Hillary actually got more votes than Bernie, but people who didn't care much for either, were swayed by Hillary and the press counting her pledged delegates, back in Feb, before they officially can pledge at the convention.
Hillary will move to the center after the election. If she folds to the left progressive element she loses the independents. If she leans to the center independents she still gets the progressives by being a more palatable option than Trump.
I don't see Hillary's ego letting her choose Warren who is a more popular female than she is.
I've already told you that the electorate is changing. We just got through two terms of a minority president and he was able to pass health care reform when noone else has been able to do for 40 years. It will take one more anti-Citizens United justice to get that law changed and it's an issue in the current election. I don't like Hillary but at least she will change that.
A candidate whose views are very in tune with my own harnessed the burgeoning demographic and almost made it. We'll be stronger next cycle.
You're a coward and a quitter.
Like you are in a position to knwo such things. You think everyone thinks like you which is just false.
Who's to say he didn't try? It's well publicized that he didn't get everything that he wanted.
Pot/Kettle/Black
I've seen a of a lot more elections than you have.
I'm not the one making claims, dimwit. AGain this is the first election since the 1960s where your demographic didn't dominate the electorate. It subsumes your attempt at big timing, pedobear.
By saying I am wrong, you are, head.
I'm saying that your not in a position to make such claims. There is a difference but nuance is hard for you with your one track mind.
Just sit back and watch. Bernie will be irrelevant after his 15 minutes of fame at the convention. Hillary is going to disappoint the out of progressives.
Which is a good thing.
It's interesting watching you constnatly hedging your expectations. You wishcast like Darrin and WC so it's little surprise. It's a new electorate, pedobear, but keep being hidebound. It typifies you.
Hillary knows exactly where her bread is buttered and it isn't through Bernie fans $25 donations.
You are the wishcaster .
Hillary is going to disappoint the out of you.
Bothwell leaves Democrats over Clinton
ASHEVILLE - One of the city's most outspoken Democrats, Cecil Bothwell, says he's left the party over its choice of presidential candidates, leveling strong criticism at Hillary Clinton and calling the former secretary of state "entirely untrustworthy" and "a felon."
"Bernie Sanders announced the end of his campaign this morning by endorsing Clinton. As of an hour ago I am registered unaffiliated for the first time since I cast my first vote in 1968," Bothwell, who is a city councilman, said in a Tuesday Facebook post.
The post generated more than 100 comments from those supporting and opposing the move, including fellow Councilman Gordon Smith who defended Sanders' endorsement of Clinton. Bothwell, whose Facebook profile picture is a Sanders' campaign sign, responded to the comments with the strong criticisms of Clinton and saying he was "pretty sure a (Donald) Trump presidency would be the best outcome for the Democratic Party."
Bothwell is known as a firebrand who didn't shy away from conflict with other Democrats, most recently on issues including his opposition to the city ban on short-term vacation rentals in residential neighborhoods and his support for turning city-owned property on Haywood Street into a downtown park.
After his initial post Bothwell responded to some commenters who questioned whether he was being extreme and who said Clinton had agreed to incorporate some of Sanders' positions.
Bothwell said Clinton could not be trusted to carry out those promises and that the election of the Republican Trump might galvanize Democrats around progressive issues.
"I detest Trump and his made-for-reality-TV campaign," he said. "But I'm pretty sure a Trump presidency would be the best outcome for the Democratic Party. The DNC seems to have abandoned the people, the DNC congressional leaders seem to have joined the oligarchy. What more can we possibly do to create a revolution within the party beyond urging everyone we know to vote for (Green Party nominee Jill) Stein?"
Smith and some others pointed out that Sanders had said Clinton was the most viable candidate. The councilman called Bothwell's Trump comments a "burn the village in order to save it" philosophy.
At one point Bothwell called Clinton a "felon," "congenital liar" and "beyond the pale of ... human normalcy."
Asked Wednesday about the strong language, Bothwell said Clinton is "at bare minimum" a perjurer and her sworn Congressional testimony about her handling of classified information as head of the State Department was false according to the FBI director. He said he thought she would take the country into war, approve bad trade deals and increase "corporate control."
Buncombe County Democratic Party Chairwoman Kathy Sinclair thanked Bothwell for "his dedication to the community" and commitment to support local Democratic candidates in the fall.
But Sinclair said the best way to support Sanders' ideas was to help elect Clinton.
The party chairwoman said Sanders had "contributed to creating the most progressive platform ever."
"His supporters participating in the election of Hillary Clinton as our next Democratic president will be a display of loyalty to Senator Sanders, and the only way his contributions can move forward," she said.
Sinclair did not respond to questions about Bothwell's specific criticisms of Clinton or whether she was concerned that others might follow him out of the party.
http://experience.usatoday.com/story...nton/87035754/
Again, I'm not the one making claims about Hillary or the dem party. I made the OP a question after all, dimwit.
I have no expectations of Hillary and think she is Obama 2.0. Speak for yourself has been my comment to you because you suck at speaking for others.
I also don't dumb down into fixating on POTUS. The party platform is important in legislative session and I think it is an improvement over what the dems have put out before. I'm interested in progress and not getting everything I want like a spoiled child.
Your demographic is about to be marginalized as you guys die off and more and more millennials reach their majority. I expect I will enjoy the next 20 years much more than you. Your turn is over.
ACA was the ONLY biggie the Dems got done, and not one Repug voted for it. And the Repugs have been sabotaging everything for 8 years.
Then, for the 2012 elections, after the 2010 redistricting, "redmap" slaughtered the Dems in Congress, and Repugs monopolized 20 states legislatures and governorships. Also, Repug SCOTUS gutted the VRA. Repug gerrrymandering, redistricting is solidifying their state level dominance, which is a huge help in putting and keeping their assholes in Congress.
yes, the electorate is changing, but it won't make any difference in red states, and is very iffy in purple states.
C-U has given the 1%/BigCorp even more enormous powers to buy elections. They're even attacking municipal and school board elections.
So you still, feckless assholes, haven't described a practical path to combat all the above.
"electorate is changing" isn't a plan.
Watch the Repugs lose the WH, but destroy at the state and local levels, and maintain enough of their assholes in Congress to block ALL progress.
That isn't the only thing and it disproves your universal anyway.
It isn't a plan. It's reality and for some reason you fight it. Youre a coward of the worst sort.
what other big "thing" did the Dems get passed.
The Iran deal was huge, but that was the Exec only.
Treaties have to be ratified by the senate. Also Warren helped push through Dodd-Frank. Youre basically whining about the slow pace of US government as if that is anything new.what other big "thing" did the Dems get passed.
The Iran deal was huge, but that was the Exec only.
Again the electorate is changing with a massive new demographic entering the booth. They were very clear this cycle in what they want and while I'm not in a position to take advantage of it I'm not worried that someone else like Bernie will moving forward.
Times are beginning to change and that is soemthing that I have been talking about for quite some time. Millennials are now the US's largest demographic.
Bernie bros are booty blasted all over the internet check out the huff post comment section or
https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident
Your Millenial wishcasting is hilarious. "Free everything for all! It's the right thing to do! You old people suck and are dying!"
Like working millenials are going to stay idealistically "progressive" into their middle age when they realize their take home after taxes isn't .
Your characterizations are stupid. Bernie had a payroll and speculation transaction tax to fund his proposals. You are parroting your fox news stupidity which is what I've come to expect. I really enjoyed it when you used their slogan to try and say they were impartial.Your Millenial wishcasting is hilarious. "Free everything for all! It's the right thing to do! You old people suck and are dying!"
Like working millenials are going to stay idealistically "progressive" into their middle age when they realize their take home after taxes isn't .
What I would expect would be a cut into your boomer gravy train and you don't have the votes to stop it, pedobear.
I am comfortably set with or without Social Security, loser.
And Bernie's plan to pay for the free stuff was a joke just like you.
Bernies 25 minute speech today and zero mentions of Hillary. Guess the love fest is over.
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/the...minute-speech/
I do want to get my social security when the time comes, but I too, have my own retirement account. It galls the out of me that liberals want me to pay even more in taxation, when I easily contribute more than $20K annual already.
Those supporting the current political democrat ideals are losers. There is no nice way to put it. They are losers because they want other people's money, or because they are too blind to really see what the left is doing.
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