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    If three-point shooting was better in yesterday's NBA, why did they have to shorten the three-point line in the actual games?
    Supposedly to increase scoring, which totally backfired because it packed the paint. Scoring actually went down.

    It wasn't until the league changed the perimeter defense rules to open up the game that we finally saw an uptick in the scoring average in the league.

    Dude. They don't play defense at all in the 3pt contest. The players are on a break. And being the only one on the floor shooting is different anyway. To even compare the two is pretty laughable.
    No doubt, but we are talking about pure shooting with all the variables taken out. You can say that players are shooting the three in today's NBA defense vs. yesterday's NBA defense, but the variable is that today's NBA defense is different from yesterday's NBA defense.

    Easy, in the 3pt contest the sample size is very small. Nobody said the best yesterday's NBA three point shooters aren't as good as the best three point shooters of today, just that the guys capable of hitting threes in today's NBA is a lot more significant.

    Besides, lol NBA 3pt contest, what counts are the actual games, tbh.
    We are talking about the best vs. the best. So Curry is as good as Craig Hodges? Good for him.

    Is Curry the best shooter ever then?

    Only if you don't understand how basketball works. , we could shoot a decent percentage from 12 feet but not in an NBA game.

    You don't get a rack of balls during the game (though you might get your balls racked) so you have to be on right away. Once you're dialed in, even many non NBA players could hit the 3 at a high clip, they just can't dribble, pass or defend.
    But the narrative is that :today's NBA players are so much better than yesterday's NBA players in 3 pt shooting.

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    To inflate the stats of 1 man


    DK
    Problem was, the shortened 3 pt line was put in while DK was still serving his suspension.

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    Not that I'm defending the position that shooters are better today, but...can you really make an argument based on an all-star festivity?
    Of course. If :today's NBA players are better at 3 pt shooting, they should be better at the 3 pt shooting contest.

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    Problem was, the shortened 3 pt line was put in while DK was still serving his suspension.
    Maybe DK asked for a shortened 3 pt line as a condition for his comeback

    THE PLOT THICKENS

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    Problem was, the shortened 3 pt line was put in while DK was still serving his suspension.
    Stern used The Suspension! as an opportunity to sneak in rule changes to make it easier for DK to win.

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    Told yall my ninja amb was gonna body some of yall ...
    dude is ruthless and relentless

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    Maybe DK asked for a shortened 3 pt line as a condition for his comeback

    THE PLOT THICKENS
    Stern used The Suspension! as an opportunity to sneak in rule changes to make it easier for DK to win.
    Valid points, and that got me thinking as well. Jordan does have a lot of sway on the league back then, he was the puppet-master of Stern like how Lebron is the puppet-master of the Cavs.

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    If three-point shooting was better in yesterday's NBA, why did they have to shorten the three-point line in the actual games?
    To increase NBA scoring to make it more appealing to save falling ratings after their meal ticket abruptly retired.


    To inflate the stats of 1 man


    DK
    Considering they shortened it after he retired the first time then put it back before he retired the 2nd time, one would come up with a much conclusion if they were thinking logically.

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    To increase NBA scoring to make it more appealing to save falling ratings after their meal ticket abruptly retired.




    Considering they shortened it after he retired the first time then put it back before he retired the 2nd time, one would come up with a much conclusion if they were thinking logically.
    DK asked for a shortened 3 pt line as a condition for his comeback

    THE PLOT THICKENS.

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    To increase NBA scoring to make it more appealing to save falling ratings after their meal ticket abruptly retired.
    But I thought yesterday's shooters were just as good as today's, if not better? Why would they need to shorten the line to increase scoring? Today's shooters don't need a shortened three-point line.

    Also, at falling for the "Jordan retired" meme.

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    We are talking about the best vs. the best. So Curry is as good as Craig Hodges? Good for him.

    Is Curry the best shooter ever then?
    Of course Hodges isn't as good as Curry. When has Hodges displayed the kind of in-game shooting that Curry did? Don't be purposely dumb son.

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    Supposedly to increase scoring, which totally backfired because it packed the paint. Scoring actually went down.

    It wasn't until the league changed the perimeter defense rules to open up the game that we finally saw an uptick in the scoring average in the league.



    No doubt, but we are talking about pure shooting with all the variables taken out. You can say that players are shooting the three in today's NBA defense vs. yesterday's NBA defense, but the variable is that today's NBA defense is different from yesterday's NBA defense.



    We are talking about the best vs. the best. So Curry is as good as Craig Hodges? Good for him.

    Is Curry the best shooter ever then?



    But the narrative is that :today's NBA players are so much better than yesterday's NBA players in 3 pt shooting.
    I addressed that. What do you think I was saying? Being a great 3pt shooter doesn't just mean being able to get dialed in with a rack of balls. It means during the flow of the game you can knock down 3's. Do I need to write this in fat crayons for you to get it? Of course the 3pt shooters of today are better, that's all they do. Pretending someone who takes 2 3pt shots a game to someone who takes 10 or more is futile. Marc Gasol is a great 3pt shooter compared to early 3pt shooters.

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    Of course. If :today's NBA players are better at 3 pt shooting, they should be better at the 3 pt shooting contest.
    No it's not. You're talking about 30 shots. Take that to 300 or even 600 shots in the flow of the game. So if Curry goes 5 for 30 during the normal course of a few games, he's worse than someone who goes 6 for 30 on average for their careers?

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    Of course Hodges isn't as good as Curry. When has Hodges displayed the kind of in-game shooting that Curry did? Don't be purposely dumb son.
    As a three point shooter, of course.

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    I addressed that. What do you think I was saying? Being a great 3pt shooter doesn't just mean being able to get dialed in with a rack of balls. It means during the flow of the game you can knock down 3's. Do I need to write this in fat crayons for you to get it? Of course the 3pt shooters of today are better, that's all they do. Pretending someone who takes 2 3pt shots a game to someone who takes 10 or more is futile. Marc Gasol is a great 3pt shooter compared to early 3pt shooters.
    disagree. If someone is better at shooting in game, he's better shooting it in a 3 pt contest as well. The reverse may not be true.

    As for those fat crayons, are you going to dip your fingers in wax?

    No it's not. You're talking about 30 shots. Take that to 300 or even 600 shots in the flow of the game. So if Curry goes 5 for 30 during the normal course of a few games, he's worse than someone who goes 6 for 30 on average for their careers?
    If Curry goes 5 for 30 in a contest, then he is worse than someone who went 6 for 30 in the same contest.

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    As a three point shooter, of course.
    Oh, yeah? Whn did Hodges pull something like this?



    I repeat, don't be purposely dumb son. You sometimes get there without having to try.

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    today's NBA crew taking L after L.

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    today's NBA crew taking L after L.
    I'm confused

    Is today's NBA crew actually the yesterday's NBA crew?

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    Regardless, I own both

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    Here's what Steve Kerr, who won the three-point contest in yesterday's NBA, had to say about the differences between shooting in the contest and shooting in actual games:

    What are the keys to succeeding in the 3-Point Shootout?

    I finally won on my last trip and I always felt like looking back, I just cared too much the first three times around. I wasn't loose, I was a little nervous and it is a very awkward thing to go out there and shoot all of those shots in front of everyone without having any teammates. It's different. You're firing away 25 shots in a minute. You're just not used to that kind of event. So the first couple of times I was a little nervous and I had more success later on when I just sort of relaxed and said, 'Have fun, enjoy it, let it fly and don't worry about it.' I think that's probably the best advice I can give to people.

    Is it challenging to shoot off a rack in the compe ion instead of receiving passes in a game?

    It's a little tricky. It really is. I practiced before hand and got used to it. A lot of players are more comfortable catching from a pass or even shooting off the dribble.

    http://www.newsday.com/news/new-york...kend-1.4648403

    Meanwhile, yesterday's NBA fan pretends it's the same thing.

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    I'm confused

    Is today's NBA crew actually the yesterday's NBA crew?
    yup

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    Oh, yeah? Whn did Hodges pull something like this?



    I repeat, don't be purposely dumb son. You sometimes get there without having to try.
    How can someone do something purposely without trying?

    But then of course, we have always been talking about 3pt contest, as the le of the thread and pretty much all the post have been about. Unsure why you are pulling an in game reel to prove anything.

    It's like saying the archery Olympic gold medalist is not as good of an archer who hunts with a bow.

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    Here's what Steve Kerr, who won the three-point contest in yesterday's NBA, had to say about the differences between shooting in the contest and shooting in actual games:

    What are the keys to succeeding in the 3-Point Shootout?

    I finally won on my last trip and I always felt like looking back, I just cared too much the first three times around. I wasn't loose, I was a little nervous and it is a very awkward thing to go out there and shoot all of those shots in front of everyone without having any teammates. It's different. You're firing away 25 shots in a minute. You're just not used to that kind of event. So the first couple of times I was a little nervous and I had more success later on when I just sort of relaxed and said, 'Have fun, enjoy it, let it fly and don't worry about it.' I think that's probably the best advice I can give to people.

    Is it challenging to shoot off a rack in the compe ion instead of receiving passes in a game?

    It's a little tricky. It really is. I practiced before hand and got used to it. A lot of players are more comfortable catching from a pass or even shooting off the dribble.

    http://www.newsday.com/news/new-york...kend-1.4648403

    Meanwhile, yesterday's NBA fan pretends it's the same thing.
    And yet :today's NBA player can't even break a 20 year old record set by a scrub in :yesterday's NBA.

    Showing today's NBA players wilting under pressure and not being able to loosen up on something they were supposedly so much better than yesterday's NBA players.

    today's NBA players can't even practice shooting off a rack properly.

    today's NBA players are supposedly these super quick shooters who can't shoot 25 balls in a minute like yesterday's NBA.

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    How can someone do something purposely without trying?
    I said "don't be purposely dumb son. You sometimes get there without having to try." meaning you sometimes get dumb without trying, so don't do it on purpose too. I think it was clear to understand for anyone with basic levels of reading comprehension skills, tbh.

    But then of course, we have always been talking about 3pt contest, as the le of the thread and pretty much all the post have been about. Unsure why you are pulling an in game reel to prove anything.

    It's like saying the archery Olympic gold medalist is not as good of an archer who hunts with a bow.
    You for real son? Your "As a three point shooter, of course" answer was in response to this comment I made:

    Of course Hodges isn't as good as Curry. When has Hodges displayed the kind of in-game shooting that Curry did? Don't be purposely dumb son.
    At first I thought you were being purposely dumb, now I'm starting to doubt it, tbh.

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    Judging shooters based on the three-point contest (which bears almost no resemblance to the conditions of shooting in an actual game) is like judging hitters in baseball on how well they perform in the Home Run Derby.

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