I don't know why people are laughing. Deng will give you 20-25 mins of solid effort. He's brought in to mentor another Dukie. He's a high character guy that will do everything for your team. The Lakers doesn't have any leadership and Deng can provide this foundation on the floor.
Deng is a nice player in a vacuum. 18 mil isn't even too crazy considering the current market....
But you don't pay 4yr/72 for a guy that plays the two positions where you're trying to develop your rookies just cuz he's a good mentor. It also pretty much guarantees that they'll have to give up that Top 3 pick in next year's stacked draft.....
Mozgov is a 3 year deal, Deng is only 31. Considering the fact Turner and Bazemore were paid the same amount of money, this is looking like a perfect acquisition for a team developing a winning culture.Game planned for Whiteside and DeRozan, locked up a 30yr old with bad knees and a "31" yr old for 4 years
Start looking forward to the 2021 free agency period, Lakerfan
Mitch
so salty
Not really i like oak, you love him and on Randle.so salty
I am defending Randle and making fun of your man crush.
I dont say anything about Oak on LG ...
All teasing aside, (you do get im teasing?)
There are cats on there still in love with him, same as you.
Despite his faults i would take him on Lakers still for anyone not named Clarkson, Russell or even randle. But we have limited assets to offer. I love his mid post game hate his defense and rebounding.
Deng is an old 31, and a 4 year deal at 18 per isn't horrendous, but they could've gotten a combo forward like Teletovic or Marvin Williams for much cheaper, both of whom produce as well as Deng. Typical Lakers, though. Going for the "name."
And
This wasn't Mozgoof/Mike Conley bad, but the Lakers could've done better.
Average player tbh
I liked williams dont think he will be cheaper but we will see ...Deng is an old 31, and a 4 year deal at 18 per isn't horrendous, but they could've gotten a combo forward like Teletovic or Marvin Williams for much cheaper, both of whom produce as well as Deng. Typical Lakers, though. Going for the "name."
And
This wasn't Mozgoof/Mike Conley bad, but the Lakers could've done better.
it's a matter of potential, to me it's funny to compare okafor to any of the players the lakers have even if you combine them. No player on the lakers roster has the potential to be a top 20 player at his position, okafor has the potential to be the best center in the league. I'm not counting ingram in the discussion.
Mid, Marvin Williams does not make sense for them, so does Teletovic. These are players that will serve their own agendas, which is to produce as much as possible for their next respective contracts. They are exactly the type of players that will slow down the progression of Ingram and Randle.Deng is an old 31, and a 4 year deal at 18 per isn't horrendous, but they could've gotten a combo forward like Teletovic or Marvin Williams for much cheaper, both of whom produce as well as Deng. Typical Lakers, though. Going for the "name."
And
This wasn't Mozgoof/Mike Conley bad, but the Lakers could've done better.
Deng is costly, true but what you get is a guy who won't complain and he knows there's a trade off coming in. The Lakers paid him a generous amount to do something no other Free Agent would do, which is to mentor and sacrifice any chances of winning a le.
Doubtful. Towns has more potential plays both ends. Davis is probably transitioning to a small ball era center. Yes center is a weak position saying oak can be one of the best in a shallow field dorsnt mean much tbh. And you way overstate hos potential especially when the sixers with a new FO value Embid, Noel and Jerian grant more ..i am excluding Simmons.
Advance statistics already show Russell to be a better player than Okafor. If this is 95, where Raw stats are valued then you may have a point. Okafor's game doesn't sync in today's game. He's a poor rebounding big man with no defensive presence. Guards like Russell are better equipped to succeed in this league.
I think Raven nailed it when he said that they don't see Randle in their future (unless he has a huge year as small ball center). As I said, Deng is basically a stretch 4 these days, so signing him does in fact affect Randle's development.
You might be right about Williams and Teletovic being contract s, but we really don't know that. And we can't assume Deng will just willingly sacrifice, even if he did sell the Lakers a line of gab. "Sure, Luke. Whatever you want. Gonna love helping those boys."
And who knows, maybe the Lakers do in fact see Deng as crucial offensive piece to get them back to playing respectable basketball. Time Warner is probably getting edgy, and doesn't want to see another 17-20 win season again.
I just want to touch up on this too, developing a winning culture isn't exclusive to championship rings
And
This wasn't Mozgoof/Mike Conley bad, but the Lakers could've done better.
how is philly's front office in any way relevant? they are simply trying to find a way to play noel and the truth is that noel is a massive bust even if he was mostly healthy. he just is an undersized weak center with no real purpose on a winning team. At some point they will realize that i guess.. i don't know about embid but i doubt he is as good as okafor. Davis is a pf, come on. Currently cousins is the best center and i can see okafor being better than him.
only re s use statistics on rookies. no offense.
this sh*t just gets better and better
I think one thing is for sure though, they are going to show massive improvement. It's not enough to lure Tier A free agents like Westbrook but they'll have progress.
A recent statistic shows successful franchise build through draft, if their quad starts showing signs of life and potential and the numbers in the win column increases, then getting pieces they want wouldn't be too much of an issue. But they have to dig themselves out of this hole,
Now the Lakers have a little African in them
If you're not going to use statistics and we know damn sure you don't watch 82 games for a comprehensive comparison, then doesn't that make you a dumbass for refusing to look at variables? No offense...
Couldn't agree more.
Not a bad signing IMO..Lakers' roster is full of youth, they needed a vet that can produce a little on the court, not bad..they had to spend the money, anyways, and their options are probably limitd..
Everything involving the Lakers has to be graded differently, tbh..D'Tective's actions have set them back years, as expected..
you don't need to see 82 games to find that out, but you do need to see some games for it, anyway it's pretty clear that the knock on okafor's rebounding was flat out wrong and that he understand defensive rotations and can defend the rim too. On the other side, he has the most polished offensive game of any center since cousins and that was true, so what remains is a 20 years old guy with prototypical body, a great offensive game and solid basis to become at least a decent defender. Of course he is not for every system, but that is not his fault, talent raises to top. The lakers have a proven bust like randle who is a slowass undersized pf that can't shoot and doesn't understand the first thing about team ball, a dumb kid that can barely shoot that was advertised as a curry type that gets blown by on every possession and has shown terrible court vision and no understanding of the game. the only guy they can actually work on is larry nance who could be a small ball enforcer, the rest are just what i call the "loser type" of players.. clarkson also falls in this category
Last edited by Raven; 07-02-2016 at 10:59 AM.
True. Deng is British via Africa, so he probably doesn't look down on snitching like a native African-American. Knowing the British, he probably considered what D'Snitch did "just a bit 'o banter, mate."
I would guess most African American FAs are hanging up on the phone when Mitch calls
Yep, he's also like 35 years old, so he's probably at a point in his life where he just wants the $ and touches..True. Deng is British via Africa, so he probably doesn't look down on snitching like a native African-American. Knowing the British, he probably considered what D'Snitch did "just a bit 'o banter, mate."
I would guess most African American FAs are hanging up on the phone when Mitch calls
As I said last year, some people may not understand, but Russell's actions will have serious implications..the Lakers will either need to move him, or he's gonna have to rehabilitate his entire image(which can only be done on the court, he has to have a dominant season)..
Otherwise, Lakers will be stuck with Europeans and older players, since snitching doesn't resonate with the former, and the older players are at a different point in life..
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