Page 2 of 6 FirstFirst 123456 LastLast
Results 26 to 50 of 147
  1. #26
    Veteran sasaint's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Post Count
    14,298
    I mean I guess but other than stating people down what has he really done? Every one in the league knows the refs are gonna break that up immediately, always staring people down knowing nothing will probably happen isn't really tough, imo
    In the twilight of his career, DWest is a fake tough guy riding the reputation he earned in his prime as a real tough guy.

  2. #27
    Believe. KimmyGib's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    740
    Not even to mention his poor defense and inability to rebound, DWest's collection of horribly-timed and bone-headed offensive fouls may have cost the Spurs the OKC series.

  3. #28
    Hook 'em
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    1,304
    Of course you can't hate on David West..he's a Black man that sacrificed millions of $ for his white owner
    Cop killer advocate. Get this bas out of here. Not even a Spurs fan, just some attention seeking low life.

  4. #29
    Believe.
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Post Count
    226
    Like most of us, I was pleased when we signed West last year, but by the playoffs he was a sad paper tiger.

  5. #30
    Believe. Dancelot's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Post Count
    770
    Yeah I thought he was tough but I remember last season against Dallas and he got into it with can't remember some crazy foreign dude and he totally backed down from him. Which I guess is the smart thing do but you could tell he didn't want to dance with the dude.
    That was actually Zaza who he is now team mates with.

  6. #31
    Got Woke? DMC's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Post Count
    90,829
    I'd not call a dude that size with that strength "fake tough guy". Go toe to toe with him and if he backs down, we can revisit.

  7. #32
    you're a phony Holden_Caulfield's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Post Count
    6,508
    i hope he gets the most minutes off the bench

  8. #33
    Machacarredes Chinook's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Post Count
    32,115
    My issue with West isn't that he left. Well, I mean that is sort of annoying, but the bigger thing is that he had to char the bridge on the way out, like the team let him down rather than vice versa. I wonder if GS is looking at him to be a locker-room leader. For the Spurs, he had talked about the relief he felt at not being the only or main vet in the locker room, that he could just be one of the guys. But obviously that's not the case in Oakland. Also have to wonder how much he likes the Warriors' swagger. Culture-wise it seems like an awkward fit. Add in that he doesn't give what they need on the court, and it's even more awkward.

  9. #34
    2 Doors Down BillMc's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Post Count
    20,599
    My issue with West isn't that he left. Well, I mean that is sort of annoying, but the bigger thing is that he had to char the bridge on the way out, like the team let him down rather than vice versa. I wonder if GS is looking at him to be a locker-room leader. For the Spurs, he had talked about the relief he felt at not being the only or main vet in the locker room, that he could just be one of the guys. But obviously that's not the case in Oakland. Also have to wonder how much he likes the Warriors' swagger. Culture-wise it seems like an awkward fit. Add in that he doesn't give what they need on the court, and it's even more awkward.
    What exactly did he say to char the bridge? I've heard this let down rumor before but was anything ever said publicly?

  10. #35
    Machacarredes Chinook's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Post Count
    32,115
    What exactly did he say to char the bridge? I've heard this let down rumor before but was anything ever said publicly?
    Truth
    be told, the thing that miffed me was the reported comments that he felt disrespected. However, I also don't think anyone should be okay with him having his "bags packed" the same night they lost in the WCSF. Or him acting like it was a no-brainer to make the move.

  11. #36
    Millennial Messiah UNT Eagles 2016's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    16,847
    I was right all along about him... I take full credit for hating him since game 1 last year and a lot of STers need to eat crow, tbh.


    Another W for Millennial Messiah.

  12. #37
    Veteran rjv's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Post Count
    10,201
    i think by the end of the season, GS will have realized his signing was a bad move. and west will retire.

  13. #38
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Post Count
    8,041
    Truth
    be told, the thing that miffed me was the reported comments that he felt disrespected. However, I also don't think anyone should be okay with him having his "bags packed" the same night they lost in the WCSF. Or him acting like it was a no-brainer to make the move.
    Yeah its funny how he felt disrespected. Especially considering how Pop played him way more than he should have played.

    Fact is, Spurs front-court looked great on paper, but in reality it wasn't even close to great.

    By seasons end, Duncan was done, West was done, Boris was hurt and had regressed significantly from his 14' run -- he's close to done. Boban was the 2nd best big man on the team, but he never played when it mattered, so he was irrelevant and the Spurs losing him didn't change anything from a playoff rotation perspective.

    I was ecstatic to see West go to the Warriors. Having Zaza/ West replace Bogut/ Ezeli is a tremendous downgrade.

  14. #39
    Veteran spurs10's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Post Count
    10,797
    Truth
    be told, the thing that miffed me was the reported comments that he felt disrespected. However, I also don't think anyone should be okay with him having his "bags packed" the same night they lost in the WCSF. Or him acting like it was a no-brainer to make the move.
    Yes I seem to remember that. The talk about them calling him the day we lost was really bizarre and even seemed to be a bit shady. Best to him nonetheless.

  15. #40
    Veteran spurs10's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Post Count
    10,797
    Yeah its funny how he felt disrespected. Especially considering how Pop played him way more than he should have played.

    Fact is, Spurs front-court looked great on paper, but in reality it wasn't even close to great.

    By seasons end, Duncan was done, West was done, Boris was hurt and had regressed significantly from his 14' run -- he's close to done. Boban was the 2nd best big man on the team, but he never played when it mattered, so he was irrelevant and the Spurs losing him didn't change anything from a playoff rotation perspective.

    I was ecstatic to see West go to the Warriors. Having Zaza/ West replace Bogut/ Ezeli is a tremendous downgrade.

  16. #41
    Big in Japan GSH's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Post Count
    14,093
    Truth
    be told, the thing that miffed me was the reported comments that he felt disrespected. However, I also don't think anyone should be okay with him having his "bags packed" the same night they lost in the WCSF. Or him acting like it was a no-brainer to make the move.

    He said nothing but good things when last season was over. I think he believed the Spurs were going to offer him a lot more money for a second season (after opting out). When that didn't happen, his memory changed. It reminded me of the way Derek Anderson acted after the Spurs didn't make keeping him their top priority that offseason. You know... disrespected. He always played with a chip on his shoulder, which is fine. Off the court, it's not so good.

    Still say he should never have been forced into playing center. His whole career was at PF, and he's tall enough for that.

  17. #42
    Like I said... tmtcsc's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Post Count
    7,148
    KD is the fakest tough guy in the league. He replaced KG. ing Cupcake. I hope that fans who sit underneath the basket during games bring posters of Cupcakes to distract him during FT's. Probably won't work but the message will be delivered. Soft-ass, twig-arm flexing beta.

  18. #43
    Big in Japan GSH's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Post Count
    14,093
    I was ecstatic to see West go to the Warriors. Having Zaza/ West replace Bogut/ Ezeli is a tremendous downgrade.

    They didn't have much choice. Those guys weren't going to leave millions on the table, like West did. And they were dead-set on signing Durant.

    When Durant turns out to be a one year rental, and they have to start paying Curry real money they'll really be screwed. Welcome to salary cap .

  19. #44
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Post Count
    8,041
    They didn't have much choice. Those guys weren't going to leave millions on the table, like West did. And they were dead-set on signing Durant.

    When Durant turns out to be a one year rental, and they have to start paying Curry real money they'll really be screwed. Welcome to salary cap .
    Ezeli could have, but I don't blame him for taking more money. Bogut was still under contract. It was him or Igoudala that needed to be traded. They chose Bogut.

  20. #45
    Veteran sasaint's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Post Count
    14,298
    Ezeli could have, but I don't blame him for taking more money. Bogut was still under contract. It was him or Igoudala that needed to be traded. They chose Bogut.
    Probably a poor choice by a FO that is "light years" beyond the rest of the league.

  21. #46
    Veteran sasaint's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Post Count
    14,298
    He said nothing but good things when last season was over. I think he believed the Spurs were going to offer him a lot more money for a second season (after opting out). When that didn't happen, his memory changed. It reminded me of the way Derek Anderson acted after the Spurs didn't make keeping him their top priority that offseason. You know... disrespected. He always played with a chip on his shoulder, which is fine. Off the court, it's not so good.

    Still say he should never have been forced into playing center. His whole career was at PF, and he's tall enough for that.
    That was exactly my take on DWest - especially forcing him to play center (not to mention consistently pairing him with Diaw). Stupid fouls and all, DWest is not a guy I will miss, but I can't disparage him.

  22. #47
    Veteran spursistan's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    14,864
    Ezeli could have, but I don't blame him for taking more money. Bogut was still under contract. It was him or Igoudala that needed to be traded. They chose Bogut.
    Bogut awful-looking injury in the Finals--and his health history-- probably scared them off and played a part in that choice...The downgrade from him (+ Ezeli) looks to be way bigger and costly than a potential one from Iggy (turns 33 in January) to Linvingston..Wonder if given a mulligan, they would revisit it.

    This is a juggernaut that have won a freakin 140 games in the past 2 seasons, but are pedestrian 22-10 in that span without Bogut in the lineup pushing and shoving defenders off Golden State gunners. Ad you have to wonder, they would have most likely beaten the Clippers in 2014 First round playoffs if he wasn't injured and out of the series.

  23. #48
    Big in Japan GSH's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Post Count
    14,093
    Ezeli could have, but I don't blame him for taking more money. Bogut was still under contract. It was him or Igoudala that needed to be traded. They chose Bogut.

    Yeah, I shouldn't have said that Bogut could have taken less money. My point was that sending Bogut to Dallas was a pure salary dump, to be able to afford Durant. They also renounced their RFA rights to Harrison Barnes, so that Dallas could sign him right away - all so they could make sure and have cap space for Durant. Signing Durant essentially cost them Bogut, Barnes, and Ezili. And people wonder why it didn't look like the same team the other night.

    The sweetest part, for me, is that they now have too many stars in the starting 5 and there just aren't any additional shot opportunities. Back in pre-season, people started figuring that out and speculating that one of them needed to come off the bench. Kerr even commented that he didn't know if Durant would be starting - but he has Durant's player option hanging over his head. If he sends Durant to the bench, he knows it will be a one-year rental. He can't break up the Splash Brothers, and even if he did that would mean Klay because Curry sure as isn't coming off the bench.

    So they got one of the best scorers in the league, but he's got to take shots from two of the best shooters in the league. To get full impact out of Durant, they would have to move him to the bench, and that would mean they lose him after one year. When you think about it, unless the starters' aggregate TS% increases from last year (which would be difficult), they won't really see any net gain from having Durant. It's really sort of beautiful, if you're not a Dubs fan.

  24. #49
    Veteran james evans's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Post Count
    5,780
    I told everyone that signing West would be bad for GS. No one believed me. They saw KD and Curry(2 of the worst defending offensive threats) together and assumed we should just give them the le for the next 3 years

  25. #50
    Hope springs eternal. SAGirl's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    27,774
    Yeah, I shouldn't have said that Bogut could have taken less money. My point was that sending Bogut to Dallas was a pure salary dump, to be able to afford Durant. They also renounced their RFA rights to Harrison Barnes, so that Dallas could sign him right away - all so they could make sure and have cap space for Durant. Signing Durant essentially cost them Bogut, Barnes, and Ezili. And people wonder why it didn't look like the same team the other night.

    The sweetest part, for me, is that they now have too many stars in the starting 5 and there just aren't any additional shot opportunities. Back in pre-season, people started figuring that out and speculating that one of them needed to come off the bench. Kerr even commented that he didn't know if Durant would be starting - but he has Durant's player option hanging over his head. If he sends Durant to the bench, he knows it will be a one-year rental. He can't break up the Splash Brothers, and even if he did that would mean Klay because Curry sure as isn't coming off the bench.

    So they got one of the best scorers in the league, but he's got to take shots from two of the best shooters in the league. To get full impact out of Durant, they would have to move him to the bench, and that would mean they lose him after one year. When you think about it, unless the starters' aggregate TS% increases from last year (which would be difficult), they won't really see any net gain from having Durant. It's really sort of beautiful, if you're not a Dubs fan.
    That was a point that raybies made and I think he's right (though an early observation). He had another insight which I found interesting. That the Durant offense is less dynamic than the Curry offense and that Curry the past season running off screens (which Bogut was a major part off, with Raymond of course), his play off the ball and how defenses had to bend to account for him, made it incredibly difficult to deal with them as a team. Curry helped open opportunities for easy baskets for a lot of others guys. Durant's offense doesn't have the same effect. So, he can get hot posting up smaller guys from the midrange, that's less scary than the Curry 3s who at times seemed unstoppable and there was nothing you can do but switch and follow him around, which created a lot of opportunities for others.

    They will look better I am sure, but Durant taking the ball from Curry doesn't help the team be better than they were last season and then on top of that they lost roleplayers that did little blue collar things that are always unappreciated. They lost some guys that helped the team be great within their roles and they are not going to get those similar things from D.West.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •