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    Will Barton will be to expensive imo. A lot of teams have inquired about him already apparently. A late 1st-round pick & Bertans or any other Euro-stash would not be enough imo.
    I mean, there isn't a whole ton that I wouldn't be willing to add into the trade not counting core players and a third first-rounder. I actually don't think Denver will deal him, as they have him under control for three years. But if they do move him, they're not going to get a huge return.

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    I'd love an extra dependable shooter to bail out Green when he hits one of his Starksian dry spells.

    I would also love to get Beli back.

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    Spurs are taxpayers, so 125%.

    Jimmer was waived, so his contract can't be traded.

    Bonner has a virtual no-trade clause.

    Not certain, but I believe that Bonner and Butler would only count for the 900k or so that is paid by the Spurs. The portion of their salary reimbursed by the league doesn't count in trade calculations, IIRC. Could be wrong about that.
    Thanks Mel

    EDIT: I thought Jimmer's contract is guaranteed and still counts towards the cap, so the Spurs could call him up from the D-League and trade that deal. IIRC, this actually does phase out if he's called up by another team and signs a new contract, no?

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    I'd rather keep developing Simmons and Fathead over bringing in a 34 year old having a down year. Progress stopper.

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    I mean, there isn't a whole ton that I wouldn't be willing to add into the trade not counting core players and a third first-rounder. I actually don't think Denver will deal him, as they have him under control for three years. But if they do move him, they're not going to get a huge return.
    Didn't they trade Fournier on his rookie contract for Affalo then saved face by flipping Affalo for Barton

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    Thanks Mel

    EDIT: I thought Jimmer's contract is guaranteed and still counts towards the cap, so the Spurs could call him up from the D-League and trade that deal. IIRC, this actually does phase out if he's called up by another team and signs a new contract, no?
    Jimmer's deal is dead money that can't be used for anything at this point. That was true from the moment he was (gloriously) waived. Another team signing him has no effect on his dead-money, since he was a min contract.

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    Didn't they trade Fournier on his rookie contract for Affalo then saved face by flipping Affalo for Barton
    Yeah, they traded Fournier and Marble to get Afflalo back. The Nuggets are stupid in that they keep getting and reupping middling players, creating log-jams and lowering their ceilings. They usually love them too much to trade, which is why I don't see Barton going anywhere.

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    Nobody wants a 38 year old pile of bones
    Respect manu, este vato

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    I never trade Bertans by Barton

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    Korver has "Spur" written all over him. I wish there's some kind of way we can get him without giving up rotation players.

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    Thanks Mel

    EDIT: I thought Jimmer's contract is guaranteed and still counts towards the cap, so the Spurs could call him up from the D-League and trade that deal. IIRC, this actually does phase out if he's called up by another team and signs a new contract, no?
    When they waived him and he cleared waivers that ended the relationship, except for paying him his guaranteed money. All rights to him ended.

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    Jimmer's deal is dead money that can't be used for anything at this point. That was true from the moment he was (gloriously) waived. Another team signing him has no effect on his dead-money, since he was a min contract.
    When they waived him and he cleared waivers that ended the relationship, except for paying him his guaranteed money. All rights to him ended.
    thanks

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    I'd rather the Spurs go after Troy Daniels. He is a knockdown three point shooter and clutch.

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    Might be intrigued for a Diaw for Korver swap, and promoting Butler as the small ball 4. High risk low return move though, especially if Boris current play is just him in hibernating mode waiting for post season to begin.

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    But imagining a LMA, Butler, Leonard, Korver/Green, and Mills, that's just a crazy 3 pt spacing galore that you can imagine on.

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    No thanks, he's done. Trust in Patty and Green for playoffs, they will be ready.

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    I wouldn't trade Bertans for Barton either,the guy has great potential

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    Might be intrigued for a Diaw for Korver swap, and promoting Butler as the small ball 4. High risk low return move though, especially if Boris current play is just him in hibernating mode waiting for post season to begin.
    Unless a trade overwhelmingly favors the Spurs, most guys aren't tradeable because of team chemistry\loyalty and as Pop says, "corporate knowledge". Diaw is one of them. I'd say the BIG 3, Kawhi, LaMarcus, Patty, Diaw, Green and West fit this category.

    The only reason I didn't put in Bonner, is he'd be included in a trade to make the money work, but you know he'd be waived or retire and end up back with the Spurs in some capacity within a couple weeks.

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    Here is a realistic trade:

    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hu3qrpl

    Aldridge for Horford and Korver.

    McCallum gets waived.

    Horford is smaller than Aldridge, but is a quicker player. Korver adds the Belinelli that the Spurs are missing.

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    I like Barton too but it's too late to get him. Dude is still young and he is locked to a very cheap deal for this season and the next 2. They would ask a ton for him.

    SA needs to find the next Barton/Middleton. A dude that was seen as a throw in and ended up as a nice player.

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    Here is a realistic trade:

    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hu3qrpl

    Aldridge for Horford and Korver.

    McCallum gets waived.

    Horford is smaller than Aldridge, but is a quicker player. Korver adds the Belinelli that the Spurs are missing.
    Do think the Hawks would do that in a heartbeat. LMA is better than Horford and locked up. But there's no way I want Horford's next contract without having another big already locked up to play next to him. He's only appealing as a replacement for Tim the SL, not as a replacement for LMA or at the cost of Green.
    Last edited by Chinook; 02-12-2016 at 10:00 AM.

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    He looks done. Had two surgeries this offseason and is 35
    Right up our alley. Marco was done as well as was Boris.


    We can rebuild him, we have the technology. We can make him better than he was.. better... stronger... faster..

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    Right up our alley. Marco was done as well as was Boris.


    We can rebuild him, we have the technology. We can make him better than he was.. better... stronger... faster..
    Yep.

    Speaking of Boris, could the Hawks waive Korver (in a Bud-Pop wink-wink deal) then the Spurs pick Korver up the way they did Boris?

    Could that solve the cap problems?

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    Yep.

    Speaking of Boris, could the Hawks waive Korver (in a Bud-Pop wink-wink deal) then the Spurs pick Korver up the way they did Boris?

    Could that solve the cap problems?
    What's in it for Atlanta?

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