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Too far to the left.
Obama is a centrist, just like the last 3 or 4 presidents.
I love Bernie. I just voted for Hillary, as I think she has the better general election chance. Haven't talked to any Democrat that doesn't really like Sanders. We are just smart enough to collectively vote strategically in this case.
I think if the GOP field were down to Trump vs. one other person, that would be the case on the GOP side as well. As it is, it isn't, so the GOP gets to deal with yet another uncomfortable reality.
Too far to the left.
Obama is a centrist, just like the last 3 or 4 presidents.
Again, talking about in the aforementioned red states with large or growing Hispanic populations like Arizona, Utah and Texas.I don't think it would be close. There are a lot of Republicans that would just not vote that normally would, to balance out the nutters that would come out to vote for him. They would be vastly outweighed by a massive Democratic surge.
The right in this country has the singular ability to ignore reality when reality is not emotionally appealing.
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... because the Repugs have been relentless in implementing the VRWC strategy of ing the 99%, while the less Dems have been passively compliant.
All of Bernie's policies, programs, issues are meant to reverse the VRWC screwing the 99% over the last 40 years, screwing America, and the environment. VRWC has been making absolutely sure that "capitalism is best" BUT exclusively for capitalists, by ing over all the non-capitalists and the environment.
iow, Hillary being Pres means America is ed and stays un able. Her "pragmatic incrementalism" really means:
"I'm 1000% establishment, which has made me and Slick Willie extremely wealthy, and I intend to keep it that way.
I will "get (extremely tiny) things done" in return for signing all kinds of huge VRWC Repug ", just like Slick Willie did"
Center left. Which makes him a rabid socialist to some (or many), just as Bush, a center-right, was considered a rabid fascist by some of the left.
Are you judging by his actions or his speeches?
head's "unitary executive" bull WAS fascist authoritarianism, as was
his still secret "national energy policy" meeting with BigCarbon execs going over maps if Iraqi oilfields, a policy which was to "invade Iraq for oil",
as was his Senate using reconciliation to "force down their throats" the biggest tax cut on the wealthy (including himself) in history.
Lol, RG called it and dumbass predictably responds
So speeches it is
Sorry, I meant Biden - not Bernie.
I don't think Obama is a centrist. Hillary is a centrist (but will say whatever to get elected) - Obama is to the left. I'd guess he agrees with Bernie regarding single payor, free college and parental leave - if he thought he'd have a chance to get all that through.
Depends what day this hoe wakes up on. If she wakes up in Hilary the socialist day she will probably pick Barney
if she wakes up in Hilary the neocon day s probably pick Cheney
Exactly - whichever way the wind is blowing.Depends what day this hoe wakes up on. If she wakes up in Hilary the socialist day she will probably pick Barney
if she wakes up in Hilary the neocon day s probably pick Cheney
He didn't even care about the public option when he had control of both houses and a filibuster proof majority in the senate and you're saying he wanted single payer? What planet do you live on?
Universal truths belong in any forum.
Kobe sucks.
That's a myth that there was ever really a filibuster proof majority. Those dems (one of which had just changed parties mid-term) weren't locked up votes for single payer or public option. They may have technically been dems, but they were not all liberal.
ugh, it's this snobbish elitism i can't stand
Obama made not the slightest effort to get the public option done in the senate. LOL people claiming he was ever for single payer like Bernie. He wanted and got Romney-Heritage Care.
Public option had no chance to make it through the senate. that's why.
Just because you keep saying it doesn't make it true. What is true is that he never pushed for it in the senate.
Just because you keep saying it doesn't make it true.
No, it is true that he dropped the public option ASAP.
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