Yeah you're full of .
Soccer is the most diverse sport in terms of tactics and strategy.
Yeah you're full of .
Soccer is the most diverse sport in terms of tactics and strategy.
The does any of that have to do with baseball involving kindergarten level strategy?
P/S: I could probably get on base a couple times without even swinging, tbh.
That can be easily quantified with relative roster sizes. A simple formula is that the more players involved on your team, the more strategic demands there are. Baseball rosters are 25 deep, just like in the EPL, but in soccer, you can only use 11 men at a time and only 3 subs, meaning a max of 14 players. In baseball, you sometimes have to use 20 players in the actual game (not in something like a shootout).
Also, does a soccer roster need a balance between left and right handed players? (you'll say no, but say they need to be different sizes and speeds. Same applies to baseball). Does a soccer team have to consider the relative difference of field dimensions in their division and league? What's the injury in rate in soccer? Any baseball team that wants to make a run will have about 10-15 prospects ready to be called up if there's an injury to key player. Prospects they need to keep a close eye on all throughout the season to ensure they're developing and can contribute at the moment they're called up.
Also more game played=equals more strategic demands. Baseball played 162 games plus playoffs. What is soccer's advanced stats library like?
I never get when soccer fans talk up the strategy of soccer when they constantly accuse American football or something of being "too strategic and controlled by coaches" versus soccer which is "improvisational" and "creative."
An improvised move can't be a strategy by definition, since strategies are "pre-planned." I see soccer a lot like I see basketball. Coaches lay out a general gameplan and strategy that will be effective against a specific team (i.e. a brute force attack scheme against a grind-it-out Bus parking team), practice the tactics in question (i.e. a lot of side-to-side passing to spread out the Bus parking defense to create gaps for fast breaking players to maybe get into position for a cross) and then leave it to the players to execute.
I think soccer fans overrate the strategy in soccer because it's the only sport they're really familiar with and then they might get into something like basketball (which is the most popular American sport worldwide), see it's shallow depth and then think all American sports are like that or something.
You're so in' stupid. Congrats. You baited me. But try not to talk about something you only have a "I watched baseball on ESPN for 5 minutes, so I know it all" understanding of.
I could get on base a couple of times without swinging
The soccer crew actually believes this.
Of course you need a balance between righties and lefties in soccer son. See? This is why nobody pays attention to your soccer posts. You trully have no idea whatsoever about the sport and it shows.
Didn't even mind reading beyond that part. I had to answer that first. I might have to come back at this post after finishing reading it, tbh.
Show me a breakdown of soccer rosters illustrating this balance? Show me an in depth analysis of how to best balance these right and left-handed players on the roster and how they can potentially matchup with other squads? Show me the statistical break down of how a left handed soccer player does against a right handed goalie, defender, midfielder, etc? Or vice versa?
http://www.baseballamerica.com/major...2TecI44dA2g.97
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...d-hitters.html
http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-...me-rare-120314
Show me similar breakdowns in kickball of how the dynamics change when a left footer kicks the ball or attacks compared to a right footer? Show me the breakdown of how having a certain balance of left/right translates into wins?
Even trying to compare kickball in this instance to baseball.
Soccer crew never fails to amaze.
Just stick to calling baseball boring (you can't even use the fatball description anymore, since I blew that up). Your lot doesn't know jack about the game beyond Bartolo Colon memes.
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A guy that pitches in the best argie baseball league (amateur level but still) once said that many times pitchers can't throw strikes to save their lives and that in those cases an entire lineup of batters wouldn't swing, a third of that lineup would still get on base.
And that is some bag playing in an Argie league dumb ass. Not an MLB player.
I think baseball and soccer are both boring as tbh. But you soccer fans take dumb assery to another level.
Don't feel like searching but there's tons of these kind of s on soccer son. Do you really think these kind of breakdowns are exclusive for a sport as limited as baseball?
But it's not as complicated to realize why soccer needs to have a R/L balance. You have right backs and left backs. right center back and left center back. Left winger and right winger. Left midfielder and right midfielder. Do you think is the same if either a righty or a lefty plays any of those positions? Do you think a rigthy sending a cross from the left would be as effective as a lefty?
Same happens on all levels. How many times have you seen guys out of control walking batters left and right in the MLB?
That also proves how hard baseball is. The fact that the best Argies can't throw strikes consistently.
But MLB pitchers can pretty much throw a strike every time down at 90mph. The only reason there is balls at times is because it would suicide to just throw 90mph fastballs straight down the middle to a major league hitter. You're not a major league hitter, and a 75 mph lob would be enough to strike you out. Also, another misconception the soccer crew has is that you can track pitchers all the way to the plate. Nope. The eye/brain can't track the last 10 or so feet of a 90+mph fastball, and factoring reaction times, you have to judge the pitch and its trajectory at about 20 feet away.
See this pitch? From the batter's perspective, it will look like it's coming right at your chest at that crucial midway point, so the batter lays off, thinking a ball, and then the ball breaks in. You're at home thinking, "Why didn't he swing? I would've swung!"
And this is where the chess game begins? Do I lay off? Is he throwing a fast ball in the zone or a slider? Example:
To you, it looks like a "ball that shouldn't have been swung at," and you're there at home thinking I would've never swung at it. But again, the pitcher will have set up this pitch with a fastball in the zone delivered from the same arm angle, and if it's a pitcher's count, the batter will be forced into protection mode and have to fight off pitches. If the pitcher hits his spot, that slider (a wild looking pitch to you) will look exactly like a fastball to the batter as he readies to swing. Then he swings and whiff. Nothing there.
And this is where the intensive video analysis and scouting reports come in. Batters will be studying a pitcher's delivery looking for tells, variations in arm angle, studying pitch patterns in certain situation, all to be able to better predict what the pitcher will throw and where he'll throw it.
It's not "guy throws hard, guys swings, durrrrr,"
(you'll always be my bro, apologize for calling you stupid, but this annoys me. Did you see in my first post ITT that I didn't even attempt to break down soccer, because I only have a casual understanding of it? Yet the soccer crew thinks they can go into depth on baseball because they saw Bartolo Colon being made fun of on twitter),
Did midnightpul just tried to pass a throw as a strategy?
That's like a sweet banana kick vs Goalkeeper breakdown...that's so low![]()
Yeah, I'm not reading all that. Much less knowing that its goal is to try to sell me the idea that baseball is, somehow, a tactically complex sport.![]()
Yeah, except the flop trot player has 200 square feet to work with compare to 3 sq feet. Try again, Poke Master.
Of course you won't.
I don't expect povertyball fans to understand things with depth.
It's why that "sport" is the 3rd world's favorite game, because anyone can understand it![]()
Socccer. So deep.
Soccer is so "tactically complex" and that a low-rent form of a sagging NFL prevent defense or NBA zone is an "unconquerable" tactic‘The bus’ is the fad at the moment. Though I salute the genius who came up with it, it is hoped that somebody finds a way to conquer it once and for all, simply because the game will lose fans if teams become successful by playing so negatively.
And don't even try to argue against it. The fact that 50% of the games end in 1-0 and 30% of the games end in ties illustrates how effective that simple tactic is.
"Deep"
I guess when soccer is the only game you know, like that seems "deep."
Oh yeah, check out the demos for baseball fans:
Post-graduates make up the majority of baseball fans.
And the least are adults who make under 35K per year household income![]()
200 ft vs 3 ft? Lmao...try another more creative spinning bro
But Europe is also third world![]()
American logic : Everything is third world...look at them, they're not fat enough to be rich..you cant expect me to believe that's a thriving nation when no one is rich enough to stuff their bellies with enough bacon and ham to achieve maximum strenghth and fatness
A good analogy to Baseball tactical complexity is like planning on taking a and positioning your ass and butthole at a specific angle so as to avoid getting your ass wet and to insure goes to water instead of staining the toilet.
Its the same .
That's an interesting figure. Baseball is definitely not easy. I thought it was hard as in little league!Then I said " this" and switched to basketball.
Floptrot fans and baseball haters demonstrate their lack of intelligence (per par, given the fact that baseball fans are post-grads).
SQUARE feet.
Dimensions of soccer goal: 8 x 24=192 square feet.
Dimensions of strike-zone (give or take): 1.5 x 1.5=2.25 square feet
Except those dynamics change as the dribbler closes in..You see unlike fatball, There's actually movement involved in soccer.
Floptrot strategies:
1. Jog around and don't trip over the ball.
2. Park the bus when a miracle happens and you actually score a point.
3. Pray that the elites of your country/region paid the refs more than the elites of the other team's country/region.
"Diverse"
"Tactics"
"Strategy"
Floptrot
Hardest action (that is relative to the core game) to do in sports.
My eyesight went to below average, and that's all she wrote for my baseball career. No Lasik back then.
I so badly want to get Apa and DAF in a 100mph cage.
We'll start off by seeing if they can even catch a 100mph fast. And unlike this guy, I ain't giving them catcher's gear.
Sadly, I'll be posting on ST about the deaths of our fine friend Apa the Pokemaster and DAF
"Let's get you on the pitch. Bet you'll have a heart attack!"
I run 10K twice a week. Let's go.
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