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    the waiving of nico today seems to suggest FO not paying any attention to the ST experts yet again.
    Will they ever learn?


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    Murray will get more starts because Parker will get more rest, and pop doesn't like changing the rotation. Parker will then follow up each of those by forcing shots to prove himself. Maybe he finds something we can work with in the process, who knows.

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    While I totally agree on your assessment of his skills I have to disagree that he should have more playing time. The sample we're seeing is mostly garbage time minutes where he is playing against fringe d leaguers. Even Anderson looks passable against them. When he's up against starting caliber players he turns the ball over to much. Tony may not be able to get to the rim the way he used to but he still has a decent turnover rate. Currently the spurs turn the ball over an average of 13 times a game. While that's not the best rate in the league it's a great rate for a team that passes as much as the spurs. If Murray had more minutes early that number would significantly increase as well as our losses. He's still really young and I believe d league and garbage time combined with a full off-season of working on his ball control is the right combination. Starting him or even putting him as the first of the bench would be pointing away our playoff seeding and any hopes for home court advantage. Of course given how we've played at home compared to away that might not be a bad thing...

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    the waiving of nico today seems to suggest FO not paying any attention to the ST experts yet again.
    not defending everyone on spurstalk but i never anyone say the spurs needed nico.

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    Murray will get more starts because Parker will get more rest, and pop doesn't like changing the rotation. Parker will then follow up each of those by forcing shots to prove himself. Maybe he finds something we can work with in the process, who knows.
    To think years past who would've expected Popovich to give any run to a 19 yr old rookie much less starting at PG.

    And as you state during Parkers rest games young Murray will be toting the ball to a pool of seasoned and championship vets in the starting lineup.

    It'll make those particular games very appealing to watch.

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    Needs to gain 20 pounds and learn how to finish through contact. Why would you advocate for more minutes when he'd take away minutes from proven guys like Tony and Patty. That's just plain stupid.

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    Give him some good teammates and he'd average a triple-double.
    Rofl. Okay.

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    This guy...Im hyped about Murray...looks nasty! sometimes!!

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    Needs to go wherever he can get the most reps. Same for Bertans frankly.

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    not defending everyone on spurstalk but i never anyone say the spurs needed nico.
    I was referring more to the subject of this thread and how the release of Nico certainly suggests the Spurs FO has a different perspective on Murray than our ST experts do.

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    I think he'all get run against bad teams, but absent injury and the occasional Parker rest, he'll be racking up D League starts.

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    He still dribbles way too high, he will easily get picked off in the NBA over and over and over again. He is a pretty strong finisher at the rim, but he needs to develop on his decision making and bball IQ.

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    This guy being the truth would be such a huge ing win for us. It's exactly what we need.

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    On a serious note, the timing of Murray's development could be huge with Tony fading, Patty and Manu likely leaving, which is why punting on Nico was such a surprise.

    Murray may have to grow up quickly.

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    On a serious note, the timing of Murray's development could be huge with Tony fading, Patty and Manu likely leaving, which is why punting on Nico was such a surprise.

    Murray may have to grow up quickly.
    originally I predicted him as the most impactful rookie due precisely to need... He still has a lot of time to earn that Nostradamus prediction for me...

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    originally I predicted him as the most impactful rookie due precisely to need... He still has a lot of time to earn that Nostradamus prediction for me...

    Like the mythical Cassandra you have the gift of prophecy but hopefully not her curse that no one will believe you.

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    Like the mythical Cassandra you have the gift of prophecy but hopefully not her curse that no one will believe you.
    Lol I have more sense of humor than it shows... Lol
    I try to avoid troll takes though and hate wagons which is what passes for humor in the forum. . Hopefully kid shows up. He was my draft pick too. I was bound to get a good prediction on someone!!!

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    On a serious note, the timing of Murray's development could be huge with Tony fading, Patty and Manu likely leaving, which is why punting on Nico was such a surprise.

    Murray may have to grow up quickly.
    This talk of Patty Mills leaving is not what I want to hear. I can't think of a (role) player I wanted to finish his career here more than Mills.
    Very much hope there's some salary cap gymnastics that can meet his worth in 2017.

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    Spurs gotta keep their talent. There is only so much a superstar like kawhi can take.

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    Spurs gotta keep their talent. There is only so much a superstar like kawhi can take.
    RC is as sharp as they come and Spurs are producing 60 win seasons. I think they'll keep the talent. Only problem is Patty wants to be a starter somewhere which is understandable as he's been a career backup. In his Spurs time he's gone from a fringe NBA player to a champion and serious 6th man of the year candidate. He also was a factor in wooing LMA. The problem is he won't want to be a stopgap between Parker and Murray for a year or so at best. We may lose him. Everyone else I trust PATFO to keep,if they want them.

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    If he leaves I hope he gets a near-max deal along with his starting role.

    I'll cheer the for him unless he's on a rival.

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    RC is as sharp as they come and Spurs are producing 60 win seasons. I think they'll keep the talent. Only problem is Patty wants to be a starter somewhere which is understandable as he's been a career backup. In his Spurs time he's gone from a fringe NBA player to a champion and serious 6th man of the year candidate. He also was a factor in wooing LMA. The problem is he won't want to be a stopgap between Parker and Murray for a year or so at best. We may lose him. Everyone else I trust PATFO to keep,if they want them.
    Good take.

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    If he leaves I hope he gets a near-max deal along with his starting role.

    I'll cheer the for him unless he's on a rival.
    Agreed. Patty is a class act.

    Cheers

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    Spurs can trade Pau and have enough salary to pay Mills next year. That guy completely stops the motion offense on the half-court sets and just looks lost out there at times, not to mention a stat padder.

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    With lapro getting cut, Murray spending a bunch of time in Austin is no longer an option. So the whole develop in the D league idea some of you are talking about is simply not what pop has in mind.

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