You make the NFL and NBA all star games determine who gets home field/court in the Finals/Super Bowl and they blow the MLB's all star game's rating outta the water. You'll agree with that, right?
They sure as wouldn't be close to women's gymnastics.
Damn......women's gymnastics. Dark times for America's pastime.
I said I can't wait for football season to start in another thread. You then immediately told me how football sucks.......
I'm telling you this right now mid. Say whatever you want about commercial breaks, flags, and whatnot. Football is king. It's 10000000000000x more exciting than baseball and soccer combined. Don't take my word for it though. Check out that list. The top 10 are all football, and only the game 7 of the NBA finals beat the national championship in college football (Two teams that are not even "professional")
Football >>>>> Everything else
You honestly don't see that list as "pathetic" for baseball? I know you love the sport Mid, but c'mon man.
We'll revisit this conversation when the NLCS/ALCS/World Series happens I'm sure. If the Cubs make the World Series...I can see big ratings. But, if they don't..........
The MLB All star beat the NBA AS Game in the ratings even prior to that rule.
Basketball isn't as relevant in the US as you think it is. Lebron is relevant. Jordan was/is relevant. Curry somewhat. Lakers somewhat. We saw how ratings dip below "Women's Gymnastics levels" when the Spurs play a non-Lebron team in the Finals (2007 Cavs aside).
And as I said, a marquee game 6 matchup featuring the 67 win Spurs against the Durant and Westbrook led Thunder can't even BEAT the MLB All Star Game, the NFL draft, or women's gymnastics.
What gets higher ratings?
Week 1 Alabama vs. USC college football or the highest rated World Series game?
The highest regular season rated college football ever on Fox drew 7.5 million viewers. SEC games average about a 3.4 rating on CBS (5.5 million viewers).
Highest rated World Series Game of the past few years was the Game 7 Giants/Royals at 24 million, which is only 6 million below this year's NBA Finals Game 7 featuring Lebron, Curry, a 3-1 comeback vs. a 73 win team, and the curse story line.
The NBA needs a perfect storm to really draw, which is why the powers-that-be love nothing more when the Spurs are kept out of the Finals, and they love when Lebron is in the Finals. The Giants vs. Royals is pretty much the equivalent of Spurs vs. the Pacers. Spurs vs. the Pacers would be lucky to average more than 7 million.
I'm not ting on the NBA, but it just shows how the typical US sports fan doesn't care about sports unless there's something "flashy" (a star, storyline) involved.
Why would I?
That "list" only considers the MLB regular season, comparing it to playoff and championship games in other sports.
I don't think football the sport sucks. The modern NFL is certainly a heaping pile of , though.
Americans really like watching commercials and sumo wrestling with helmets and shoulder pads.
Damn right we do. Sure as beats watching a 0-0 tie soccer game or a pitcher throwing it back to first base 4 times in a row.
The fascination with the modern NFL puzzles me.
Typical NFL game these days.
- Brought to you by Bud Light.
- "Are you ready for summm fooooooobawwww."
- Hank Williams Jr.'s song was brought to you by Chevrolet.
- Kickoff.
- Touchback.
- "And the Chargers will take the field after these messages."
- 4 minutes of in' commercials.
- Starting lineups are shown on the screen. Brought to you by Castrol Motor Oil.
- Snap.
- QB gets hit a millisecond late. *whistle* Roughing the passer, 15 yards.
- Unexciting run play for 1 yard. Ohh, someone is down.
- "As the trainers tend to Johnson, we'll be right back."
- 4 minutes of commercials.
The ordinary American disagrees with that statement. Evidence by the millions and millions and millions of more viewers.
I don't watch the NFL religiously because my team sucks. I'll still check out a Cowboys vs. Giants or a Patriots vs. Jets Sunday Night/Monday Night Football game though. I might check out the last few innings of the World Series clinching game.....that's about it.
World Series ratings have been down overall since the mid 80s. When does it stop the decline? Where is the bottom?
Do we really need to get into baseball's problems? That's a long list too my friend.
Bring in a pitcher to face a right handed batter
Commercial break
Bring in a pitcher to face the next left handed batter
Commercial break
Pitcher throws the ball to 1st base to check the runner
Pitcher doesn't like the catcher's pitch selection
Catcher goes out to the mound to talk about it
Pitcher throws the ball back to 1st base
Pitcher throws the ball back to 1st base again
Manager comes out to the mound
Commercial break
Pitcher throws the ball back to 1st base again
15 minutes and absolutely nothing happened.
What does appeal to popularity prove? Billions of people chant like idiots and are seemingly entertained by a sport that ends in a 0-0 tie more than any sport reasonably should, but you nor I "don't get" the fascination.
Baseball ratings are fine. It crushes it regionally. Appealing to World Series ratings to demonstrate "baseball is dying" makes as much sense as someone appealing to NBA Finals ratings when the Spurs and Pistons or Nets were drawing 6-8 million viewers.
If the MLB gets its dream "Curry vs, Lebron matchup," which would be the Cubs vs. the Red Sox (Ortiz's last season), it should easily beat the NBA Finals.
Spurs vs Pistons/Nets is not the norm. I can understand dips/lows in the ratings when "Small market" franchises are involved.
This is the norm for the world series. A steady decline over the past 30 years....1/2 the viewers today than in the mid 80s. I don't know off the top of my head who played in those " es" like in 04 or 09. I'd guess the Yankees or Red Sox though. A team with a huge market.
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Checking the runner is an important move. If the Yankees did it better, Dave Roberts doesn't steal that base, which eventually lead to the 0-3 Yankee collapse. Pitching changes are as well.
I don't have ADD, so I don't need "stuff moving around" to be entertained. But I won't suffer excessive commercials and over bearing referee influence, and no sports league on Earth is "better" in those areas than the National FOOOOBAAAWWW League.
For comparison, MLB broadcast has 85 commercials and an NBA broadcast has 90 commercials.WP’s Fred Bowen counted the ads in a 2014 NFL game and had seen an astounding 152 advertisements during the game. 152; that was more ads than plays from scrimmage. Update for 2015: the early returns on the first few weeks of the season show a huge up-tick in penalties
in gotem
You can't compare 80's to today. Less channels in the 80's. Less entertainment options. Only football has been immune.
Yes, the uptick in '09 was due the Yankees.
Check out how the "pre-Lebron in the Finals era" NBA did against the World Series:
Like I said, people don't watch "the NBA," they watch Lebron.
the answer is Game 7 of Cubs vs doesn't ing matter, tbh.
There isn't a "Perfect Sport". All these "sports" have problems. NFL has too many commercials, MLB has too many pitching changes, Soccer has 0-0 tie games. And that's just scratching the surface of the things wrong with those sports.
Even with all those commercial breaks in the NFL...that sport still DOMINATES the ratings. Why is that? Obviously they're doing something right. Why does a Seahawks/Raiders/Buccaneers/Jaguars fan(s) watch a Cowboys vs. Giants game early in the season?
It started during the Great Recession and it ain't let up.
Agreed. Like I said earlier, if it's the Cubs that's a game changer. The "Lovable Loser" getting another shot, First championship in 100+ years, The "Billy Goat" Curse, Steve Bartman,....etc.
That will kill in the ratings.
But "Why" cub? I know that it ain't letting up, but "Why?"
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