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    How about somebody in the Spurs organization have the balls to threaten this fat mother er and order him to lose 30 lbs, lift some weights and get in shape? Nobody is going to trade for this fat Frenchman.
    Go say that to his face yourself and tell me how it went.

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    Diaw is a good RS player. He'll get you some wins. You can probably ride him through the season and see how he does but we are old and unless Timmy and Manu retire, dropping Boris won't make any difference.

    He'd be good with some young players like in Philly but I think he'd retire before moving there.

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    NO! Keep him!

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    I think it's about matchups. He's got some value against the Warriors for what it's worth.

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    As of today, Diaw's only value is against GSW, and it seems like they aren't going anywhere anytime soon. So you have to keep him solely on that factor. I mean, would you want the warriors to pick him up? naw...

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    Dnt thnk we should buy it's gonna happen!

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    Pop Parker Diaw pachage.

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    , keep him and make him the point guard. That will run some lbs off him and give the Spurs a huge back court!

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    As of today, Diaw's only value is against GSW, and it seems like they aren't going anywhere anytime soon. So you have to keep him solely on that factor. I mean, would you want the warriors to pick him up? naw...
    Does the matchup with Golden State matter much without Duncan or Ginobili? This team isn't a le contender once those two retire.

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    As of today, Diaw's only value is against GSW, and it seems like they aren't going anywhere anytime soon. So you have to keep him solely on that factor. I mean, would you want the warriors to pick him up? naw...
    That would entail getting past OKC/Cripples whether it be in the 2nd rd or WCF. Besides, Barnes might be long gone next year & replaced by someone like Horford which would mean Diaw is no longer the X-factor.

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    Jettison your only good bench big for Pau Gasol?

    Why?

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    I might release him and then look to re-sign him if the market doesn't bear out something better. Or , they might be able to work something out with Diaw where they release/stretch him before re-signing him with the room exception. That would pay him nearly as much this year as it would anyway, he'd be easier to trade later if it doesn't work out, and the Spurs would save $6.4 Million in cap space this summer.
    Here's how the money looks to Diaw:

    2016: $3,498,000
    2017-2019: $967,333
    2020: $600,000

    Here's how it affects the Spurs' cap:

    2016: $600,000 prior to using the room exception, $3,498,000 afterwards
    2017-2019: $967,333 (or $600,000 if they trade Diaw prior to waiving him or if someone claims him off waivers)
    2020: $600,000

    You're talking about paying less than one percent of the cap for four years to open up almost seven percent of the cap this year. If the Spurs want to keep Diaw in the fold, doing this would allow them a way to do it while also raising his value, since his contract would be smaller with them eating half to pull off this stretching maneuver in the first place.

    It'd be like the NBA equivalent of NFL contract restructures, but with a lot less downside.

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    Does the matchup with Golden State matter much without Duncan or Ginobili? This team isn't a le contender once those two retire.
    Why is that? We aren't a le contender with them either obviously.

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    That would entail getting past OKC/Cripples whether it be in the 2nd rd or WCF. Besides, Barnes might be long gone next year & replaced by someone like Horford which would mean Diaw is no longer the X-factor.
    Agree with the first part..but Why does everyone want Horford? He's the same type of player as LMA

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    Why is that? We aren't a le contender with them either obviously.
    They were until Duncan ed his knee.

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    They were until Duncan ed his knee.
    And now they aren't, knee or no knee. Nothing to see here. I think they'll be a darkhorse team like LAC who could beat GS if something happened to Curry for a few games. It really depends on what guys they bring in and how well they can fit together in such a short time. I fully believe that they can still build a champion in 2017 if they can figure out the right combination.

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    Agree with the first part..but Why does everyone want Horford? He's the same type of player as LMA
    Horford is actually way more mobile than LMA & matches up well w/ Draymond. He's actually not as bad a rebounder as his numbers suggest (he used to be as good as LMA) since Bud has him playing defense/offense away from the basket. He gets most of his shots from the top of the key while LMA gets his shots from the left wing & Kawhi from the right wing. This will give Porker lots of option for PnP & will keep the defense stretched out, if it was PRIME Porker he would be getting to the rim unmolested.

    Horford would also spread the floor for LMA/Kawhi postups thus teams won't be able to double team without paying for it unlike what OKC got away w/ by ignoring Tim. He's also an underrated rim protector & would be fine as long as he plays his natural position (PF) instead of center. This would mean LMA has to man up & bang w/ the like of Adams ala Bogut (at least in the playoffs) while Horford plays the Draymond role by trapping PnRs, switching, guarding stretch 4s or just scrambling on defense.

    PATFO would have to pick up a center like Hibbert for the Room Exception to eat minutes in the regular season since LMA ain't going to be willing to be a full-time center. Unless Porker is moved, in order to acquire Horford they would to gut the bench so I don't think they'll go that route.

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    His option next summer is more intriguing. Full non-guarantee and until 7/15 to exercise it (well into free agency). Spurs could theoretically take back salary from a team looking to sign someone who needs max room - $7 million times 125%-150% depending on if Spurs are under cap, and then other team can release Diaw with Spurs taking back a player they want and/or draft compensation. Or, in if Spurs want to chase someone, they can decide to cut him then.

    This year the savings are only around $4 million - he may or may not be worth that depending on if he gets into shape. Luckily it's an Olympic season.


    And now they aren't, knee or no knee. Nothing to see here. I think they'll be a darkhorse team like LAC who could beat GS if something happened to Curry for a few games. It really depends on what guys they bring in and how well they can fit together in such a short time. I fully believe that they can still build a champion in 2017 if they can figure out the right combination.
    You're assuming too that GSW and OKC continue to operate at such a high level. Bogut and Iggy will be a year older, and there's a chance Barnes and Ezeli both get stupid offer sheets. Knowing them though, they'll turn Ian Clark into a 6MotY.

    Spurs have a lot more long term cap flexibility than either of those teams after this summer and the youngest superstar of the bunch. On the other hand, LMA could hit a wall a year or two from now.

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    His option next summer is more intriguing. Full non-guarantee and until 7/15 to exercise it (well into free agency). Spurs could theoretically take back salary from a team looking to sign someone who needs max room - $7 million times 125%-150% depending on if Spurs are under cap, and then other team can release Diaw with Spurs taking back a player they want and/or draft compensation. Or, in if Spurs want to chase someone, they can decide to cut him then.

    This year the savings are only around $4 million - he may or may not be worth that depending on if he gets into shape. Luckily it's an Olympic season.




    You're assuming too that GSW and OKC continue to operate at such a high level. Bogut and Iggy will be a year older, and there's a chance Barnes and Ezeli both get stupid offer sheets. Knowing them though, they'll turn Ian Clark into a 6MotY.

    Spurs have a lot more long term cap flexibility than either of those teams after this summer and the youngest superstar of the bunch. On the other hand, LMA could hit a wall a year or two from now.
    I'm not assuming that. In fact, I said the Spurs would be a darkhorse precisely because the other teams might have something happen to them. I was focused on Curry, but yes, it could be anything. But I don't think that's dependent on Duncan or Ginobili. It could depend on Diaw or Mills. But yeah, the Spurs just have to find the right players. LMA and Kawhi are good enough on offense and Kawhi and Green are good enough on defense to beat anyone. But if they can get some consistent production out of the rest of the roster, they could make some noise.

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    Horford is actually way more mobile than LMA & matches up well w/ Draymond. He's actually not as bad a rebounder as his numbers suggest (he used to be as good as LMA) since Bud has him playing defense/offense away from the basket. He gets most of his shots from the top of the key while LMA gets his shots from the left wing & Kawhi from the right wing. This will give Porker lots of option for PnP & will keep the defense stretched out, if it was PRIME Porker he would be getting to the rim unmolested.

    Horford would also spread the floor for LMA/Kawhi postups thus teams won't be able to double team without paying for it unlike what OKC got away w/ by ignoring Tim. He's also an underrated rim protector & would be fine as long as he plays his natural position (PF) instead of center. This would mean LMA has to man up & bang w/ the like of Adams ala Bogut (at least in the playoffs) while Horford plays the Draymond role by trapping PnRs, switching, guarding stretch 4s or just scrambling on defense.

    PATFO would have to pick up a center like Hibbert for the Room Exception to eat minutes in the regular season since LMA ain't going to be willing to be a full-time center. Unless Porker is moved, in order to acquire Horford they would to gut the bench so I don't think they'll go that route.
    I don't want Horford. I'm done with undersized bigs with lack of athleticism. An athletic big that can go get a rebound should be priority. Not another 6'9" center.

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    I love both, DWest and Bobo. But after OKC series, it's pretty obvious the Spurs need young legs and size.

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    I don't want Horford. I'm done with undersized bigs with lack of athleticism. An athletic big that can go get a rebound should be priority. Not another 6'9" center.
    I'm not too in love w/ this idea but LMA would have to play center so Horford can play his natural position (PF). In any case, Horford can score, move his feet, jump, run & block shots unlike D-Worst.

    Horford vs. Pau:



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    Horford vs. Love:



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    I don't want Horford. I'm done with undersized bigs with lack of athleticism. An athletic big that can go get a rebound should be priority. Not another 6'9" center.

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    Does the matchup with Golden State matter much without Duncan or Ginobili? This team isn't a le contender once those two retire.
    your sure?

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