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    Earthing shaking news broken. Will share with all friends and every random person I encounter.

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    Of course he is. If he didn't care about this he'd have been a Spur 2 years ago.

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    Then I am not impressed with a Demon-Lee frontline off the bench unless they stagger minutes between the starting bigs and Bench.

    Lee can't shoot outside the paint and is pretty much a roll man, like Dedmon. Would rather it be Mills-Manu-Simmons/Bertans-Anderson and Dedmon, I think it will eventually look that way towards the end of the season.

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    Then I am not impressed with a Demon-Lee frontline off the bench unless they stagger minutes between the starting bigs and Bench.

    Lee can't shoot outside the paint and is pretty much a roll man, like Dedmon. Would rather it be Mills-Manu-Simmons/Bertans-Anderson and Dedmon, I think it will eventually look that way towards the end of the season.
    Are you seeing Simmons and Bertans at the 3 and KA at the 4?

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    Then I am not impressed with a Demon-Lee frontline off the bench unless they stagger minutes between the starting bigs and Bench.

    Lee can't shoot outside the paint and is pretty much a roll man, like Dedmon. Would rather it be Mills-Manu-Simmons/Bertans-Anderson and Dedmon, I think it will eventually look that way towards the end of the season.
    I think Kyle will get a lot of minutes at the 4, especially if he has improved his 3 pt shot. Would give much better balance than Dedmon-Lee, which would be terrible. I've no idea what was the purpose of the Lee signing, but really hope Pop wouldn't overplay him simply because he's a vet.

    Also, Bertans is a 4, always has been. He won't be able to play the 3 even against bench wings.

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    Are you seeing Simmons and Bertans at the 3 and KA at the 4?
    Yeah, I think Anderson is closer to a 4 than 3. I think Bertans is closer to a 3 than a 4 and Simmons is a swing man but probably more of 2 guard. Assuming Anderson and Simmons improve as shooters (they were low volume 3pt shooters last season) it makes sense to go "small in the second unit with Dedmon as the anchor.

    Mills,Manu, Bertans, Anderson and Dedmon gives the Spurs size/length and shooting on the perimeter with DD serving as the roll man. It would be somewhat reminiscent of the 13-14 bench.

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    I think Kyle will get a lot of minutes at the 4, especially if he has improved his 3 pt shot. Would give much better balance than Dedmon-Lee, which would be terrible. I've no idea what was the purpose of the Lee signing, but really hope Pop wouldn't overplay him simply because he's a vet.

    Also, Bertans is a 4, always has been. He won't be able to play the 3 even against bench wings.
    Based on what I've seen, he's a tall 3 and a thin 4. Maybe you're right, its not like I've watched him extensively during his international career though. I'd be concerned about the rebounding and I think teams would possibly go small and put another wing instead of playing big which negates some of his stretch four potential because he would essentially still be guarding and playing on the wing.

    I hope Lee is a 1th man than will fall out of the rotation near the end of the regular season, maybe the Spurs don't think Anderson is ready just yet to play the 4. But I expect him to be the 4 towards the end of the season.

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    Based on what I've seen, he's a tall 3 and a thin 4. Maybe you're right, its not like I've watched him extensively during his international career though. I'd be concerned about the rebounding and I think teams would possibly go small and put another wing instead of playing big which negates some of his stretch four potential because he would essentially still be guarding and playing on the wing.
    Exactly what I'd expect, he'd have to shoot lights out to find a niche for himself. Teams could and should put a wing on him to force Pop to play him at the 3.

    I hope Lee is a 1th man than will fall out of the rotation near the end of the regular season, maybe the Spurs don't think Anderson is ready just yet to play the 4. But I expect him to be the 4 towards the end of the season.
    I hope Lee was brought as a 5, not a 4. Compete with Dedmon for the backup 5 spot. I can't see him as a 4 next to any other Spurs big, bar possibly Gasol.

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    Then we have Kyle and Bertans as our backup pf? yuk!

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    Exactly what I'd expect, he'd have to shoot lights out to find a niche for himself. Teams could and should put a wing on him to force Pop to play him at the 3.
    I don't think that forces Pop to do anything. If the Spurs run Mills, Manu, Bertans, Anderson and Dedmon, I don't think the positional distinction between Davis and Kyle matters at all. Even in Kyle's absence, if the team runs something like Mills, Manu, Simmons, Bertans, Lee., I'm pretty sure that Pop doesn't care if the opponent plays small or stays big. If anything, playing small to guard Bertans leaves a lot of paint open for a Manu/Dedmon PnRs or Simmons penetrations.

    I hope Lee was brought as a 5, not a 4. Compete with Dedmon for the backup 5 spot. I can't see him as a 4 next to any other Spurs big, bar possibly Gasol.
    I think he was brought in to be an offensive option at the five and to cover for injuries and/or Dedmon failing in a bigger role. I definitely think that he will get PF minutes, though. Pop will probably start the year experimenting with Lee in PnPs.

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    Anyone that says he can't guard the 3 hasn't watched him Europe.Decent and can improve.

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    Anyone that says he can't guard the 3 hasn't watched him Europe.Decent and can improve.
    I have heard that he is a decent defender, specifically from Draft Express.

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    Then we have Kyle and Bertans as our backup pf? yuk!
    I'd rather have Anderson as the backup 4 over Lee, he is continuing to improve and is already an above average mid range shooter and can play/ defend out on the perimeter. If he can hit corner 3's he would be a solid backup 4; it would allow the Spurs to have four shooters with Dedmon as the roll man,

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    Exactly what I'd expect, he'd have to shoot lights out to find a niche for himself. Teams could and should put a wing on him to force Pop to play him at the 3.



    I hope Lee was brought as a 5, not a 4. Compete with Dedmon for the backup 5 spot. I can't see him as a 4 next to any other Spurs big, bar possibly Gasol.
    I don't like the idea of Lee as a 5 but considering that he really doesn't shoot well outside of the paint I guess it makes it more sense. I was under the impression that Lee was promised a role in the rotation, at least for most of the season before Pop trims the rotation down.

    I read an article (think from PTR) about how Bertans should be used. They mentioned that instead of being a spot up shooter like Bonner, he would be much more effective moving like Beli. If he is used like Beli, I really like how he would fit into a Mills-Manu-KA-DD second unit.

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    Gasol is still a decent rim protector, it's just when he gets dragged away from it is when there's trouble.
    Thanks for beating the horse on the subject.

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    Pretty big NBA fan here and I had never even heard of Dedmon. Can't believe people actually thought he would start over MVPau bc some guy that I had also never heard of said so.

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    Operation Best Gasol starts here

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    Operation Best Gasol starts here
    Does this mean we can refer to Pau as the OBG from here on out?

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    Does this mean we can refer to Pau as the OBG from here on out?

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    I'm interested in who is going to back up Kawhi as much as anything. If Bertans and Anderson are both PF's then one or both if Lee plays will be on the third string. If Bertans or Anderson can play the 3 things look more clear. If our second string is Mills- Manu- Simmons- Lee/Anderson/Bertans- Dedmon I'm thinking Anderson has the leg up.

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    Based on what I've seen, he's a tall 3 and a thin 4. Maybe you're right, its not like I've watched him extensively during his international career though. I'd be concerned about the rebounding and I think teams would possibly go small and put another wing instead of playing big which negates some of his stretch four potential because he would essentially still be guarding and playing on the wing.

    I hope Lee is a 1th man than will fall out of the rotation near the end of the regular season, maybe the Spurs don't think Anderson is ready just yet to play the 4. But I expect him to be the 4 towards the end of the season.
    This is what I'm wondering. It'll be interesting to see how Pop figures it out. Although nothing will be written in stone and Pop will be juggling the rotations quite a bit, I can see the line-up you mentioned working with Bertans and KA out there together and Lee the 11th man.

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    Gasol has a huge ego, tbh..he probably wouldn't even be with the Spurs if Tim hadn't retired..it would be shocking if he doesn't start IMO..

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    Gasol has a huge ego, tbh..he probably wouldn't even be with the Spurs if Tim hadn't retired..it would be shocking if he doesn't start IMO..
    So long as he doesn't expect to start against GSW in the RS and PS, it's fine. If Duncan can take a seat against the Dubs then so can he.

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    So long as he doesn't expect to start against GSW in the RS and PS, it's fine. If Duncan can take a seat against the Dubs then so can he.
    Duncan didn't have an ounce of an offensive game last year. There was no point in putting him out there against midgetball. TBH

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    So long as he doesn't expect to start against GSW in the RS and PS, it's fine. If Duncan can take a seat against the Dubs then so can he.
    He won't get benched vs. GS early on, tbh..maybe if he struggles he'll get benched in the subsequent games, but I don't see why he would in the earlier matchups..

    Warriors are going to be even weaker inside, this season..Spurs don't have the personnel to run with them, they will have to pound them inside IMO..Gasol/Aldridge should be a better matchup than Duncan/Aldridge, on paper(Gasol's post game was pretty weak, last season, though)..

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