Kevin Martin may need to have a solid increase in minutes.

[MaNu4Tres]

While I'll agree that he plays like a scared kitty cat on both ends you can't say "I hate when fans are results oriented...." Doesn't matter if he hits bull runners or not - he hit them. Unfortunately, for SA to beat the GSW you have to depend on some mariposa like Kevin Martin. Why? Danny Green sucks, and KL isn't good enough. IF either of those two had a pair, Spurs would have kept Butler and not signed Martin.

Yeah I can say that.. because hitting bull double pump one handed runners isn't going to be successful in the long run. He'll hit less than 20% of those in the long run.

But of course since he hit them last night...

[spurs10]

. Agreed.

Two more scrimmages to go...

[MaNu4Tres]

If the Spurs keep shooting the way they've been shooting they'll be out after Round 2 anyway. This team has a lot of question marks going into the playoffs and the putrid shooting is a big one. Yes, love the elite defense, but there isn't a single player who you can have confidence to hit a 3 when wide open. If the Spurs can't hit from outside they'll get buried alive trading 3's for 2's, especially once the compe ion gets tougher.

Like another poster in this thread said, I'd look at it the way the Spurs used Marco. Marco was one of the very very few who showed up in the playoffs last year and was a big bright spot in a series that maybe wouldn't have seen 7 games had Marco not been hot.

Martin's outside shooting (yes, it's not been great but at least he's not gun shy or hesitant with his shot) may be needed if this team goes cold from outside. I could totally see teams pack the paint and dare to beat them from there.

I'm not saying Martin needs 40 minutes a game, just that the Spurs are abysmal offensively right now and if he's hitting them there's no reason not to increase his minutes.

Bottom line. I would rather go out with my horses than try to get cute with the lineups and giving Martin a significant role. He's below average in every aspect of the game and has been all season long -- that will not change.

Martin doesn't belong in the playoffs -- especially on the Spurs. If he plays meaningful minutes, Spurs aren't giving themselves the best chance to win.

[tholdren]

Yeah I can say that.. because hitting bull double pump one handed runners isn't going to be successful in the long run. He'll hit less than 20% of those in the long run.

But of course since he hit them last night...

On Spurs Current Roster, rank the top 5 players in terms of career PPG....

[MaNu4Tres]

On Spurs Current Roster, rank the top 5 players in terms of career PPG....

Yes. Let's bring up career stats to justify playing somebody right now. Brilliant takes.. I miss the old Spurstalk.

Lets bring back AJ and Sean, they had better career stats than 10 players on the roster.

[SAGirl]

Two more scrimmages to go...

I like to watch them. I am always rooting for our youngest players. The end results in the win columns matter not as we are set in our seed. Only getting better matters and the only improvement we will get at this point is rhythm for vets and experience for younger guys. Others don't understand this and think we have played our absolute best schemes and lineups.

[tholdren]

Yes. Let's bring up career stats to justify playing somebody right now. Brilliant takes.. I miss the old Spurstalk.

Lets bring back AJ and Sean, they had better career stats than 10 players on the roster.

Or, you could say someone who averaged 20ppg last year is lucky to hit (insert whatever shot).... Fact of the matter is over the life of a career he was a better scorer than KL.

Martin's 3rd year he was averaging 20. KL's third year he was averaging... not 20.

[spurs10]

I like to watch them. I am always rooting for our youngest players. The end results in the win columns matter not as we are set in our seed. Only getting better matters and the only improvement we will get at this point is rhythm for vets and experience for younger guys. Others don't understand this and think we have played our absolute best schemes and lineups.

[dabom]

Martin can't create for himself on offense anymore, he can't even dribble the ball without turning it over. He has zero confidence with the ball in his hands.And "hitting tough shots" is because he can't create good ones and that isn't a sustainable long-term especially against better defenses in the playoffs.

I hate when fans are results oriented after a small sample ( one game). He hit an open three then made 2 bull runners ( one was a double pump lol).

Over the larger sample, he's been really bad all season long. If Spurs give him a meaningful role, they'll be out of the playoffs after Round 2.

[dabom]

Kevin is a dud. He should get the tmac treatment.

[playbonner15]

RIP Kevin Martin

[dabom]

Kevin Martin is the Bonner of SGs.

[tholdren]

Rip kevin martin

[Mnky]

What happened to Martin

[Dro210]

I miss the old Spurstalk.

[TheGreatYacht]

Everyone is talking about Vending Machine head, but no one is bringing up KMart... It was good seeing him provide instant buckets, per par

[atlfan25]

Martin is trash. He's a poor mans J. Simmon's

[PopTheGOAT]

Reggie Miller was sure vouching for him last night

[TrainOfThought5]

Kevin Martin is the Bonner of SGs.

[TheGreatYacht]

Anderson is the Chuck Hayes of SF's

[thispego]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...n+Martin+sucks

[Mouth is Bleeding]

Reggie Miller was sure vouching for him last night

Couldn't ask for worse vouching than that complete fool.

[hater]

If he could be a poor mans Ferrari Belinelli, he'd be a lot of help. Let us pray

[Keepin' it real]

Couldn't ask for worse vouching than that complete fool. (Reggie Miller)

For sure. The NBA hall of famer is a complete fool, so if he vouches for someone, it's meaningless. But if vulgar, incoherent anonymous internet posters on a fan site vouch for a player, now THAT means something.

smh

[Chinook]

For sure. The NBA hall of famer is a complete fool

Yes. Duh. Anyone who's bothered to look at Miller's takes knows this to be true.