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    How many PGs play above the rim in the NBA? Westbrook? And...?
    To me he looks like a raw, poor mans (maybe homeless, at this pt) Westbrook. ...there I said it.

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    The next Westbrook imo

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    Murray is already a better finisher at the rim than Kawhi. Hope to see Murray in many PnR's this season.

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    Here's the thing I love about him and why I'm very very high on him, his weaknesses are only shooting, and decision making with the ball (shoot or pass and when to shoot or pass). For a 19 year old, I don't care how good of a prospect you are -- whether you're LeBron of 03' or Kobe of 96' --- those two things are always below average for a 19 year old. Everything else about his game is a positive and his length and size for the PG position makes his ceiling incredibly high -- a lot higher than the normal talent you see for the 29th pick usually.

    I'm very confident his shot and decision making will improve as time goes on, because from everything I've read and seen -- the kid has ELITE work -ethic. Once his body, shooting and decision makes comes along.... watch out!

    Spurs may have gotten the steal of the draft at the position they need the most. He has the length and size to make a Kawhi-like impact at the point guard position for years to come on both ends of the floor.

    I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see Mills traded by the trade deadline if Murray progresses a lot faster than anyone anticipated. Spurs won't re-sign Mills anyway after this year for 7-9 million ( which should be his market value next year) with Murray making pennies for 3 more years. Better to trade him and get something back in return ( high 2nd or late 1st) than to let him go in FA for nothing.
    Im not worried about this guy offensively, i think he'll figure it out but it's gonna take a season or two

    but defensively, he's got some BAD habits to break. I can already see Pop losing his mind if murray ever gets minutes this season

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    Murray is already a better finisher at the rim than Kawhi. Hope to see Murray in many PnR's this season.
    Yes you can tell this bc he makes lay ups against college players and guys trying to make the 14th and 15th spot on an NBA roster. Wait and see if he can do that against true NBA players before you conclude, incredulously, that he's a better finisher than the best player on our team and the MVP runner up.

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    Yes you can tell this bc he makes lay ups against college players and guys trying to make the 14th and 15th spot on an NBA roster. Wait and see if he can do that against true NBA players before you conclude, incredulously, that he's a better finisher than the best player on our team and the MVP runner up.
    Why are you replaying against a frustrated troll?

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    Before you cede the starting spot to a 19 year old rookie, wait and see him against NBA starting point guards and NBA starting bigs. You might take back some of those comments. Kid has talent, but he's not there physically or fundamentally and there is no reason to force him into a spot where he fails when we already have a starting caliber PG on our roster who is adequate for the task of running the team. And if you think this kid is better than Parker right now at running point. Then you're a moron. The PG spot is the hardest position to learn in the NBA and Absent a trade, no one on this current roster will take his spot in the starting line up for the next two years.
    Didn't take long for parker to become a starter and spurs drafted him at 19 also. If he's impactful in games, he'll earn more playing time.

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    Didn't take long for parker to become a starter and spurs drafted him at 19 also. If he's impactful in games, he'll earn more playing time.
    The guy in front of him was 40 years old. Parker is like 33.

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    Parker played pro ball before coming to SA you can't even come close to comparing the two

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    Im not worried about this guy offensively, i think he'll figure it out but it's gonna take a season or two

    but defensively, he's got some BAD habits to break. I can already see Pop losing his mind if murray ever gets minutes this season
    Bad habits on D are an easy fix. Most 19 year olds aren't great decision makers on either end of the court -- that comes in time. And with the Spurs, that time almost always is expedited because of elite coach/player development.

    Give me a 19 year old PG w/ room to grow mentally with the size and length Murray has over a smart kid out of college who doesn't have the length or size.

    Murray has the potential to be scary and he could contribute this year. I wouldn't be shocked if Mills is traded by the deadline if Murrays' elite work ethic expedites his progression.
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    Parker played pro ball before coming to SA you can't even come close to comparing the two
    I'm not comparing the 2 but I think he can have an impact in games .

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    Bad habits on D are an easy fix. Most 19 year olds aren't great decision makers on either end of the court -- that comes in time. And with the Spurs, that time almost always is expedited because of elite coach/player development.

    Give me a 19 year old PG w/ room to grow mentally with the size and length Murray has over a smart kid out of college who doesn't have the length or size.

    Murray has the potential to be scary and he could contribute this year. I wouldn't be shocked if Mills is traded by the deadline if Murrays' elite work ethic expedites his progression.
    This I agree with. Murray's length, combined with Danny and Kawhi could shut down passing lanes a la Jordan, Harper, and Pippen in the late 90s. He'll have to improve on D and he'll have to learn how to run a team, but that's doable on a three year timetable. And I don't even mind if he's a little shoot first. Players that are 6'5 in the NBA generally play shooting guard or even a smaller forward. If he could develop a post game against PG, that could be a game changer for how teams match up. But this is all at least 3 years down the road from today.

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    He needs a Eurostep.

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    Murray is already a better finisher at the rim than Kawhi. Hope to see Murray in many PnR's this season.
    Nailed it.

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    Except you didn't. DM wasnt a better finisher at the rim than Kawhi last year. Kawhi was GOAT status until he got cheap shotted by zaza.

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    Here's the thing I love about him and why I'm very very high on him, his weaknesses are only shooting, and decision making with the ball (shoot or pass and when to shoot or pass). For a 19 year old, I don't care how good of a prospect you are -- whether you're LeBron of 03' or Kobe of 96' --- those two things are always below average for a 19 year old. Everything else about his game is a positive and his length and size for the PG position makes his ceiling incredibly high -- a lot higher than the normal talent you see for the 29th pick usually.

    I'm very confident his shot and decision making will improve as time goes on, because from everything I've read and seen -- the kid has ELITE work -ethic. Once his body, shooting and decision makes comes along.... watch out!

    Spurs may have gotten the steal of the draft at the position they need the most. He has the length and size to make a Kawhi-like impact at the point guard position for years to come on both ends of the floor.

    I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see Mills traded by the trade deadline if Murray progresses a lot faster than anyone anticipated. Spurs won't re-sign Mills anyway after this year for 7-9 million ( which should be his market value next year) with Murray making pennies for 3 more years. Better to trade him and get something back in return ( high 2nd or late 1st) than to let him go in FA for nothing.
    Bad habits on D are an easy fix. Most 19 year olds aren't great decision makers on either end of the court -- that comes in time. And with the Spurs, that time almost always is expedited because of elite coach/player development.

    Give me a 19 year old PG w/ room to grow mentally with the size and length Murray has over a smart kid out of college who doesn't have the length or size.

    Murray has the potential to be scary and he could contribute this year. I wouldn't be shocked if Mills is traded by the deadline if Murrays' elite work ethic expedites his progression.
    This is for dabom.

    If only they traded Patty last year before FA.

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    20 days after DM got drafted.

    Where's your day one bud?

    And completely wrong about MVPatty per par.

    Consistently wrong got.

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    By the deadline to the off-season to the deadline again.

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