Reply With Quote
Indeed. 2 HOF players at that. Same franchise:
This. That's why they HATE Olympic talk
Indeed. 2 HOF players at that. Same franchise:
Why does an illegal immigrant from Mexico care so much about Team USA's accomplishments?
Just think, in a few weeks, even Harrison Barnes will have a Gold Medal.
None of that was what you said in the post I responded to.
Also, key word being "second" in your response.
Laker fans acting like butler never existed and throwing under the bus again.
It's like saying Duncan won a championship with bateer, gold wore, Devon brown, Steve smith and robinsoft.
No, just tired of people grasping at straws. You can eat that horse now, that mother er was dead 5 years ago...kinda like the Lakers franchise. Talk whatever makes you feel better, still doesn't make your squad any sort of relevant now or in the next 5 years.This. That's why they HATE Olympic talk
Or hop into a Dorlean and drive 88 mph...straight into a wall...like Kobe did with your franchise... #2simple
Sad laker fans as always.
Always have some to say but doesn't make sense.
Butler was a good player. But nothing special. loved Tuff juice's defense and demeanor. But if he was special he wouldnt have been traded so many times and sometimes for mediocre returns. he did get us Kwame which helped get us Pau though ...
Spur fan is full of here.
Obviously Laker fan is trolling ... but saying the Olympics means nothing is just as big a reach as saying because of the Olympics means Kobe is automatically greater than Duncan.
International play is why Manu has a shot at the HOF.
The Dream team is was one of the most iconic teams in basketball history.
The travesty of the 72 Olympic basketball squad gold medal game still gets mentions over 40 plus years later and those players still refuse the silver medal
As a youngster I remember seeing young Jordan and Ewing (not even pros yet) lead the US to Gold in 1984 and it's when I first said holy what a colossal mistake the Blazers made he was the best college player/rookie I had ever seen. (I did not see Magic/kareem in college) and I did not truly start watching NCAA until 1985
and I watched David lose to Russia and Duncan lose to a team from a US territory led by Carlos freaking Arroyo. CARLOS ARROYO!!!
Those all happened. We can make excuses for it just like Laker fans can make excuses for Kobe missing the playoffs year one post Shaq ...
Also true that Kobe was the leader of the Redeem team even if Lebron (or Arguably wade) was the best player that summer.
Excuses as they say are like assholes. Full of .
duncan's failure happened as did David's before him. They were the best players on their Olympic squads so they get the brunt of the blame ...
so does Kobe, missing the playoffs in his prime one year ...
Both sides (Laker/spur fans) just admit the and move on.
Both have a "pox" on a otherwise stellar HOF resume.
happens ... not even Jordan is perfect.
Last edited by Killakobe81; 07-28-2016 at 09:01 AM.
In David's defense ...look at that roster.
a lot of good college players, truly really good defenders but that is some horrid shooting. Even thunder Dan Majerle lacked the range he gained in the pros.
what a -fest. A bunch of high level college players I remember even watching Jeff Grayer light it up in college.
But so few HOF caliber players. Mitch richmond was the second best player along with Danny Manning.
, Willie Anderson actually represented the US in 88.
Not impressed? Also to be fair these were great college guys they are just utter in hindsight and because of the lack of pure shooters to protect David inside ...
Bimbo coles
JR Reid
Stacey "plastic man" Augmon
Charles soft layup smith
Charles Gtown Hoya Smith
Great job, Team USA!!
a lame excuse.Just think, in a few weeks, even Harrison Barnes will have a Gold Medal.
David's sure translated in 1992, so did Ewing.
Neither was as good on the block as Duncan.
Those guys were better shooters? Maybe.
But back then Timmy had that automatic 15 foot angle bank shot ... could have murdered them on that play all day.
He failed. it happens. No player is perfect.
Tough Juice had an Al Jefferson type impact on those teams. Empty stats at best. -5 points son.
Indeed. He quit though. Inexcusable in my book.
Quit crying. Act like somebody son.No, just tired of people grasping at straws. You can eat that horse now, that mother er was dead 5 years ago...kinda like the Lakers franchise. Talk whatever makes you feel better, still doesn't make your squad any sort of relevant now or in the next 5 years.
Or hop into a Dorlean and drive 88 mph...straight into a wall...like Kobe did with your franchise... #2simple
Horry was on the right team at the right time. That's it and that's all.
Quit crying. Act like somebody son.
This.Quit crying. Act like somebody son.
What does the Lakers sucking have to do with a Bronze medal?
Deflection.
saying caron butler is a fkn scrub, lol he was fine at miami heat b4 he was traded
Just think, Flavio: even Tim's bronze medal is better than anything Team Mexico has done in recent memory. That's why you have to bandwagon the U.S. in basketball, just like you did in life.Just think, in a few weeks, even Harrison Barnes will have a Gold Medal.
Not saying Butler is some all world player who makes anybody top 50 all time, but he is a solid 2nd/3rd option on any playoff team, the same with Odom. Butler was highly productive in LA, and even more so with the Wiz. Him, with Gilbert Arenas and Antawn Jamison actually made the playoffs the following number of years. Sure it was the East, but we are talking about Kobe + Odom vs. Arenas + Jamison here. A guy who puts up 16/6/2 is a solid 2nd/3rd wheel on any team, and it's not like he did it because he was on a crappy team or something, he did even better with the Wiz who made the playoffs as a 2nd/3rd wheel role.
Odom, while not playing his best year, was productive as well. His advanced stats weren't great, but they were positive, and he did put up 15/10/4. Lebron James took players like Boobie Gibson and Mo Williams to the finals, and you are telling me Kobe can't even take a better cast to the playoffs? MVPau took a similar cast to the playoffs in the same year in the same conference, while the Lakers finished 11th, and 11 games behind the Grizzlies.
I semi agree, Olympics certainly meant something, and 04 was certainly a huge stain on Duncan's basketball legacy. But there are a few things though:
1) The 04 team was horribly constructed, there was no outside shooting to speak of, there were no real point guards, and the only guy who can create for others didn't really play (Lebron). It would be a great And1 tour team though, but on a basketball court? That team will lose to most NBA playoff teams in a series, especially given the cir stances (see 2)
2) Guards were having a field day on that team because the perimeter defense was horrible. The approach has always been "we are so much more talented than you so I will just outscore you". Didn't work at all. It was essentially AI and Starbury dribbling the air out of the ball and going 1 on 1 every freaking possession. Just horrible basketball overall
3) Duncan actually did well in the tournament, especially considering that he was surrounded by defense and hacked all day. As a C, you need guards to feed you the ball. Iverson and Starbury don't feed nobody the ball.
4) The Puerto Rico game was the first game they played. Practices and together times were minimal, there were no plays.
5) the 2004 Argentina would have won a game, or at least made it very close, with the 2000 and 2008 US teams. Classic case of sum > parts, and basically the polar opposite of the US teams from a team approach
As for the 88 team, they were boys amongst men. Robinson actually did pretty good in that tournament.
Over the course of the tournament, people make it sound like the US didn't make the tourny, or didnt' even get to the medal rounds. They did based on pure talent, but once they get to face up against similarly talented teams, their lack of team play and glaring weaknesses in team construction led to those failures. Much like how talented individuals will pretty much always make the playoffs in the NBA, but it takes team play to advance in the playoffs.
Comparing not winning the gold to not making the playoffs is laughable. You have one team winning the gold, you have 16 out of 30 teams making the playoffs.
And no, Kobe wasn't the leader on the 08 team. Lebron was.
Kobe pretty much personifies empty stats. Butler was a positive, both traditional and advanced stats wise.
Another Laker thrown under the bus by Laker fans. Keep acting like he didn't nail clutch shots after clutch shots for 3 different franchises.
Tough when you get swarmed every possession because it's perfectly legal to double a post player without the ball in FIBA ball. So you just gang around Duncan and let Marbury and Iverson shoot 35% from the field.
Why do people keep falling for these obvious troll threads?
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
