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    foreigners in general shouldn't be allowed in here.

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    Our country is so huge that assimilation is pretty much inevitable, unless you completely cloister yourself like the Amish.

    My chief concern is that we are turning our backs on 4,000,000+ desperate people who need help.

    As noted in the videos in the OP, these are largely women and children.

    As for skillsets, the professional class was among the first to leave. Doctors, lawyers, investment types, etc. There is no shortage of that that we should welcome, although I wouldn't want to limit it to just those lucky enough to have gotten an education in a system like Syria that openly favored some groups over others for religious/ethnic reasons.
    I don't want to see Muslim ghettos popping up, which is inevitable if you're going to take in uneducated people who are going to cling to their backwards religion and not have any reasonable chance to be successful in this country with how bad its job market is for unskilled labor.

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    that's among the stupidest arguments in existence, tbh... so tell me, friend, how many years was the United States of America in existence when the nomadic N.A.'s ruled these lands?

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    I don't want to see Muslim ghettos popping up, which is inevitable if you're going to take in uneducated people who are going to cling to their backwards religion and not have any reasonable chance to be successful in this country with how bad its job market is for unskilled labor.
    Too late. Go to Dearborn, MI around one of the Eid's.

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    I don't want to see Muslim ghettos popping up, which is inevitable if you're going to take in uneducated people who are going to cling to their backwards religion and not have any reasonable chance to be successful in this country with how bad its job market is for unskilled labor.
    We don't just bring them in and drop them off in the middle of a city to fend for themselves.

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    We don't just bring them in and drop them off in the middle of a city to fend for themselves.
    We're not going to drop into middle class jobs and nice homes either.

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    If the concern is the radicalization of Muslims in the US, do you think that is LESS likely to happen if we have a policy of not accepting Muslim refugees? I don't.

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    We're not going to drop into middle class jobs and nice homes either.
    We've never done that with any resettlement program that I'm aware of, and so far it's worked fine. We're also not dropping them all off in the same places.

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    LOL, Gutless LOLiber s trying to pass the Syria mess off on Dubya, when Obama surpassed Bush's villany in the mid-East about 2 years ago.

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    LOL, Gutless LOLiber s trying to pass the Syria mess off on Dubya, when Obama surpassed Bush's villany in the mid-East about 2 years ago.
    LOL re rightwingers trying to push a revisionist history where Bush somehow isn't responsible for taking out the guy who crushed all that Islamic in Iraq and then letting the country fall into a civil war.

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    It'll be tragic and unsatisfying, but I'm looking forward to scoreboarding some of you libs on the refugee situation a couple years down the road.

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    District 9 imo

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    LOL re rightwingers trying to push a revisionist history where Bush somehow isn't responsible for taking out the guy who crushed all that Islamic in Iraq and then letting the country fall into a civil war.
    LOL, I didn't say that, but way to dodge the issue. Your Leftist Marxist suckery can't change the fact your President is the same as Dubya. Y'all are the exact same thing y'all claim to hate, but nutless to not admit it.

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    LOL, I didn't say that, but way to dodge the issue. Your Leftist Marxist suckery can't change the fact your President is the same as Dubya. Y'all are the exact same thing y'all claim to hate, but nutless to not admit it.
    LOL you did say that when you tried to excuse Bush for this ing mess. You can fairly blame Obama for lots of but taking out Saddam thus leaving a power vacuum for ISIS isn't one of them. Bush's boy Rumsfeld created that power vacuum when they had no plan to stop Iraq from going into civil war after taking Hussein out. LOL revisionist history on Iraq.

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    LOL you did say that when you tried to excuse Bush for this ing mess. You can fairly blame Obama for lots of but taking out Saddam thus leaving a power vacuum for ISIS isn't one of them. Bush's boy Rumsfeld created that power vacuum when they had no plan to stop Iraq from going into civil war after taking Hussein out. LOL revisionist history on Iraq.
    Who was the one who pulled out of Iraq? That's what left the vacuum. Sure Bush had the plan for it, but that doesn't mean he would have been dumb enough to do it when Iraq wasn't ready.

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    Who was the one who pulled out of Iraq? That's what left the vacuum. Sure Bush had the plan for it, but that doesn't mean he would have been dumb enough to do it when Iraq wasn't ready.
    Bush's plan was going there with a small force and thinking they'd be greeted as liberators. Instead it became a terrorist hotbed once he took out Saddam. It was already a lost war, no sense in wasting more American lives there after Bush didn't do to stabilize the country he destroyed.

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    It'll be tragic and unsatisfying, but I'm looking forward to scoreboarding some of you libs on the refugee situation a couple years down the road.
    I'm sure you will, but you could at least define the parameters of what cons utes victory for your side of the argument.

    For example I know the first time one of the 110,000 refugees gets a DUI, Breitbart and Drudge are going to run a week's worth of front page stories on it with pom-poms waving, so let us know specifically what you think will happen and to what degree, and we can all agree on who gets to celebrate when.

    In case it's a helpful guide, note that 1 in 12 Americans currently has a felony conviction so ting our pants when the first of 110,000 commits a felony might be a little silly.

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    I would eat them.

    Of course, if one does the math, as noted elsewhere, it is like three in an amount of skittles large enough to fill 1.5 Olympic swimming pools.

    That doesn't take much bravery, which is kinda the point, isn't it.

    Why aren't you calling out these people as cowards? I am going to find out if any Democrats have been harping on this and doing so.

    I might even go so far as to find out if I can help sponsor any. Seems like the decent thing to do, after hopefully shaming others into acting.
    What bravery is there in "maybe" sponsoring one after shaming others to do it first? And what sort of "maybe" sponsor are you even talking about? If you are just talking about donating money that is cowardly chicken . Open your doors to your home and take a family in if you want to be "brave".

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    I'm no expert but I was listening to an expert on the situation and what he said is there are NO Syrian refugees. A refugee is someone with nowhere to go. Syria is surrounded by Muslim nations!

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    I don't want us accepting a ton of Syrian refugees. I mean it sucks what they're going through and it is absolutely our fault because of Bush's war, but I don't want us just accepting desperate people. Anyone given legal status to be in the US should want to integrate into our society and culture. I think we should also only accept people with skillsets that would allow them good jobs to raise their kids in good homes. The last thing we need is to bring people from Syria into poverty here and then their kids become disillusioned with the United States and become great targets for Islamic terrorists to recruit for lone wolf attacks through social media. I know it sounds heartless and it probably is, but I don't want to keep getting ed by Bush 7.5 years after he left office and beyond.
    The bottom line for me is what is the "potential" for integration for these refugees? If the ones they've accepted/are accepting have shed all their fundamentalist baggage or didn't have any to begin with, then I'm cool with it. But even then I worry because if the communities they're coming into don't want to welcome them, or refugees don't know how to deal with intolerance even on a small level from a few bad apples, then that's a problem.

    It's something that has to be done with extreme delicacy.

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    We've never done that with any resettlement program that I'm aware of, and so far it's worked fine. We're also not dropping them all off in the same places.
    Yea, but show me any other group misunderstood and/or feared to the extent that Muslims are & that have the religious tradition that Muslims do. It's a (potentially dangerously) unique group of refugees in that respect.

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    Yea, but show me any other group misunderstood and/or feared to the extent that Muslims are & that have the religious tradition that Muslims do. It's a (potentially dangerously) unique group of refugees in that respect.
    How much more dangerous, on average, do you think Syrian refugees are as compared to current US citizens who already live here? (1 in 12 US citizens has a felony charge).

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    Felony charges vary. Making multiple lil bombs that kill groups of people at single time including children...those are some dangerous skittles. Its not swallow one kill one its one kills like 20

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    Felony charges vary. Making multiple lil bombs that kill groups of people at single time including children...those are some dangerous skittles. Its not swallow one kill one its one kills like 20
    What % of the 110,000 refugees being let into this country do you think would potentially do that?

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    How much more dangerous, on average, do you think Syrian refugees are as compared to current US citizens who already live here? (1 in 12 US citizens has a felony charge).
    That's a loaded question. In the sense that I don't know how you measure "danger". Not all forms of danger are created equal. Plus, whether someone is a danger or not isn't dependent on whether they've been charged w/ anything. For example, people who are in the KKK are just as worrisome to me as the people who sympathize with & enable them.

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