Poll: 58% of Millennials Would Vote Trump If He Forgave Student Loans

[Th'Pusher]

Wow, I commend you all - this thread has some good ideas without the normal amount of partisan bashing.

I don't know about how it is for you guys in Texas, but the pricing for housing has gone up more than college tuition in Florida. The price of my house has gone up by at least 2.5 times while total yearly cost at UF is only $6313 (UT-Austin lists at $9830). Room and board cost a lot but people can go to their local university or do as I did and go to community college for 2 years first. Compare that $6313 to my son's $5500 in braces - that seems like a good bargain for a year of college. Now I realize that Florida is on the low end of tuition but it's an example that it can be done if the states prioritize education.

Governor Charlie Crist was raising college tuition at 15% PER YEAR (which basically put a damper on "true" pre-paid college here - they could no longer guarantee that tuition would be paid for). You can bash Rick Scott all you want, but for education, he has been very good - stopped that 15% per year insane rise, issued a challenge for a $10k college degree (which all 23 state colleges have accepted) and has now signed a bill to allow any child to go to any public school in Florida (if there's space). In addition, there's now a free ride (at 6 universities) for those with National Merit honors to try to keep the talent here in Florida. We also have a Brights Future program which used to pay for full tuition - but now pays for about 1/2 (I think) - do 100 hrs of community service, 3.5 gpa, 1290 SAT or 29 ACT - there are lower levels with less money offered.

http://www.flgov.com/gov-scott-annou...e-challenge-2/

How was the governor of a state increasing college tuition?

[rmt]

How was the governor of a state increasing college tuition?

Here I was thinking that the nitpicking had gone down in this thread. Shall I change what I said to "under" so and so this happened to satisfy you?

[Th'Pusher]

Here I was thinking that the nitpicking had gone down in this thread. Shall I change what I said to "under" so and so this happened to satisfy you?

I'm not nitpicking. Were there specific policies Crist implemented that were driving the increased tuition rates in your opinion?

[rmt]

I'm not nitpicking. Were there specific policies Crist implemented that were driving the increased tuition rates in your opinion?

I don't know what was driving his desire to bring Florida's college tuition up to the national average - wasn't following politics at that time - was just alarmed that the Florida "full" pre-paid was no longer offered. He was governor from 2007 to 2011 - at just about the worst time possible to be doing that - so maybe it was the market crash. Anyways, it's almost a decade later and the colleges have answered Scott's challenge for a $10k degree - go figure. Don't know what types of degree they'll be but $10k - what a bargain.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I don't know what was driving his desire to bring Florida's college tuition up to the national average - wasn't following politics at that time - was just alarmed that the Florida "full" pre-paid was no longer offered. He was governor from 2007 to 2011 - at just about the worst time possible to be doing that - so maybe it was the market crash. Anyways, it's almost a decade later and the colleges have answered Scott's challenge for a $10k degree - go figure. Don't know what types of degree they'll be but $10k - what a bargain.

Then how can you say its state government policy at all that is doing it?

[Pelicans78]

Who cares what millennials want? Most of them are idiots anyway who provide little to the country.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Who cares what millennials want? Most of them are idiots anyway who provide little to the country.

This next decade is going to be fun for you. They overtook the boomers as most populous voter demographic and that is only going to become moreso as boomers die off and more millennials reach their majority.

You can see both parties trying to cater to them to get their votes. They distilled behind Bernie in the dem party and are getting significant concessions on the platform for example.

Go yell at a cloud.

[rmt]

Then how can you say its state government policy at all that is doing it?

I was immersed in young kids and homeschooling back then. I, like most Americans, did not pay much attention to politics until it directly affected me - in this case, with the Florida pre-paid college program. I am relating to you what happened regarding education. These are examples of programs they have now that hopefully will improve K-12 education (school choice) and make college affordable in Florida (low tuition, Bright Futures, Florida Incentive Scholarship and $10k degree).

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I was immersed in young kids and homeschooling back then. I, like most Americans, did not pay much attention to politics until it directly affected me - in this case, with the Florida pre-paid college program. I am relating to you what happened regarding education. These are examples of programs they have now that hopefully will improve K-12 education (school choice) and make college affordable in Florida (low tuition, Bright Futures, Florida Incentive Scholarship and $10k degree).

So more personal anecdotes where you didn't otherwise pay attention?

So no basis really at all then. have fun chasing your tail.

[Pelicans78]

This next decade is going to be fun for you. They overtook the boomers as most populous voter demographic and that is only going to become moreso as boomers die off and more millennials reach their majority.

You can see both parties trying to cater to them to get their votes. They distilled behind Bernie in the dem party and are getting significant concessions on the platform for example.


Go yell at a cloud.

Truthfully, I'm basically a millenial as well since I finished college in 2000, but I'm talking about people in their 20s who are idiots. I have student loans that I'm still paying, but it's only 10% of my income (after taxes/401K and life insurance) and I'm paying more than the required amount. I came out of school with about $140,000 in student loans.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Well the electorate that you were just railing over is now the top demographic in the country. Both political parties care a lot about what they think.

[rmt]

So more personal anecdotes where you didn't otherwise pay attention?

So no basis really at all then. have fun chasing your tail.

If you don't want to hear what other states are doing to make college affordable, then put me on ignore.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If you don't want to hear what other states are doing to make college affordable, then put me on ignore.

now you are changing the subject. if I want to learn such things I'm not going to ask people around here as a general rule.

[rmt]

now you are changing the subject. if I want to learn such things I'm not going to ask people around here as a general rule.

May I ask what you are doing here?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

May I ask what you are doing here?

posting posts. since you apparently think that way: what do you think you are doing here?

[rmt]

posting posts. since you apparently think that way: what do you think you are doing here?

I am here to learn, to hear what other people think (mostly opposing views), and to share my thoughts and experiences with the hope that they might help someone else (because I have been helped by so many others who have posted on the internet).

[Pelicans78]

Why is every thread turning into a fest between FL and RMT? Get a room guys.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I am here to learn, to hear what other people think (mostly opposing views), and to share my thoughts and experiences with the hope that they might help someone else (because I have been helped by so many others who have posted on the internet).

I find the truth to be precious but this place, a den of trolls and deception, is not the place to find it.

In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Why is every thread turning into a fest between FL and RMT? Get a room guys.

Or you could try adding to the discussion instead of whining.

[rmt]

Why is every thread turning into a fest between FL and RMT? Get a room guys.

I hate to sound like kids, but he started it Why can't he take my posts at face value - he finds fault or questions some imaginary motive.

Can't believe I'm here bickering with him - just can't believe they aren't showing this press conference - no NBATV, no ESPN, no ESPN2, nothing.

[CosmicCowboy]

fuzzy is just an asshole that comes in here to troll and start arguments and insult people with made up .

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I hate to sound like kids, but he started it Why can't he take my posts at face value - he finds fault or questions some imaginary motive.

Can't believe I'm here bickering with him - just can't believe they aren't showing this press conference - no NBATV, no ESPN, no ESPN2, nothing.

Who says I am not taking them for what they are? You are relying on personal anecdotes for your opinions. Pointing out is taking it at face value because that's what it's worth.

[DarrinS]

No one ever had student loans before the millennials. Smh

If you don't want massive student loan debt -- don't take out massive student loans, e.g. go to a less expensive school.

[pgardn]

Kids used to be able to pay off school while working summer construction.

This won't hack it anymore.

Two worst construction jobs: laying foundation and getting concrete dust in the face; finishing the roofing in the summer.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

fuzzy is just an asshole that comes in here to troll and start arguments and insult people with made up .

I like to argue because it is the best way to discover the truth. It's a very enic approach.

You just get asshurt because you are a self important bag that doesn't like to be questioned, pedobear. You reaction to me is typical.