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    Terrible thread...

    Guy seriously asking why a shooter moves better without the ball then a non shooter??

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    Terrible thread...

    Guy seriously asking why a shooter moves better without the ball then a non shooter??
    THIS.

    Its like comparing Reggie Miller with, let's say, Andre Miller lol.

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    ^ speaking of andre miller, i'd rather him run the point than parker. same way i felt last year.

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    Parker Thread!

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    This......

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    He hasn't been the same since his leg injury some time back. Never actually recovered the ability to turn the corner on a defender which means he cannot lose coverage without the ball either.

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    Porker is never gonna beat anyone off the dribble any more. He is done as a guard.

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    Has Patty ever scored as much as Parker in a season?
    Has Patty ever scored as much as Parker in a playoff series?
    Has Patty ever had as many assists as Parker in a season?
    Has Patty ever had as many assists as Parker in a playoff series?

    So, what good is all this "off the ball movement" if it doesn't produce?

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    Porker is never gonna beat anyone off the dribble any more. He is done as a guard.
    Lol, he was beating guys off the dribble last night. Patty on the other hand...

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    As mentioned, the Spurs used to base their entire offense around Parker moving without the ball. So this thread is already off to a bad start. However, if the question is why is Tony not Patty, then there are multiple reasons behind that. But the biggest is that Tony is and was much better driving than he was shooting, which isn't the case for Patty. So Tony moving off the ball for most of his offense doesn't make a lot of sense. Teams are going to let him get open threes nowadays, because he's likely not going to even take those shots.

    Also, Patty has the benefit of playing with Manu and before this year Diaw, whereas Tony has to play with Kawhi and LMA. The success of running off the ball with you have other natural play-makers feeding you is a lot higher than if you're the best play-maker on the floor but are depending on someone else to set you up.

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    As mentioned, the Spurs used to base their entire offense around Parker moving without the ball. So this thread is already off to a bad start. However, if the question is why is Tony not Patty, then there are multiple reasons behind that. But the biggest is that Tony is and was much better driving than he was shooting, which isn't the case for Patty. So Tony moving off the ball for most of his offense doesn't make a lot of sense. Teams are going to let him get open threes nowadays, because he's likely not going to even take those shots.

    Also, Patty has the benefit of playing with Manu and before this year Diaw, whereas Tony has to play with Kawhi and LMA. The success of running off the ball with you have other natural play-makers feeding you is a lot higher than if you're the best play-maker on the floor but are depending on someone else to set you up.
    Truth....nuke

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