All Hail Caes...ummm...Hugo Chavez!

[smeagol]

Chavez may have his difference with the * administration, and maybe he has a right to be, after all, a CIA-led coupe against Chavez has already been tried once, and a much publicized terrorism threat by Pat Robertson against the Venezuelian leader went virtually unnoticed by the W.H..

Chavez does not have a problem with the Administration. He has a problem with America because he is a stupid communist.

Pat Robertson's glitch was not a terrorist threat. It was merely a stupid comment from a senile old man

[jochhejaam]

Pat Robertson's glitch was not a terrorist threat. It was merely a stupid comment from a senile old man

I would call it more of a Freudian slip from an old man.

[smeagol]

I would call it more of a Freudian slip from an old man.

joch, I know you think highly of Pat, but this is not his first Fruedian slip.

[jochhejaam]

joch, I know you think highly of Pat, but this is not his first Fruedian slip.

I like what Operation Blessing does and keep my feelings for this ministry separate from Pat.
I don't llike throwing the baby out with the bath water.

By Freudian slip I meant that he was serious about his thoughts on having Chavez assasinated by our government, a position I did/do not support.
That being the case I also said, in essence, that I would not be disappointed to wake up and find out that Chavez had been overturned or disposed of by his own people.

[Nbadan]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? Do you know ANYTHING about Chavez?? CIA-led coupe??? it was HIS OWN PEOPLE! Do you know how many marches went on before that aledged coupe?? Hundreds of thousands marched in opposition to Chavez, marches that would put your little anti-war demonstration march to shame!! Do a little research before you go on spewing opinion as if it was fact! You just lost serious credibility Nbadan!

It's easy to tell which political class you support in Venazuela. Yeah, Chavez was so hated by the majority that they went and re-elected him again anyway, and don't cry to me about crooked elections because these shoulders are all cried out on that one.

[Nbadan]

To a certain extent I believe in playing by the rules the enemy abides by which translates to not playing by the rules.

You bring up a very good point. The Iranians-Kurds were also allegedly using mus gas and maybe even nerve gas.

[Nbadan]

Doesn't matter if he's sending crude oil, gasoline, or stuffed panda bears. It is nothing more than the logical incremental supplier supplying incremental demand.

And "Venezuela's crude oil prices among the lowest" isn't a function of Chavez doing any favors for America, it's because the bulk of Venezuela's supply is heavy sour, and a great deal of it is what is refered to as "super-heavy", almost a bitumen like consistency.

I'm not sure what you are trying to get at here, Dan - other than reaching for any type of implication you can that there is some right wing conspiracy at work.

It's a bit more than incremental. Chavez knows that the U.S. consumer market needs to be reassured after the gas crisis caused by both Katrina and Rita. Yes, physically the delivery of these additional million barrels are just a logical suppy and demand step, but with this PR move by Chavez, the market gets a short-term reassurance that in times like these, there are suppliers who are willing and able to step up to the plate. The Saudis tried to increase production and have so far been unable.

We still have many refinerys closed in the Beaumont-Lake Charles area, I think we will be looking at $3.10-$3.25 gas soon. You know my position on the construction of new refineries. Let's build them in Mexico or Central America.

[T Park]

Let's build them in Mexico or Central America.

what the for.

Build it here, let AMERICANS build them, and let AMERICANS work on them.

Why the should we outsource....

wait,

didnt the liberals rib W up for outsourcing??

whoa.....

[scott]

what the for.

Because it's cheaper, smarty pants.

[scott]

It's a bit more than incremental. Chavez knows that the U.S. consumer market needs to be reassured after the gas crisis caused by both Katrina and Rita. Yes, physically the delivery of these additional million barrels are just a logical suppy and demand step, but with this PR move by Chavez, the market gets a short-term reassurance that in times like these, there are suppliers who are willing and able to step up to the plate. The Saudis tried to increase production and have so far been unable.

We still have many refinerys closed in the Beaumont-Lake Charles area, I think we will be looking at $3.10-$3.25 gas soon. You know my position on the construction of new refineries. Let's build them in Mexico or Central America.

I agree that it is a PR move for Chavez to come out and hail the sending of barrel to the US as some kind of great gift to mankind. The "market" (meaning, people who know and move the industry) don't need reassurance that suppliers are available to "step up to the plate", because we watch it happen every day. Maybe people on internet chat boards need assurance, but not those in the know. The US arb (short for arbitrage, term used in the industry referring to economic opportunities to ship product to another region) opened up, and Venezuela's oil ministry is acting in rational economic behavior.

As for building refineries, more capacity is obviously needed - as we've been discussing for well over a year now - and it will come without building a new one somewhere. Depending on what your position is, you probably don't want too much of an over-supply, because then you get the ultra-cheap gas that leads to higher consumption of a finite resource and we just accelerate the process of running out of the stuff. There is a balance between too-expensive and too-cheap. My guess it's around $2/gal.

[xrayzebra]

It's easy to tell which political class you support in Venazuela. Yeah, Chavez was so hated by the majority that they went and re-elected him again anyway, and don't cry to me about crooked elections because these shoulders are all cried out on that one.

Dan you are right. I was wrong all the time. Our leaders: Sheehan, Louis Farrakhan, Teddy Kennedy, Kerry, Clinton--Hillary and Bill, Nancy Pelosi, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Barbra Streisand, Tom Cruise and many, many other outstanding americans have shown what this administration has done to this country. Mustn't leave out Barney Frank. My leader, would you just tell us what we must do to make this country great again? Please, please I am begging. I am looking up to you, all knowing, great one. I am now lost since I have no one but you to look to. I know you know all things and have answers to all problems. Come forth with them and let me rest in peace. I am begging, pleading and seeking the truth.

[scott]

Your sarcasm is less annoying than your real posts... stick with this.

[xrayzebra]

Your sarcasm is less annoying than your real posts... stick with this.

Will you please enlighten me? I am seeking answers. I know you have them. All I get is criticism, but no answers.

[Dos]

expecting a plan from the radical left .. "other than get our troops out now" is like waiting for a rain storm in the sahara..

[xrayzebra]

expecting a plan from the radical left .. "other than get our troops out now" is like waiting for a rain storm in the sahara..

But why doesn't Dan answer. I want word from the top not the little guys.

[nkdlunch]

Let's agree that Chavez and Bush are both full of !

[xrayzebra]

Let's agree that Chavez and Bush are both full of !

Is that part of the bargain to accepting the world under Dan's administration/plan?