2016 -2017 Expectations for Anderson and Simmons

[Spurtacular]

Anderson: traded
Simmons: 16MPG, 8PPG, 3APG, 3RPG

Simmons won't be averaging 3APG; not this year, anyways.

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Kyle: If he doesn't play some type of defense, his other stats almost don't matter unless he's putting up great numbers.

Simmons: He's going to find his way out of San Antonio if he plays like he did in summer league

Bertans: Too many wrong conclusions to jump to based on one game.

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Kyle: If he doesn't play some type of defense, his other stats almost don't matter unless he's putting up great numbers.

Simmons: He's going to find his way out of San Antonio if he plays like he did in summer league

Bertans: Too many wrong conclusions to jump to based on one game.

Summer League wasn't his first pro game, ballah.
I'm not saying he's going to be a contendah, but he has skills that translate to the big leagues.
His stroke will be the same no matter what court he steps on. It's quick, accurate and he's tall.

I'm of the opinion that if he can get with the team concept of their defense without too many mental errors...
He's got a spot and minutes on this team.

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Summer League wasn't his first pro game, ballah.
I'm not saying he's going to be a contendah, but he has skills that translate to the big leagues.
His stroke will be the same no matter what court he steps on. It's quick, accurate and he's tall.

I'm of the opinion that if he can get with the team concept of their defense without too many mental errors...
He's got a spot and minutes on this team.

I'm of the same opinion. Whether or not we like it, one game ain't enough to know for sure.

[tonight...you]

I'm of the same opinion. Whether or not we like it, one game ain't enough to know for sure.

I get you on the solo summer league game, but he does have a body of work overseas (which the talent is nearly the same, but sometimes more organized) and he was the same guy.
You can acknowledge that, right?

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Granted defense will matter, not just for Anderson but Simmons and Bertans as well.
Granted efficiency matters for all three.
Given that there seems to be a significant number of people to wax on with a dearth of what they consider reasonable expectations for actual numbers.

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I get you on the solo summer league game, but he does have a body of work overseas (which the talent is nearly the same, but sometimes more organized) and he was the same guy.
You can acknowledge that, right?

Yeah, but Spanoulis and Jasikevicius were better players overseas and they were moist in the NBA.

I really like Bertans. Like I'm super excited to see what he can do. He's made an impact where he's restored my hope that this season can be salvaged. I'm dying to write a big long post about how trading George Hill completely revitalized the franchise. And I will as soon as I see enough to confirm my hopes. For now, in my opinion, there's just no way to know. Maybe he's Tony Kukoc, and maybe he's Jan Vesely.

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Yeah, but Spanoulis and Jasikevicius were better players overseas and they were moist in the NBA.

I really like Bertans. Like I'm super excited to see what he can do. He's made an impact where he's restored my hope that this season can be salvaged. I'm dying to write a big long post about how trading George Hill completely revitalized the franchise. And I will as soon as I see enough to confirm my hopes. For now, in my opinion, there's just no way to know. Maybe he's Tony Kukoc, and maybe he's Jan Vesely.

In the End, you're right. And when you're right, you're right. And you're right.
I look forward to your long post, should it come to fruition.

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In the End, you're right. And when you're right, you're right. And you're right.
I look forward to your long post, should it come to fruition.

I got all sorts of expectations just ready to throw at this dude.

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I got all sorts of expectations just ready to throw at this dude.

Even though the family patriarch has left the building, I'm excited as for next season.

[ElNono]

I don't have the slightest idea how Pop is going to approach this. Probably one of the things to look at when the season starts.

I do wish the best for both, because we're going to need them.

[tonight...you]

I don't have the slightest idea how Pop is going to approach this. Probably one of the things to look at when the season starts.

I do wish the best for both, because we're going to need them.

I don't even think we're going to get a good feel for this team til around February/March. I think Pop is going to go full blown mad scientist the first few months to find rotations he likes and feels comfortable with moving forward.
There is going to be a metric -ton of griping the first few months. ... all year. ! Every year!

[CGD]

so you want to start the bench from scratch?

Not scratch. I just support selling high on good, but not great, young players that will probably end up costing too much for the Spurs to keep anyway. Why not get a good asset in return, especially if the season isn't going as planned by February?

[CGD]

It's the last season on the cheap for Simmons, Kyle has 2 more at the rookie level and they really need him. Simmons, if Dejounte and Bertans come out balling and become better perimeter players than him through the course of the season, I could also see him lose playing time and being considered for a trade but even then, the Spurs likely hold on to him this season for depth.

And to your point... at some point Spurs will have to start paying their young players $, instead of giving lifetime achievement awards to Manu and Parker. It will be easier to retain Simmons if he turns into a difference maker than luring a difference maker here in the open market bottom line, and if he doesn't turn into that difference maker then farewell to him you let him go.

Also, Crabbe looked like his first two years in the league and it wasn't until his third season when playing time opened up for him that he improved significantly.

Ultimately, I don't have a hot take. Kyle is due for a breakout season and is 22, younger than Crabbe in his own breakout season, young enough to have been a rook coming into this season. Simmons is pretty much what he is. You are unlikely to find a point forward who can shoot the 3 for cheap though and with Manu likely retiring next season, Anderson is a must keep.

You're right that Kyle has more cheap years. I'm cautiously optimistic that he steps up this season, and I think there is a lot riding on it for him this year.

I don't dislike Kyle. In fact, it's because he is an asset that I think he could fetch something good. I laugh on draft night when folks suggest attaching garbage to move up to the high teens. Kyle, like George Hill was, is a legit asset that would actually move the needle for some teams.

[tholdren]

Expectations?

KA - Stop ing up so much.
Simmons - Stop ing up so much.

Over and out.

Maintain a lead

[sasaint]

24/12/8/5. MIP candidate.

My projections/expectations for Kyle are a little more modest: 24m/10p/6r/4a, which I do not expect to put him in the running for MIP. But either Kyle or Bertans has to attain those numbers if the Spurs are to be any kind of contender.

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Hard to say.
It depends on Pop allocating minutes and roles. If they are used in a marginal fashion Pop is indeed going senile.

Yep. If Kyle is below 20-25 mpg, assuming he's better than last year, he's misusing him.

Too versatile.

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Yep. If Kyle is below 20-25 mpg, assuming he's better than last year, he's misusing him.

Too versatile.

Too slow you mean.

[Nathan89]

I have no expectations for Simmons. Anderson will look good as a distributor depending on the off ball play of his teammates. Bertans has great potential to make Anderson shine. Other than that he'll be serviceable on offense if he has a pretty solid 3pt shot.