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    I've heard some people say that, given the advancements in technology and nutrition, Wilt Chamberlain would be little more than a Roy Hibbert in today's NBA.
    I don't go that far. I see Wilt likely making some all-star teams in today's game. I just think people are romanticizing the past when they even include him in GOAT talk.

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    at least spell the name right tbh
    He was too busy going full re , tbh

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    Dwight would've pulled off 30 and 20 vs the midgets too.
    there were only 8 teams in the league and they all had bigs like Russell, Bellamy, Lucas, Alcindor, Unseld, etc. There were less talented players in the pool but only 1/4 of the teams relative to the waterdown bull we see today.

    Howard gets to play against Olanyk, Pachulia, Vucevic, Mozgov and Plumlee and he cannot manage that. Wishcasting is fun I guess.

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    there were only 8 teams in the league and they all had bigs like Russell, Bellamy, Lucas, Alcindor, Unseld, etc.
    Russell is the best of that group on D, and he's like 6'9 and not supremely athletic. That should tell you something.

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    They had 5 at least in part because Wilt, West, and Baylor choked their vagis off. And I see people putting all three of those guys in their top tens all the time.
    Wilt played against them only one year with the Lakers and the series went 7 games again. He averaged 25 rpg that series and shot 50% from the field. They ran their offense through West and Baylor. Baylor in particular was ty that series. Nice revisionist history though.

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    Russell is the best of that group on D, and he's like 6'9 and not supremely athletic. That should tell you something.
    Just when you think the Sputacular account cannot say anything more stupid he goes and tops it once again.

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    Just when you think the Sputacular account cannot say anything more stupid he goes and tops it once again.
    You can hate on the truth all you want, FuzzyVagkins.

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    Jordan destroys all of them tbh

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    You can hate on the truth all you want, FuzzyVagkins.
    And merit is abandoned. Your surrender is noted.

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    at least spell the name right tbh
    Well you got me I reckon. I committed a typo. OP must have committed about 500 of them to come up with what he did.

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    More stupidity. Wilt was 3 inches taller, stronger, more athletic, and better skilled. Wilt could turn over either shoulder from either block and could shoot out to 15 feet. Bible Kemp has no offenive game beyond trying to jump over people and brick shots.
    Not to mention that Wilt led the league in assists one year as well.

    I've heard some people say that, given the advancements in technology and nutrition, Wilt Chamberlain would be little more than a Roy Hibbert in today's NBA.
    Of course, if Wilt had access to the same he would have benefited as well.

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    People should start reading the biography of Bill Russel.....

    There is a passage there that goes something like this:

    According to Mr. Bill Russell, there are certain times (certain times ......) that he enters a "flow state"....

    When he is in this state, TIME SLOWS DOWN....

    HE CAN ANTICIPATES MOVES OF BOTH TEAMS, AND EVEN INDIVIDUAL PLAYERS

    AND HE DOES NOT CARE WHO WINS, AS LONG AS THE FLOW STATE IS PROLONGED.

    He says, however, that because of this "flow state" or "trance state" his team usually wins.

    What is this?

    This is, at least a trance state, or perhaps the only VALID MYSTICAL EXPERIENCE BY A BASKETBALL PLAYER IN THIS EARTH!

    ----------------------------------------------


    That is not something to belittle....

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    Did Bobby Fischer achieve this statte? I wonder, ....Possibly, but we shall never know.....

    Usain Bolt,...well he is fast....

    The marathon champions, probably..but I have not read any do ented evidence....

    Martial Arts, probably a lot of them......the Aikido Master, Sensei Ueshiba certainly....

    Probably the greatest swordmasters, too...

    Monks of the Shaolin Temple? Possibly

    BUT BILL RUSSELL IS THE ONLY BASKETBALL PLAYER EVER TO EXPERIENCE IT!!!

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    Russell is the best of that group on D, and he's like 6'9 and not supremely athletic. That should tell you something.
    Russell was unbelievably athletic. His jump was so quick a lot of his block shots he was able to tap straight up so he could grab the rebound.

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    Its not fair to compare players today with players from 30-50 years ago. Just like with everything else in life whether it be technology, fitness, health, ect -- the human evolves and improves in time.

    Of course no old head will admit that, they'll be in denial and they'll be biased to their generation. But it's no different in athletics or basketball. Players today are far better than players from the 60's, 70's and 80's. They are more skilled, more athletic, better prepared, better conditioned, they train year round with up to date technology and up to date training methods. Put Bill Russel in the NBA today and he's a 3rd or 4th big on an average team, put Paul Milsap or David Lee in the NBA in the 60's and they'd probably be compared to the goat of PFs, Tim Duncan.

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    Bring back Fischer, and he could compete with Carlsen for the World Chess le..............

    Meanwhile, in the domain or field called Mysticism, no human in the past, or the present seems to be able to match the record of Lord Plotinus of Alexandria! on record, seven-time satori achiever....

    is it possible that in the domain of Mysticism, the human HAS NEVER EVOLVED?

    A staggering thought......that means the Dark Polarity is actually winning......

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    In Love and Peace....the human DOES NOT seem to be evolving?????

    For the human DOES NOT SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE ALL BROTHERS AND SISTERS....my goodness....

    wars and battles all over the Earth, which is the same in my native Philippines, by the way.....

    The simplest thought: THAT WE ARE ALL BROTHERS AND SISTERS, CANNOT BE GRASPED?

    In view of this, technology does not impress me.....pity.

    We are riding like the wind into this horrible trap called TRANSHUMANISM.

    Where is the Love man?????

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    I've heard some people say that, given the advancements in technology and nutrition, Wilt Chamberlain would be little more than a Roy Hibbert in today's NBA.
    Whatever people you meet that make that claim are beyond stupid. Wilt was far, far superior to nearly every modern (last 6 years) center in conditioning, skill and strength. He would destroy a slow, plodding big man like Hibbert with his superior agility, athleticism and stamina.

    They say the man was "ahead of his time" for a reason. He was likely the most physically gifted big man in NBA history, period.

    The guy played entire game routinely in his career when the pace was much, much faster to today's game. And there were plenty of bruisers beating him up and trying to wear him down, nightly.
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    His floor would be Shaq in Orlando.

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    Put Bill Russel in the NBA today and he's a 3rd or 4th big on an average team,
    Wow. Just wow.

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    "According to Mr. Bill Russell, there are certain times (certain times ......) that he enters a "flow state"....When he is in this state, TIME SLOWS DOWN...."

    There is a term for this: "psychetachia" is a state that is induced in a person, usually by emergencies such that the person perceives things to move in slow motion, often enabling the subject to make physical moves in reaction to the situation. It's thought that the brain receives sudden powerful jolts of adrenaline in the amygdala section of the brain that enables this phenomenon. Some people have reported seeing the ripple of a bullet coming at them, much like the vision of the hero in the Matrix series. Ted Williams claimed he could read the printing on the baseball as it came into the plate at 90 mph.

    If you have ever experienced psychetachia, your memory of it and how you responded is something you cannot explain nor forget. Back in the day I raced sports cars at SCCA road tracks. I spun out a couple of times at speeds around 150 mph and it seemed to be in slow motion. I visually kept track of the car's spin and relationship to other cars and tried to manage the spin during those split seconds.

    What's amazing is that Russell experienced the phenomenon for extended periods. On the other hand, we all have seen athletes do certain things in various sports which seem to defy the physics of time and space..

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    You obviously don't know about Wilt.

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    I love the about Russell being 6'9" somehow means he wasn't a great bigman. Olajuwon was ing 6'10".

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    Its not fair to compare players today with players from 30-50 years ago. Just like with everything else in life whether it be technology, fitness, health, ect -- the human evolves and improves in time.

    Of course no old head will admit that, they'll be in denial and they'll be biased to their generation. But it's no different in athletics or basketball. Players today are far better than players from the 60's, 70's and 80's. They are more skilled, more athletic, better prepared, better conditioned, they train year round with up to date technology and up to date training methods. Put Bill Russel in the NBA today and he's a 3rd or 4th big on an average team, put Paul Milsap or David Lee in the NBA in the 60's and they'd probably be compared to the goat of PFs, Tim Duncan.
    Russell used to block shots to his teammates to run a fastbreak! Who does that today? Nobody because nobody would even consider that that was a possibility! Russell supposedly being inferior because of playing against inferior opponents shouldnt matter in this case because bigmen today or the near past play against equal talent so everything is equal....supposedly, but who has the foresight to block a shot and make sure the block starts a fastbreak? Russell was way more intense than any other player in NBA history. He used to vomit before every game out of nervousness. He was also an olympic high jumper

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    Its not fair to compare players today with players from 30-50 years ago. Just like with everything else in life whether it be technology, fitness, health, ect -- the human evolves and improves in time.

    Of course no old head will admit that, they'll be in denial and they'll be biased to their generation. But it's no different in athletics or basketball. Players today are far better than players from the 60's, 70's and 80's. They are more skilled, more athletic, better prepared, better conditioned, they train year round with up to date technology and up to date training methods. Put Bill Russel in the NBA today and he's a 3rd or 4th big on an average team, put Paul Milsap or David Lee in the NBA in the 60's and they'd probably be compared to the goat of PFs, Tim Duncan.
    Russell used to block shots to his teammates to run a fastbreak! Who does that today? Nobody because nobody would even consider that that was a possibility! Russell supposedly being inferior because of playing against inferior opponents shouldnt matter in this case because bigmen today or the near past play against equal talent so everything is equal, but who has the foresight to block a shot and make sure the block starts a fastbreak? Another point, in 13 seasons Russell won 11 championships but he also won 2 college championships.

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