Blacks are this countries emo goth 16 year old girl, they constantly want the spot light and act like everything is so hard in their worlds.
Good post, but drugs are not the root cause. Instead of stopping there, you should ask what is the cause of drug abuse? If you follow the causal chain all the way through, you'll find that social conditions are the root cause of almost all aberrant human behavior.The way this issue has become overly politicized and used as race-bait (on both sides) is counterproductive. There isn't some "out-of-control epidemic" of racist cops purposely hunting down minority suspects. Some numbers:
Some will argue that these numbers are "proof" of the problem since blacks are about 2.5 times more likely to be killed by law enforcement, but the sad fact is that blacks are about 10 times more likely to commit a homicide than whites, so you can say there's nothing really disproportionately eye-opening here.
It would be more productive for both sides to argue over what the root cause is that is putting so many blacks in these situations where something like getting shot by law enforcement is a possibility. And I think the overwhelming root cause is drugs (not to mention the sociological reasons of why inner city blacks feel they need to join gangs and sell drugs, which is obviously created out of a hopelessness growing up in an impoverished, inner city environment).
But what is also overlooked by media sensationalism and everyone having a twitter account with which to hype up both "epidemics" (blacks believe there's a cop-on-black violence epidemic, and conservative whites believe there's a black crime epidemic) is the massive decline in the homicide rate, even in black communities. Judging by the nightly news, you'd think Chicago is some kind of war zone. But when you look at the stats, violence has declined.
And my point about drugs is illustrated in that graph. Just look at how murders ed during the 90's crack epidemic. Here's Los Angeles, well known for its "Crack Wars."
Let's look at the US murder rate in during Prohibition:
About the same as during the crack war 90's and twice as low as today. Yet the 20's were the good old days and today we're living in an apocalyptic war-zone per the media. This also highlights how immigrants/minorities are drawn to illicit trade because of the lack-of-opportunity (real or perceived) they have due to discrimination. In prohibition days, it was Italians and the Irish. In the drug-war days of today, it's blacks.
Yes, it could always be better, but the propaganda and overreaction from both sides are just going to further divide us and stoke even more hatred and violence, when the fact is the phenomena that both sides are complaining about (cop violence/black crime) have been in steep decline and/or not significantly disproportional.
Don't watch the news and stay the off social media. They warp reality into something not representative of the actual.
Yes, as I said:
not to mention the sociological reasons of why inner city blacks feel they need to join gangs and sell drugs, which is obviously created out of a hopelessness growing up in an impoverished, inner city environment
damn op...back at it again with the race baiting thread
Good call.
When you're young and dumb,
and have 0 options,
IN A TY ECONOMY,
it won't be long be drugs and violence happen.
Unless you are very strong willed.
Most aren't...
Any social scientist or criminologist worth their salt will tell you that the family structure, not poverty, is the best predictor of crime. Personal morality and opportunism are also major factors, especially earlier in life.
Blaming it all on the economy sounds intuitive, but in reality, it's just a way for the left to shake down the taxpayers even more while not addressing the actual issues.
The more you take off the partisan blinders and think about it, the more absurd the"poverty"
Nope, crime is the result of poor character, a lack of morals, and (for the most part) coming from a broken home where it's harder to learn good values.
Last edited by Clipper Nation; 07-13-2016 at 06:37 PM.
Damn bro, from someone who grew up in poverty and in a third world country too, I'd say this is damn good stuff.Any social scientist or criminologist worth their salt will tell you that the family structure, not poverty, is the best predictor of crime. Personal morality and opportunism are also major factors, especially earlier in life.
Blaming it all on the economy sounds intuitive, but in reality, it's just a way for the left to shake down the taxpayers even more while not addressing the actual issues.
The more you take off the partisan blinders and think about it, the more absurd the
The way this issue has become overly politicized and used as race-bait (on both sides) is counterproductive. There isn't some "out-of-control epidemic" of racist cops purposely hunting down minority suspects. Some numbers:
Some will argue that these numbers are "proof" of the problem since blacks are about 2.5 times more likely to be killed by law enforcement, but the sad fact is that blacks are about 10 times more likely to commit a homicide than whites, so you can say there's nothing really disproportionately eye-opening here.
It would be more productive for both sides to argue over what the root cause is that is putting so many blacks in these situations where something like getting shot by law enforcement is a possibility. And I think the overwhelming root cause is drugs (not to mention the sociological reasons of why inner city blacks feel they need to join gangs and sell drugs, which is obviously created out of a hopelessness growing up in an impoverished, inner city environment).
But what is also overlooked by media sensationalism and everyone having a twitter account with which to hype up both "epidemics" (blacks believe there's a cop-on-black violence epidemic, and conservative whites believe there's a black crime epidemic) is the massive decline in the homicide rate, even in black communities. Judging by the nightly news, you'd think Chicago is some kind of war zone. But when you look at the stats, violence has declined.
And my point about drugs is illustrated in that graph. Just look at how murders ed during the 90's crack epidemic. Here's Los Angeles, well known for its "Crack Wars."
Let's look at the US murder rate in during Prohibition:
About the same as during the crack war 90's and twice as low as today. Yet the 20's were the good old days and today we're living in an apocalyptic war-zone per the media. This also highlights how immigrants/minorities are drawn to illicit trade because of the lack-of-opportunity (real or perceived) they have due to discrimination. In prohibition days, it was Italians and the Irish. In the drug-war days of today, it's blacks.
Yes, it could always be better, but the propaganda and overreaction from both sides are just going to further divide us and stoke even more hatred and violence, when the fact is the phenomena that both sides are complaining about (cop violence/black crime) have been in steep decline and/or not significantly disproportional.
Don't watch the news and stay the off social media. They warp reality into something not representative of the actual.
This is the most coherent, factually-supported, and overall solid analysis on police brutality that I've read. Nicely done.
I would also like to add that police don't appear to be properly trained to handle these "perceived threat" situations, nor do I hear much talk about addressing implicit bias. Implicit bias against those of color is a real thing, and if I got training for it as a medical student, then a police officer sure as had better get training for it as well. It's not as if most of the officers are on a manhunt, but many of them do carry prejudices due to upbringing/lack of education/personal experience.
Also doesn't help that we have a gun-packing/gun-toting society, which can and probably should put a police officer on edge (see the Minnesota incident from last week, for example), but I digress...
I'd understand the poverty excuse if this is what poverty looked like in America:
But not only do the majority of poor Americans own the modern appliances I mentioned in my last post, 42% of poor Americans own their own home. An additional 40% live in an apartment. And unlike the malnourished poor in the third world, studies show that the poorest communities in America are also the most prone to obesity.
There is no excuse. It is bad character and poor morals that drive crime in America, whether it's gang violence in poor urban communities or white-collar crimes playing out in boardrooms. The race-baiting media would rather turn blue-collar criminals into martyrs, turn the police into the enemy, play fast and loose with the facts and stir up useless race and class warfare than talk about the real issues.
I'm with him too! I'm tired of black on black crime going unsolved, no marching for justice, an oyeah, niccas using the ole "DON'T SNITCH".. But want justice for someone who tussling with cops. Gtfoh..... No one deserves to die, but we as blacks need to focus on our real problem. US killing US. For every 1 white man killing a black, It's at least 9 blacks that has killed another blac . It's sad as ... But because He an people like him (ME) speaks truths about our own kind. Your labeled as a sellout or Uncle tom. Yes Black lives matter, but only when it's a Life taken by another race.. Never matters in black on black crime. We turn away from that an don't SNITCH.Smh, this niggr is so out of touch, tbh, almost on Dad Killer's level..using White people's "Black on Black crime" argument
People need to stop comparing police officers that are trained and paid to protect the public vs. 17-year old gangbangers..what a standard to set
I agree the media blows the copKilla deaths out of proportion. But that is the sympton, the cause is this:
Sen. Tim Scott reveals incidents of being targeted by Capitol Police
By LOUIS NELSON
07/13/16 07:04 PM EDT
Tim Scott delivered a powerful and deeply personal speech from the Senate floor on Wednesday in which he detailed how, even inside the Capitol building, the relationship between law enforcement and the black community can be strained.
The South Carolina senator spoke of multiple instances in which he felt he had been unfairly targeted by police because of the color of his skin, including one encounter with the U.S. Capitol Police. Scott, who is black, said that as recently as last year he was stopped by a Capitol Police officer who did not recognize him as a senator even though he was wearing his member’s pin.
“The pin, I know. You, I don’t,” Scott recalled the officer saying with “a little at ude.” Scott said the tone of the encounter suggested that the officer believed he was impersonating a senator.
The South Carolina Republican said he received a call later that evening from a Capitol Police supervisor apologizing for the officer’s behavior. It was the third such call he has received from either the chief of the Capitol Police or a supervisor since joining the Senate in 2013, he said.
Scott said that in the course of one year as an elected official, he was stopped seven times by law enforcement. And while in some of those instances he was speeding, Scott said the “vast majority” of those encounters were the result of “nothing more than driving a new car in the wrong neighborhood or some other reason just as trivial.”
Scott’s remarks punctuate a particularly raw period in the nation, after two black men were fatally shot by police in separate incidents in Louisiana and Minnesota last week. Also last week, during a peaceful protest in Dallas, a gunman opened fire on police, killing five officers and wounding nine others.
During his speech, Scott also shared the story of a former staffer of his who drove a Chrysler 300, “a nice car without any question, but not a Ferrari.” The staffer wound up selling that car out of frustration after being pulled over too often in Washington, D.C., “for absolutely no reason other than for driving a nice car.” He told a similar story of his brother, a command sergeant major in the U.S. Army, who was pulled over by an officer su ious that the car Scott’s brother was driving was stolen because it was a Volvo.
“I have felt the anger, the frustration, the sadness and the humiliation that comes with feeling like you’re being targeted for nothing more than being just yourself,” Scott said.
None of the encounters, Scott said, or others like them, should lead anyone to feel it necessary to break the law. Nor should it cloud the respect the public should rightly feel for law enforcement officers “who go beyond the call of duty.” But Scott pleaded in his remarks that the issues African-Americans face in dealing with law enforcement not be ignored.
“I simply ask you this: Recognize that just because you do not feel the pain, the anguish of another, does not mean it does not exist,” he said. “To ignore their struggles, our struggles, does not make them disappear. It will simply leave you blind and the American family very vulnerable.”
African being Africans tbh fam
True.Any social scientist or criminologist worth their salt will tell you that the family structure, not poverty, is the best predictor of crime. Personal morality and opportunism are also major factors, especially earlier in life.
Blaming it all on the economy sounds intuitive, but in reality, it's just a way for the left to shake down the taxpayers even more while not addressing the actual issues.
The more you take off the partisan blinders and think about it, the more absurd the
Nope, crime is the result of poor character, a lack of morals, and (for the most part) coming from a broken home where it's harder to learn good values.
There are no excuses.
But those that such are many,
many pieces to a very ed up pie...
Calm the down dude and let Kool school your ass...ok cool...now listen and learn....
First off the old cliche not to snitch is nothing but street Lingo for we're going to get revenge ourselves channeling the old Biblical principal of an eye for an eye....but its a side issue any way because anyone that has watched the first 48 knows that the first in that interrogation room is singing like a flick of canary's....but like I said its a side issue so stop trying to convolute it with the greater context of black lives Matter....
Is there a black on black crime problem ? Yes there is but again 90 +% of those crimes and up in convictions....Conversely Cops in 90 + % of the cases get to walk....thats the issue at hand...Cops have more power than lawyers, judges, federal judges, and Supreme court Justices because Cops are the only group of people in the WORLD that can stop you, judge you, find you guilty and then execute you on the spot....they get to bypass every law on the books and yet their sworn in to uphold it....
You are so ing blind to the real issue its a ing shame...you seem like one of those uppity Negroes who got a little money thrown at him....got a good job and now you running around this mutha er with a ing American Pride Donald Trump hat on...get the outta here dude....blacks like you are a dime a dozen...you think you know but you have no ing idea because while you may be educated its still limited....
What I suggest you do is listen to Obama's speech at the cop funeral in Dallas and maybe just maybe you will start to get a ing clue.... s like you piss me off to no end....because you act like you know when you really don't...
You saw what happened to the Harvard Law Professor Louis Gates years ago..when he was detained for trying to get into his own house after he showed ID....the Cops treat us all the same whether we are Neuro Surgeons or common thugs it doesn't matter and that's what your ass don't quite understand....this is way bigger than black on black crime so stop trying to pivot the issues..
Something else I don't like s like you always want to complain with a passion about the problems in the black community which is fine but I sure don't hear your ass talking about the problems in the white community with that same passion....and until you're willing to do that keep your ing mouth shut dude...
Lots of great men paved the way for people to protest...they called MLK and Malcolm terrorists and trouble makers for protesting they called the civil rights marchers thugs as well so learn your ing history before you go capping off at the mouth...protest is an important part of advancing rights its an important part of progress....right now you just sound like an uneducated puppet for the white man real talk ...
Wake up Negro
Lil bro you have no clue who I am or where I come from. So to diss me cuz you don't agree with my point of view, is where we differ. I know the cops are dirty!!! I grew up in the hood an had your mindset. I'm 38yrs old an I Drive the Dart bus. I only drive in the hood, so your right. I don't know about white People or what they do. But I do know what my people do. I know in the hood it's always young black men getting killed by other blacks. I know innocent kids die all the time in drive- bys. I'm tired of seeing young blacks die, especially ones that's innocent. But you sound like the type to wanna blame the white man for your ups instead of manning up an fixing your own . I've had felonies, jacked for rims, profiled by cops, beefed with cops too in my younger days. Then I wised the up. I got out of trouble an have been a role model citizen every since. If you've never been facing Attempted manslaughter with a vehicle on a public servant... Don't tell me son. I'm a ass responsible man now. You don't know about me or where I'm from. Wake up an realize you dumb s are killing your dam selves waaaaaay more than some white cop. An getting away with it cuz no one ever tell who did it.Calm the down dude and let Kool school your ass...ok cool...
First off the old cliche not to snitch is nothing but street Lingo for we're going to get revenge ourselves channeling the old Biblical principal of an eye for an eye....but its a side issue any way because anyone that has watched the first 48 knows that the first in that interrogation room is singing like a flick of canary's....but like I said its a side issue so stop trying to convolute it with the greater context of black lives Matter....
Is there a black on black crime problem ? Yes there is but again 90 +% of those crimes and up in convictions....Conversely Cops in 90 + % of the cases get to walk....thats the issue at hand...Cops have more power than lawyers, judges, federal judges, and Supreme court Justices because Cops are the only group of people in the WORLD that can stop you, judge you, find you guilty and then execute you on the spot....they get to bypass every law on the books and yet their sworn in to uphold it....
You are so ing blind to the real issue its a ing shame...you seem like one of those uppity Negroes who got a little money thrown at him....got a good job and now you running around this mutha er with a ing American Pride Donald Trump hat on...get the outta here dude....blacks like you are a dime a dozen...you think you know but you have no ing idea because while you may be educated its still limited....
What I suggest you do is listen to Obama's speech at the cop funeral in Dallas and maybe just maybe you will start to get a ing clue.... s like you piss me off to no end....because you act like you know when you really don't...
You saw what happened to the Harvard Law Professor Louis Gates years ago..when he was detained for trying to get into his own house after he showed ID....the Cops treat us all the same whether we are Neuro Surgeons or common thugs it doesn't matter and that's what your ass don't quite understand....this is way bigger than black on black crime so stop trying to pivot the issues..
Something else I don't like s like you always want to complain with a passion about the problems in the black community which is fine but I sure don't hear your ass talking about the problems in the white community with that same passion....and until you're willing to do that keep your ing mouth shut dude...
Lots of great men paved the way for people to protest...they called MLK and Malcolm terrorists and trouble makers for protesting they called the civil rights marchers thugs as well so learn your ing history before you go capping off at the mouth...protest is an important part of advancing rights its an important part of progress....right now you just sound like an uneducated puppet for the white man real talk ...
Wake up Negro
Thanks for your concern, but the white community is all good.Calm the down dude and let Kool school your ass...ok cool...
First off the old cliche not to snitch is nothing but street Lingo for we're going to get revenge ourselves channeling the old Biblical principal of an eye for an eye....but its a side issue any way because anyone that has watched the first 48 knows that the first in that interrogation room is singing like a flick of canary's....but like I said its a side issue so stop trying to convolute it with the greater context of black lives Matter....
Is there a black on black crime problem ? Yes there is but again 90 +% of those crimes and up in convictions....Conversely Cops in 90 + % of the cases get to walk....thats the issue at hand...Cops have more power than lawyers, judges, federal judges, and Supreme court Justices because Cops are the only group of people in the WORLD that can stop you, judge you, find you guilty and then execute you on the spot....they get to bypass every law on the books and yet their sworn in to uphold it....
You are so ing blind to the real issue its a ing shame...you seem like one of those uppity Negroes who got a little money thrown at him....got a good job and now you running around this mutha er with a ing American Pride Donald Trump hat on...get the outta here dude....blacks like you are a dime a dozen...you think you know but you have no ing idea because while you may be educated its still limited....
What I suggest you do is listen to Obama's speech at the cop funeral in Dallas and maybe just maybe you will start to get a ing clue.... s like you piss me off to no end....because you act like you know when you really don't...
You saw what happened to the Harvard Law Professor Louis Gates years ago..when he was detained for trying to get into his own house after he showed ID....the Cops treat us all the same whether we are Neuro Surgeons or common thugs it doesn't matter and that's what your ass don't quite understand....this is way bigger than black on black crime so stop trying to pivot the issues..
Something else I don't like s like you always want to complain with a passion about the problems in the black community which is fine but I sure don't hear your ass talking about the problems in the white community with that same passion....and until you're willing to do that keep your ing mouth shut dude...
Lots of great men paved the way for people to protest...they called MLK and Malcolm terrorists and trouble makers for protesting they called the civil rights marchers thugs as well so learn your ing history before you go capping off at the mouth...protest is an important part of advancing rights its an important part of progress....right now you just sound like an uneducated puppet for the white man real talk ...
Wake up Negro
The black lives matter movement can itself in its hypocritical ass. The movement would actually matter if they focus on all black lives, not just the ones taken away by white people.
All lives matter, and all are equal in the eyes of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
More white men kill cops than any other race. All soooooo no, It's not good in the white community.
You should stick to issues you're versed in (this one) and avoid those you have no idea what you're talking about (Kobe v. Duncan)Calm the down dude and let Kool school your ass...ok cool...
First off the old cliche not to snitch is nothing but street Lingo for we're going to get revenge ourselves channeling the old Biblical principal of an eye for an eye....but its a side issue any way because anyone that has watched the first 48 knows that the first in that interrogation room is singing like a flick of canary's....but like I said its a side issue so stop trying to convolute it with the greater context of black lives Matter....
Is there a black on black crime problem ? Yes there is but again 90 +% of those crimes and up in convictions....Conversely Cops in 90 + % of the cases get to walk....thats the issue at hand...Cops have more power than lawyers, judges, federal judges, and Supreme court Justices because Cops are the only group of people in the WORLD that can stop you, judge you, find you guilty and then execute you on the spot....they get to bypass every law on the books and yet their sworn in to uphold it....
You are so ing blind to the real issue its a ing shame...you seem like one of those uppity Negroes who got a little money thrown at him....got a good job and now you running around this mutha er with a ing American Pride Donald Trump hat on...get the outta here dude....blacks like you are a dime a dozen...you think you know but you have no ing idea because while you may be educated its still limited....
What I suggest you do is listen to Obama's speech at the cop funeral in Dallas and maybe just maybe you will start to get a ing clue.... s like you piss me off to no end....because you act like you know when you really don't...
You saw what happened to the Harvard Law Professor Louis Gates years ago..when he was detained for trying to get into his own house after he showed ID....the Cops treat us all the same whether we are Neuro Surgeons or common thugs it doesn't matter and that's what your ass don't quite understand....this is way bigger than black on black crime so stop trying to pivot the issues..
Something else I don't like s like you always want to complain with a passion about the problems in the black community which is fine but I sure don't hear your ass talking about the problems in the white community with that same passion....and until you're willing to do that keep your ing mouth shut dude...
Lots of great men paved the way for people to protest...they called MLK and Malcolm terrorists and trouble makers for protesting they called the civil rights marchers thugs as well so learn your ing history before you go capping off at the mouth...protest is an important part of advancing rights its an important part of progress....right now you just sound like an uneducated puppet for the white man real talk ...
Wake up Negro
Kool with the post of the year right here.
Kool
anxious to hear Dale's take Thread
Last edited by Splits; 07-13-2016 at 09:43 PM.
I understand your frustration but my point is a greater context point...I recognize the problems and acknowledge them but most of those problems are a direct result of systemic issues in our society that's been in place for decades.. Yes there is culpabity on both sides I don't have to blame anyone let alone the white man...facts of culpability speak for themselves...I'm not gonna get in the weeds with you...you done a lot of ing up....I haven't.... but just as you grew out of your bull behavior others will too I'm sure...but if they don't then they are a lost cause but what I'm fighting for is equality in the eyes of the law....because Cops are sworn to uphold it....a thug pulls up on me starts and theres gun play that ends in his death I will likely walk...a rouge and bad cop does the same thing and I'm a convicted cop killer...so no it's not equal at the moment...I'm fighting for the rights of decent blacks vis-a-vis black lives Matter if the thug benefits from that then fine...but as I suspected you're thinking from a one sided experience I'm thinking from both sides of the coin per my mixed experiences....I've lived around poor blacks and rich whites so we have different perspectives....that's also a nugget for my haters trying to figure me out
But fact is we need to hold those sworn to uphold the law to a higher standard...based on all the you've admitted you've done I could view you as a crimnal and look down on you like Cops do but you are changed man....how would you feel to be stopped and then busted upside your head or worse yet shot by a cop because of your history and because your black? Well I don't have your criminal history and I'm subject to be treated the same way....I'm not sure if you even get the point
Like the Apostle Paul said..I'm all things to all people
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