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    Well this is the type of stuff that generates page views I guess...

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    The beautiful game died in 2014.

    The Spurs drafted iceberg head in 2014.

    You be the judge.

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    For what it's worth, he had them 12th last year...: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/th...ings-part-2-2/

    and 4th the year before, after the championship: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/th...nkings-part-2/
    He must not like Kawhi and the ISO/Post up game, despite giving him all the accolades. How can you equate him to someone transcendental like Pippen and say he's unwatchable... then praise J.Simms

    I think Lowe is down to new lows lol

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    The beautiful game died in 2014.

    The Spurs drafted iceberg head in 2014.

    You be the judge.

    He really only played last season. I actually thought last season the end of the bench was the most watchable it's been since I have been a fan. It's why J.Simms caught on, and it's how Boban got his following and anderson was the PG of that crew. I enjoyed watching that group quite a bit... in fact I miss Boban...

    Team took a tumble in watchability with Deadman though... big time. Hope to be wrong obviously lol

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    Maybe he's right.

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    As hard as it is to imagine, some of the games in the 2003 Finals are much worse, in my view. In 6 games, the Spurs never managed to score 20 points in any first quarter in that series and only ever got to 30 in a quarter 1 time -- the 4th quarter of Game 6, when they hit 31. In the 2nd quarter of Game 3 of that series, the teams combined for 27 points (SA 18, NJ 9), and the Spurs led at halftime by 3 -- 33-30.

    Some will say it was good defense, but watching those games now, it's really hard to watch.
    I remember Bill Walton saying there was an offensive explosion joking around because the Scores in that series were so low. Some of it was very painful to watch, especially if you are not a fan of the two teams. I remember the 33-30 game, my GOD that was an ugly first half.

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    It was the NBC broadcast that made it entertaining. NBC losing the TV right to Disney after the Lakers 3-peat was one of the reason early 2000s NBA took a nosedive as far as TV audience. I'm not surprised that watching 90s NBA in person was a ty experience.
    I was only 9 years old at the time, so it was still really exciting and the only reference point I had for live NBA ball, tbh..it's just dull when I watch it nowadays

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    As hard as it is to imagine, some of the games in the 2003 Finals are much worse, in my view. In 6 games, the Spurs never managed to score 20 points in any first quarter in that series and only ever got to 30 in a quarter 1 time -- the 4th quarter of Game 6, when they hit 31. In the 2nd quarter of Game 3 of that series, the teams combined for 27 points (SA 18, NJ 9), and the Spurs led at halftime by 3 -- 33-30.

    Some will say it was good defense, but watching those games now, it's really hard to watch.
    Yep..I loved watching those Spurs at the time, but there isn't much appeal for re-watching..

    Unfortunately, Tim's legacy with the mainstream media and casual fan has been negatively affected by those years, too..not because the Spurs were boring(90%+ of the teams in the NBA were boring during those seasons), but because it was a dark age for the league as a whole(reflected in the ratings)..many people did not experience Tim's peak and dominance and only remember him as a great player in a great system..

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    today's NBA

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    I've touched on this before, but Lowe has become extremely biased as he's gained more currency around the league. Whoever he's buddy buddy with, he props up; whoever is more guarded, he s on. What's worse, his word has become gospel for his disciples of snobby, stat geek wannabes, with their group think.

    Obviously, the Spurs aren't at their '12-'14 zenith, but 19th is still ridiculous.

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    I remember Bill Walton saying there was an offensive explosion joking around because the Scores in that series were so low. Some of it was very painful to watch, especially if you are not a fan of the two teams. I remember the 33-30 game, my GOD that was an ugly first half.
    LOL I remember watching a game in the 1986 Finals where the Rockets only had 38 at the half and thinking it was the worst basketball ever played.

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    I've touched on this before, but Lowe has become extremely biased as he's gained more currency around the league. Whoever he's buddy buddy with, he props up; whoever is more guarded, he s on. What's worse, his word has become gospel for his disciples of snobby, stat geek wannabes, with their group think.

    Obviously, the Spurs aren't at their '12-'14 zenith, but 19th is still ridiculous.
    I don't know about Lowe overall, and specially over time, but the few articles or analysis he's geeked out and that have been around here, seem very biased. Obviously, watchability is entirely subjective and personal.
    I enjoy watching Anderson for example... nothing more need be said.

    But to acknowledge Kawhi as a transcendental talent who is still 25 and not maxed up on his potential, then say he and his team are 19th in the league in watchability is hypocritical. It's basically him saying that he's not a fan.

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    I don't know about Lowe overall, and specially over time, but the few articles or analysis he's geeked out and that have been around here, seem very biased. Obviously, watchability is entirely subjective and personal.
    I enjoy watching Anderson for example... nothing more need be said.

    But to acknowledge Kawhi as a transcendental talent who is still 25 and not maxed up on his potential, then say he and his team are 19th in the league in watchability is hypocritical. It's basically him saying that he's not a fan.
    It is subjective and personal of course, but within' reason. To have the other 3 elite teams in the top 3 and the 4th 19th (as if they're the Pacers or Grizzlies) is ridiculous.

    I agree, it is hypocritical. So is his obsession with Marc and dislike for Pau, as if they're drastically different players.

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    The bench beyond Ginobili and the effervescent Patty Mills is a collection of unknowns and retreads
    I don't see how you can argue against that.

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    I've touched on this before, but Lowe has become extremely biased as he's gained more currency around the league. Whoever he's buddy buddy with, he props up; whoever is more guarded, he s on. What's worse, his word has become gospel for his disciples of snobby, stat geek wannabes, with their group think.

    Obviously, the Spurs aren't at their '12-'14 zenith, but 19th is still ridiculous.
    Zach Hoe was a niche journalist who used to shade light on underappreciated players & such but now he has become a mainstream journalist who makes outlandish claims such as the Rockets being the "Dark Horse" or Marc Gasol being a top 10 player using the same logic that made him a darling of the analytical community.

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    I don't see how you can argue against that.
    Still not a reason to bust them to 19th. the 8-12th men on a team are seldom the reason to turn up the watchability of any team. I doubt I can even name those guys for any other team that is not the Spurs in fact and they are not the reason I would watch any other team.

    (I suppose, unless you are a fan of a local player like the Argentineans who root for their local Garino, or unless it's a player that one linked since college, like me and Anderson, or unless it's Boban, and one never really knew if Boban was playing) Diaw is a huge loss in watchability IMO, but he seldom showed up for games actually. That is just an excuse by Lowe.

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    LOL trying to quantify subjectivity.

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    LOL trying to quantify subjectivity.
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    Well it's a popularity contest then. Are the Spurs almost within the last third in the league in terms of popularity?

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    Well it's a popularity contest then. Are the Spurs almost within the last third in the league in terms of popularity?
    no.

    he was just being subjective.

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    Well, I canceled my league pass for the first time in 5 years, so I guess I concur with Lowe.

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    What team has announcers that aren't homers? I believe the Spurs have some of the best announcers in the game, too. That's what makes the analysis extra stupid.

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    About right. As much as people claim they want old school centers and post up basketball, mostly everyone prefers watching run and gun.

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    with Boban we would rank Top 5 because he would have to play as the third big

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    If I weren't a fan, I sure wouldn't watch em.

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