game in the final analysis. The only extra incentive at stake, obviously, is the #1 seed, which is why both coaches will coach hard, and both teams will play hard. But no real "wrinkles". I personally will be a little surprised if Boban gets any time.

[boutons_deux]

"not to show too much of his hand"

not this , again.

in the season, the Spurs just play their game

in the playoffs, they obviously prepare for specific teams

every team knows what every other team does, so there's no "hand" to hide.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

"not to show too much of his hand"

not this , again.

in the season, the Spurs just play their game

in the playoffs, they obviously prepare for specific teams

every team knows what every other team does, so there's no "hand" to hide.

I agree, the Spurs are in it to win it. Pop has hardly screwed around with lineups this season. Like I mentioned, the Spurs are so deep have such great chemistry, almost any lineup can compete. That is something the Spurs really have never had before.

[Kawhitstorm]

A hard double on Kawhi on the catch? That's a terrible defense. He's MUCH more likely to find the open man with his head up and his dribble intact. You double Kawhi when he puts the ball down.

That's Carlisle game plan against Kawhi: make him pick up his dribble & be a playmaker.

In any case, the Worriers switch when guarding the PnR like the Mavs but they actually don't double post-up players at the elbow (only deep in the paint).

I also think the offense will run through LMA b/c Kawhi has to expend a lot of energy on defense & LMA also has the matchup advantage.

As far as guarding Curry, the Spurs have had success against him by meeting him at half court & pressuring him away from the top of the key where he like to do most of his work. He usually commits most of his turnover when he's about to get trapped by the sideline (or driving into a crowd & kicking) thus it's also best to funnel him towards the sideline & use it as an additional defender. Also, when it comes to guarding his high PnP the Cavs had success switching it in the Finals & making him take contested 3s or running him off the line since Tristan is a mobile big but got torched when they tried to trap him using Mozgov (he has slow feet thus can't switch). Whoever is guarding Bogut should also camp in the paint (unless he's the one setting the screen for Curry) thus if Draymond tries to postup on the switches or if Curry tries to go to the rim when he's run off the 3 point line there will be someone protecting the rim (if he completes a lob, oh well).

They are probably going to try & exploit Tim's slow feet so I don't think he'll play more than 20 minutes or in the 4th quarter when they have their "Death" line-up. West/Diaw are going to be vital & I wouldn't be surprised if Fathead plays to combat Livingston (Fathead needs to ball out against the Suns/Lakers if he wants minutes).

[I. Hustle]

"not to show too much of his hand"

not this , again.

in the season, the Spurs just play their game

in the playoffs, they obviously prepare for specific teams

every team knows what every other team does, so there's no "hand" to hide.

Agree. It's not like the Spurs change a lot up. Pop messes with lineups but not for the other team's benefit. He is just checking to see what works. This season he doesn't seem to need to mess with the lineups too much. I think he goes for the W this game. Why mess around when it could mean HCA.

The Warriors aren't scrubs and we aren't going to run them out of the gym like some people think but I do think we can win the season series. I just want to see who wins the duel between Kawhi and Steph.

[DPG21920]

Doubling Kawhi is something more and more teams are doing so it's not a ridiculous notion. In addition to that, with Patty/Danny not doing so well from 3, it certainly has the makings of a "make them prove it" strategy.

[Kawhitstorm]

Doubling Kawhi is something more and more teams are doing so it's not a ridiculous notion. In addition to that, with Patty/Danny not doing so well from 3, it certainly has the makings of a "make them prove it" strategy.

Except the Warriors DON'T double at the elbow or wing (where Kawhi operates), they left Barnes/Iggy (even Klay/Curry on switches) on an island against Bron in the Finals & only doubled when he was deep in the paint. (Durant murders them b/c of this defensive strategy)

[DPG21920]

I was referring to their fans discussing the strategy and the reasonableness around the idea.

[will_spurs]

No, because most of us agree OKC would beat us if they had HC advantage against the Spurs. We acknowledge that. And even with HC, OKC could possibly beat the Spurs. Most fans here don't live in the denial. We know which teams are capable of beating the Spurs.

Actually if you read the thread on the Warriors forum you will see that quite a few posters take the Spurs very seriously. Don't be fooled by some of the quotes in this thread.

[TheDoctor]

This was gold:

Their bench frontcourt is Diaw and West. If we get Barnes back and use him at the 4, he will have a matchup advantage against either of them.

[raybies]

Read through the first four pages, no real mention of Boris and the advantage we have there. A couple posters seem to think we'll play Duncan and Aldridge against their death lineup. It's been awhile but I don't remember even green being able to stop him in the low post much less Aldridge.

[DPG21920]

A lot of the takes aren't that "hot". The teams aren't far apart and thinking SA has an answer for everything is foolish. You'd think most of you would bet on SA sweeping GS because we have an answer for everything they do.

Spurs have a lot of answers & a lot of what GS does we match up well with. Even with that, GS does those things so well it might not matter.

LMA is going to be a huge key in that series if we get there. We will see if he can come through

[SpurPadre]

They are actually discussing basketball, which is a nice chance of pace compared to the short bus.


Lots of interesting takes, lots of delusion too, but what I found particularly telling was this:





I know (or at least I've always had the feeling) that Pop was being careful, when playing against likely playoffs opponents, not to show too much of his hand. There's a huge difference between having 2 days or 4 months to adapt... So I'm not sure the Spurs are going to be giving their best effort, not in terms of players' energy but in terms of coaching. Maybe a few tricks by Pop here and there to test the waters. But I'm also expecting to see a lot of weird line-ups out there, and the Spurs (and probably Warriors as well) using their regular, well-do ented plays.

THIS. Which is why I expect TP to mainly guard Curry in the regular season while Pop has Green and/or Kawhi on him in the playoffs with TP on Barnes. I do expect a heavy dose of West in the regular season against them as part of testing the waters.

[Kawhitstorm]

Read through the first four pages, no real mention of Boris and the advantage we have there. A couple posters seem to think we'll play Duncan and Aldridge against their death lineup. It's been awhile but I don't remember even green being able to stop him in the low post much less Aldridge.

Actually, Boris/Draymond usually have canceled out each other in the past: Boris can't punk him in the post & Draymond can't blow past him. If Boris can neutralize Draymond whenever he's on the floor then it's a win for the Spurs (West is also quick enough to not get blown by & Draymond can't take advantage of the West/Diaw lineup b/c he doesn't have the size advantage like other frontlines like Noah/Taj or Kanter........maybe Ezeli might cause a problem on the offensive boards)

[TheDoctor]

Read through the first four pages, no real mention of Boris and the advantage we have there. A couple posters seem to think we'll play Duncan and Aldridge against their death lineup. It's been awhile but I don't remember even green being able to stop him in the low post much less Aldridge.

One of them posters actually brought up the notion that it was the opposite, that it was LMA who had torched Raymond in their previous matchups (Worriers vs Blazers).

[All Mighty Janitor]

My problem was them calling Parker, Manu, and Duncan to old to do anything offensively and that the spurs were healthy against the Clippers which is obviously bogus. Besides that, they have lots of confidence in their team; some of it is over confidence, but that's to be expected as they are very good.

[HarlemHeat37]

All meaningless until we see at least 2 games, tbh..the 1st game will be like a sparring session IMO..after the 2nd game, we'll at least have an idea of advantages/disadvantages, to an extent..

Pop rarely shows his cards during the regular season, particularly regarding defensive assignments and strategy..I'll bet anything that most people here will question some of his defensive moves following the 1st game, especially if the Spurs lose..the first game will be largely meaningless, outside of the standings..

[TrainOfThought5]

A lot of the takes aren't that "hot". The teams aren't far apart and thinking SA has an answer for everything is foolish. You'd think most of you would bet on SA sweeping GS because we have an answer for everything they do.

Spurs have a lot of answers & a lot of what GS does we match up well with. Even with that, GS does those things so well it might not matter.

LMA is going to be a huge key in that series if we get there. We will see if he can come through

I honestly believe SA wins in 5. 6 tops. We're gonna shock some people *IN THE PLAYOFFS* i expect this upcoming game to be a glorified scrimmage in which pop gives little to no cross matchups, and sticks to the regular rotation.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

I wouldn't doubt if Kerr shows up on Monday to coach the Warriors. His presence on the bench necessary to give the Dubs a win.

[Spurtacular]

I wouldn't doubt if Kerr shows up on Monday to coach the Warriors. His presence on the bench necessary to give the Dubs a win.

You must have a drama shortage in your life.

[Mr. Body]

Warriors currently wrecking Chicago away after wrecking Cleveland away. Any skid they were on looks over, and they may be even better.

[r0drig0lac]

watching the Bulls game, all players of gsw have become great shooters (regardless of the defense)

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I can see Sean Livingston and even players like Ezili and Barnes causing the Spurs issues.

[NASpurs]

I can see Sean Livingston and even players like Ezili and Barnes causing the Spurs issues.

Well no , and I can see West, Diaw and others cause problems. Both teams are good.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Well no , and I can see West, Diaw and others cause problems. Both teams are good.

Diaw has the potential to cause problems but he can be oddly passive at times. If anything they have Green who is going to be a handful.

As concerned as SA will be with Curry/Klay I can see Iggy and the rest be the ones who hurt them more. Spurs have been shaky in key road games this year.