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    I'm still in disbelieve that we're paying a 39 year old injury proned turnover machine $14 million. Is this really happening?

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    Boban cost $5.6 million to match, and Manu's hold was $4.4 million. If Spurs were willing not to bring over Bertans and LJC AND replace them with minimum salary guys, then you might have a point. But it was Boban+two min guys, or Manu+LJC+Bertans
    Assuming your calculation is based on avoiding luxury tax. Boban was worth a little bit of luxury tax. Spurs cheaped out. And Boban's contract would've been great for year two, which is realistically what the Spurs should be shooting for in a mini rebuild.

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    I'm still in disbelieve that we're paying a 39 year old injury proned turnover machine $14 million. Is this really happening?
    Back pay, dude. You think there wasn't some sort of understanding in place when guys like Manu were taking pay cuts so they could get certain players and make it to finals?

    Though frankly, Manu is better than much of the other sh** being signed for $10 mil plus in this league.

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    I'm still in disbelieve that we're paying a 39 year old injury proned turnover machine $14 million. Is this really happening?

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    I'm still in disbelieve that we're paying a 39 year old injury proned turnover machine $14 million. Is this really happening?
    He's only 34.

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    hahaha... you sly dog

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    I'm still in disbelieve that we're paying a 39 year old injury proned turnover machine $14 million. Is this really happening?
    This...Manu would have a hard time starting on the Toros at this point.

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    This...Manu would have a hard time starting on the Toros at this point.

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    Why are you guys so pissed at losing him? Upset with Manu and thinking that if Manu would have taken less, we could have kept Boban. Or signing him over others.

    You do realize that he isn't going to last more than a couple of years. It would take that time for him to get everything down. Then by the time he knew the Spurs system in and out, he wouldn't be able to play anymore because of his knees and feet. The guy has to have some form of gigantism and it's not going to be a long career for him. He is only going to thrive in very limited minutes and more than likely would have only ever been used in garbage time.
    Dumbasses with an agenda using Boban as an excuse to on Manu. If Ginobili had taken even less than he did last year, the Spurs might have had a chance to match. Completely unrealistic.

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    Lol what is so great about Boban?

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    Splitter was a garbage time player when he got here as well. Pop was stupid for not playing Boban earlier in the OKC series just like he was when he benched Tiago in 2011 against Memphis tbh
    Splitter was a far more proven player when he came to the Spurs, and Pop didn't play him most of the year, only giving him minutes when the Spurs were getting curbstomped in the playoffs. He certainly didn't bench him.

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    Splitter was a far more proven player when he came to the Spurs, and Pop didn't play him most of the year, only giving him minutes when the Spurs were getting curbstomped in the playoffs. He certainly didn't bench him.
    How was he far more proven? Lmao. They were both winners and MVP's in Europe.

    Boban had the better first season, and it really isn't debatable.

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    Lol what is so great about Boban?
    He produced on the court when called, even with scarce minutes.

    In a league that's paying Jon Leuer 40M over 4 years. A guy with these numbers would've been paid 5.6M in the first year, 5.9M in the second, and 9.5M in the third:

    Per-36 (measures how good his production was with limited min)
    21.0Pts, 13.7Reb, 1.5Apg, 1.6Blk, 0.9Stl, 60.3FG%, 76.3FT%

    Advanced
    27.7PER, 66.2TS%, .325 WS/48, 3.6BPM, 21.7 TRB%



    What your post should've been was....

    Lol what is so great about Manu?
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    He produced on the court when called, even with scarce minutes.

    In a league that's paying Jon Leuer 40M over 4 years. A guy with these numbers would've been paid 5.6M in the first year, 5.9M in the second, and 9.5M in the third:

    Per-36 (measures how good his production was with limited min)
    21.0Pts, 13.7Reb, 1.5Apg, 1.6Blk, 0.9Stl, 60.3FG%, 76.3FT%

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    27.7PER, 66.2TS%, .325 WS/48, 3.6BPM, 21.7 TRB%



    What your post should've been was....
    Nonsense, Bon Bon is a stats king too and in reality is a scrub, Boban is not bad but he is slow, Mozgov is older and faster and so Porzingis also he is turnover prone and system player lets see how well he plays in a ty team.

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    Boban was a fan-favorite but not worth retaining at a high cost. I agree with most of what you said. Garbage time player who was not a particularly strong rebounder or defender.

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    We didn't have bird rights so Boban could not have been retained whereas we could go over the cap to sign Manu with Bird rights. Gasol was already taking a market discount so we would have had to trade Patty or something like that to keep Boban.

    The anger should be at Detroit for poaching our bigs two years in a row but he deserves the money so I cannot be too mad. At least he didn't go to the Lakers or something like that.

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    How was he far more proven? Lmao. They were both winners and MVP's in Europe.

    Boban had the better first season, and it really isn't debatable.
    Okay. That's why he didn't get drafted, dude.

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    Okay. That's why he didn't get drafted, dude.
    Drafted proven

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    How was he far more proven? Lmao. They were both winners and MVP's in Europe.

    Boban had the better first season, and it really isn't debatable.
    Tiago was way more proven than Boban. Boban has literally had only 2 years playing significant minutes at the top level, whereas Tiago was a major player on a very good, perennial Euroleague team for 5-6 years.

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    Okay. That's why he didn't get drafted, dude.
    Youre back door logic here is failing. European prospects with the way the teams use contracts to leverage and the like is not a simple thing. If I remember correctly Boban lost a big chunk of change to get out of his balkan league contract before he came over.

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    Tiago was way more proven than Boban. Boban has literally had only 2 years playing significant minutes at the top level, whereas Tiago was a major player on a very good, perennial Euroleague team for 5-6 years.
    Which would you rather have:

    Player that takes 2 years to reach MVP level or
    Player that take 5 years?

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    Ginobli aint been 34 in 5 years. 2016-1977 is not 34 in any form of math.

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    Ginobli aint been 34 in 5 years. 2016-1977 is not 34 in any form of math.
    you missed the joke

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    you missed the joke
    yeah I did, but he's just as bad as Parker. It's basically a debate over who hurts us the most.

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