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    Kawhi is a better defender than Harden, yes..Not a better player overall.
    holy

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    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    As a role player, he is great. He has missed 28 games the last 2 years (compared to Harden missing 1) playing much less minutes than Harden. Could he handle Harden's workload? Playing 3000 minutes for almost 4 years now?

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    You can laugh at it.
    Don't worry...it's not just me. We all are laughing at it.

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    Kawhi is a very young man still. Stop it with the "can he handle the workload". You're acting like he's Duncan's age...

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    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    No GM in the league would trade Leonard for ing Harden


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    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    Kawhi is a very young man still. Stop it with the "can he handle the workload". You're acting like he's Duncan's age...
    No, the point is he has played significantly less minutes and has already missed quite a few games. Increase those minutes from 2000 to 3000, does he miss more games? During those 3000 minutes, make Kawhi the primary ball handler and facilitator, with no other player who can get their own shot. Can his body handle it?

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    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    No GM in the league would trade Leonard for ing Harden

    No GM in the league would trade Harden for Kawhi if he didn't come with Pop.

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    No GM in the league would trade Harden for Kawhi if he didn't come with Pop.


    Sorry for the small text. It says, "Would you magically swap Harden with Kawhi if given the opportunity?"

    Yes- 194
    No- 153

    That is a clutchfans poll. Your own fanbase would do the trade. I guarantee you that if the thread/poll was created again today...the "Yes" numbers would be extremely higher.

    You make that poll here at Spurstalk....You might find 5 Spurs fans who would do the trade. And they're the same 5 guys who talk about Kawhi every time his name is mentioned.

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    Sorry for the small text. It says, "Would you magically swap Harden with Kawhi if given the opportunity?"

    Yes- 194
    No- 153

    That is a clutchfans poll. Your own fanbase would do the trade. I guarantee you that if the thread/poll was created again today...the "Yes" numbers would be extremely higher.

    You make that poll here at Spurstalk....You might find 5 Spurs fans who would do the trade. And they're the same 5 guys who talk about Kawhi every time his name is mentioned.
    I said no GM. General Manager, not fans. Btw, quoting clutchfans, you lose credibility. Who on earth quotes clutchfans?

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    On four consecutive possessions during the fourth quarter of the Spurs’ pivotal Game 5 game against the Thunder, MVP runner-up Kawhi Leonard did not touch the ball.

    Starting at the four-minute mark of the final quarter, Leonard was absent from the offense, not taking a shot until a desperation 3 with two seconds remaining. At that point the game was already gone.


    That CANNOT happen.


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    On four consecutive possessions during the fourth quarter of the Spurs’ pivotal Game 5 game against the Thunder, MVP runner-up Kawhi Leonard did not touch the ball.

    Starting at the four-minute mark of the final quarter, Leonard was absent from the offense, not taking a shot until a desperation 3 with two seconds remaining. At that point the game was already gone.


    That CANNOT happen.

    Kawhi Leonard led the Spurs in scoring the final three games of the series after scoring nine points in each of the first two games. - Leonard also led the Spurs in 3-point shooting this Finals, shooting 57.9 percent. Leonard was a team-best 10-of-18 (55.6 percent) on catch-and-shoot 3-point attempts.- Leonard shot 65.0 percent (13-of-20) when guarded by LeBron James in the series.

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    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    Kawhi Leonard led the Spurs in scoring the final three games of the series after scoring nine points in each of the first two games. - Leonard also led the Spurs in 3-point shooting this Finals, shooting 57.9 percent. Leonard was a team-best 10-of-18 (55.6 percent) on catch-and-shoot 3-point attempts.- Leonard shot 65.0 percent (13-of-20) when guarded by LeBron James in the series.
    That was years ago when his role wasn't as big as it is now. With a bigger role, he willingly gave up the ball to Parker against OKC. An MVP candidate gave up the ball in the playoffs.

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    I said no GM. General Manager, not fans. Btw, quoting clutchfans, you lose credibility. Who on earth quotes clutchfans?
    I don't know any GMs personally. Do you? Therefore (even though I still agree with baseline bum) I can't say for certain that they would/would not do the trade, and neither can you.

    Is Spurstalk a more credible opinion to you? Just say the word and I'll go upstairs right now and create the poll....

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    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    I don't know any GMs personally. Do you? Therefore (even though I still agree with baseline bum) I can't say for certain that they would/would not do the trade, and neither can you.

    Is Spurstalk a more credible opinion to you? Just say the word and I'll go upstairs right now and create the poll....
    I wouldn't quote any message board, clutchfans being the one i put the emphasis on never ever quoting. ing Nazis over there.

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    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    If you took every bad thing Spurstalk says about Kobe and distilled it into a single player, that player would be James Harden.

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    Kawhi is a great defender. But he's not the superior player, he's never played a full season and never had to carry the load Harden had to here in Houston (This is noticeable in minutes played for Kawhi v Harden) . Play Kawhi nearly 3000 minutes for Houston the past few seasons, his body is probably broken down already. Kawhi can't facilitate the ball like James. Kawhi plays in a system that allows him to get his points easily. James has to be the PG, facilitate the ball, and create points for himself because no one else can, then has had NO shooters. On the other hand, Pop created Kawhi, and he has to force him to want the ball, especially in the 4th quarter. And he still didn't want it.
    HarDone got outplayed by Klay when Curry was out.

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    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    If you took every bad thing Spurstalk says about Kobe and distilled it into a single player, that player would be James Harden.
    Bringing up Kobe again huh? You aren't getting around your MVP deferring to Parker down the stretch.

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    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    HarDone got outplayed by Klay when Curry was out.
    Kawhi got outplayed by Andre Roberson down the stretch...

  20. #45
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    Kawhi got outplayed by Andre Roberson down the stretch...
    You mean for a quarter in a 6 game series....

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    On four consecutive possessions during the fourth quarter of the Spurs’ pivotal Game 5 game against the Thunder, MVP runner-up Kawhi Leonard did not touch the ball.

    Starting at the four-minute mark of the final quarter, Leonard was absent from the offense, not taking a shot until a desperation 3 with two seconds remaining. At that point the game was already gone.


    That CANNOT happen.

    An unbiased news source:
    Tony Parker has to realize the Spurs aren't his team anymore

    The Spurs went time and time again to Parker, who no longer demands a double team. The Thunder went with a set man-on-man, and twice Parker settled for long contested jumpers, and twice missed.

    Here’s the way to look at it: That Parker long 2 is the shot the Thunder wanted the Spurs to take. If you gave them a list of all possible outcomes of each possession in crunch time, and told them they could pick what happened, the “contested long Tony Parker 2” would probably be right there at the very top of the list, just losing out to “Danny Green shoots from half-court sitting down backwards” and “Boris Diaw tries to kick the ball in like a soccer ball.”

    For the Spurs, who have made an art form of moving the ball until the perfect shot was there, settling for what the Thunder would want is inexcusable. Parker has had an incredible career, but it’s time for him to take a step back and allow Leonard to run the offense in crunch time.

    This is Leonard’s and Aldridge’s team now. Parker has to let them win games.


    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/05/tony...a-city-thunder

  22. #47
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    Bull . Leonard has got to assert himself. If he doesn't, the with Parker will repeat itself. Don't blame Parker for Leonard being passive.

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    Bringing up Kobe again huh? You aren't getting around your MVP deferring to Parker down the stretch.
    ROFL at a Harden fan talking about postseason performance

  24. #49
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    If you took every bad thing Spurstalk says about Kobe and distilled it into a single player, that player would be James Harden.

    Because Kobe passed that much ever

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    ROFL at a Harden fan talking about postseason performance
    Not wanting the ball is ing shameful, period. No matter what fan, fanbase, etc.

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