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    Another trash player who pop won't even allow to demonstrate how trash he is.

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    he can back up Bonner

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    Very fluent English with an American accent. Did he study here?

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    Training camp deal. No biggie.

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    Am I the only ones who's not happy about this news? Min contracts are only for a year or two. Wanted longer.
    Why do you think that is? I have no experienced knowledge of overseas signings. DeColo was the last one and I don't think he was the minimum at 1.5 mill, was he? Plus, he had 2 yrs guaranteed right? I don't remember.

    Personally, my speculation is the concerns with his right knee. He blew his ACL twice in the same knee in consecutive years in a non contact fashion. I saw videos of him wearing a brace in games this season very much like Timmy's in his right knee. He's still 23 so it's not a good sign and maybe they don't want to commit long term to Tiago part II either. They were already in the lux tax this season so they must avoid that and even a slight salary overpay for an injured player for example it's not a place they want to go to.

    The second reason, and it's also speculation stems from my observation of Jarell Eddie, a notorious super quick trigger shooter that we liked from their Austin team who was never picked up bc of very questionable (I.e. bad) defense. He was a player that really only contributed with shooting and Bertans is similar. He's 6'10 but doesn't rebound, and doesn't contribute much in other categories. He could be the 6'10" Jarell Eddie, which I don't mind at all, but obviously they do mind. It's like a trial IMO. If he doesn't box our for rebounds for example bc he's fragile, stick thin and at the risk of blowing a knee out, I don't see him beating even Bonner. He's a risk, there are concerns there and that's probably the reason for the super short trial contract.

    But again, I don't know much about their overseas sign history.

    Hopefully he's better than the Red Rocket. I mean it's no good for him if he can't even beat Rocket to the spot.
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    I understand the concerns about his knee but he has looked good since coming back from the surgery. If you just looked at his play, you couldn't really tell any difference in his athleticism before and after the injury.

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    Cut after the trade deadline for a TOSB Vet.

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    Honestly though, I truly hope he gets a real run and not a stand in the corner and wait for the ball maybe if someone wants to pass you the ball. Also hope pop doesn't decide to run this guy at the 5.

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    Goodbye Bonner, we hardly knew ye.

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    Goodbye Bonner, we hardly knew ye.
    Bonner is coming back too.. to teach him the ways.. "Okay this is how you warm the bench.." "we're up 25 get ready to get your game face on"

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    The injury risk I'm sure is a concern but I assume it's mostly to do with having as much flexibility this summer as possible.

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    I understand the concerns about his knee but he has looked good since coming back from the surgery. If you just looked at his play, you couldn't really tell any difference in his athleticism before and after the injury.
    It's not athleticism I am concerned about, but durability. There's no telling how his body will hold up through 82 games and the NBA physicality.

    Then obviously whether he can only contribute with shooting hence the Jarell Eddie comment.
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    There's no telling how his body will hold up through 82 games and the NBA physicality.
    He won't even touch the court in a majority of them. He'll be in a suit or in Austin. Unless they need him for spot minutes when Kawhi is taking a night off.

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    Bertrans will be a welcome addition. He's a strong shooter and has worked hard to get to the NBA!!

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    Honestly though, I truly hope he gets a real run and not a stand in the corner and wait for the ball maybe if someone wants to pass you the ball. Also hope pop doesn't decide to run this guy at the 5.
    Not at the 5, but I bet he will get time as the 4, hence my boxing out and rebounding comment. He won't exclusively be a 3 no matter how much of a stick he is, see Daye and Anderson.

    I am sure he will get passed to with the bench crew actually, but as you said, probably has to pay his dues like all rookies. Others mentioned it's a training camp deal. Maybe they have him compete like Simmons did, but they expect him o make it. Cady is likely a TC invite too.

    I don't see LJC pushing the issue although he could as a 1st round pick bc he's probably not ready.

    It will 've an interesting SL at least.

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    Am I the only ones who's not happy about this news? Min contracts are only for a year or two. Wanted longer.
    Only time you've been happy with the Spurs FO is when they gave Danny Green his contract lol I'm jk bro.

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    Not at the 5, but I bet he will get time as the 4, hence my boxing out and rebounding comment. He won't exclusively be a 3 no matter how much of a stick he is, see Daye and Anderson.

    I am sure he will get passed to with the bench crew actually, but as you said, probably has to pay his dues like all rookies. Others mentioned it's a training camp deal. Maybe they have him compete like Simmons did, but they expect him o make it. Cady is likely a TC invite too.

    I don't see LJC pushing the issue although he could as a 1st round pick bc he's probably not ready.

    It will 've an interesting SL at least.
    Not at the 5? That sounds like a challenge.

    It's all up to that guy if he decides to play Bertans to his strengths or tries to fit a square peg into a round hole. I think Bertans can play the 3 and the 4 for sure especially given his skill set. I don't need him rebounding his first year, I need him hitting shots consistently either as a catch a shoot guy or drawing defenders and putting the ball on the floor for a 1 or 2 dribble pull up. Make teams respect the perimeter play again.

    Pop has issues with letting rookies be themselves and tries to shape them into a particular kind of player which usually screws them up.

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    About damn time tbh
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    Not at the 5? That sounds like a challenge.

    It's all up to that guy if he decides to play Bertans to his strengths or tries to fit a square peg into a round hole. I think Bertans can play the 3 and the 4 for sure especially given his skill set. I don't need him rebounding his first year, I need him hitting shots consistently either as a catch a shoot guy or drawing defenders and putting the ball on the floor for a 1 or 2 dribble pull up. Make teams respect the perimeter play again.

    Pop has issues with letting rookies be themselves and tries to shape them into a particular kind of player which usually screws them up.
    Yup has to make them system players. To that end some do fit in the system and others don't. I suspect though that just shooting is not the focus for this guy, if he doesn't do the other stuff he will be in the doghouse often, guaranteed.

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    if he were going to be good in the NBA he's be awesome in Europe

    a la splitter, boban
    Some ppl think just shooting is all there is to it. Spurs don't, hence Jarell Eddie, who is just as good of a shooter as Bertans and we didn't pick him up. Hopefully Bertans is better, but just shooting ain't going to cut it. He probably has to show he can do other stuff too.

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    This was widely expected by people who followed his career closely, but it's still good news nonetheless. We finally have our new Red Rocket.


    That last bit was totally unnecessary.

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    Yup has to make them system players. To that end some do fit in the system and others don't. I suspect though that just shooting is not the focus for this guy, if he doesn't do the other stuff he will be in the doghouse often, guaranteed.
    Which will be very sad.. Some guys are only meant to be shooters.

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    And there is the big signing this year. Enjoy.

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    - I can't wait to put you in the dog house and give your minutes to Kyle Anderson.
    He'll be shooting only layups and corner 3s in no time.

    These playoffs aren't for him.
    he can back up Bonner
    Cut after the trade deadline for a TOSB Vet.
    Bonner is coming back too.. to teach him the ways.. "Okay this is how you warm the bench.." "we're up 25 get ready to get your game face on"

    it's funny bcuz all of these are most likely true

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    Anybody who can take Fathead's spot in the rotation is fine with me

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