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Well, he's clearly the best player on the Spurs right now. David, in his prime, was a freak of nature.
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Old man who is slightly younger than DRob
Can he get to 71 like DRob though? My old wrinkled ass got to hear that game on the radio lol.
Well, he's clearly the best player on the Spurs right now. David, in his prime, was a freak of nature.
Sincerely,
Old man who is slightly younger than DRob
Points Per Game 1979-80
1. George Gervin* • SAS 33.1
2. World B. Free • SDC 30.2
3. Adrian Dantley* • UTA 28.0
4. Julius Erving* • PHI 26.9
5. Moses Malone* • HOU 25.8
6. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* • LAL 24.8
7. Dan Issel* • DEN 23.8
8. Elvin Hayes* • WSB 23.0
9. Otis Birdsong • KCK 22.7
10. Mike Mitc • CLE 22.2
It's not like everyone was getting 30 a game. Definitely more physical back then, lots of thugs..
The Spurs that year were like Steve Nash phoenix suns....#1 offense/last in defense.
Gervin was a scoring machine.
Player Fan Thread Fail....
Can Kawhi average more than 20pts per game for more than 2-3 seasons until we just make these attention whoring threads?
Duncan was a monster in his prime...double teams on the regular on the block and let's not forget the kiss off the glass..For Duncan to average what he did while not shooting 3's and being an average FT shooter says it all tbh..
It's always been easier for wings/guards to score when the hand check rule was eliminated..
Last edited by coachmac87; 02-01-2017 at 11:59 AM.
Silliness ensues. I love Kawhi's game, but Duncan was a way better scorer in his prime. He could have averaged 30 a game, but Pop wanted to play a slow down, defense heavy style that capped his scoring potential. In this era, a prime Duncan would feast. And while he couldn't shoot threes like Kawhi, that's not a big man's role. No question he would rule the block and he wouldnt have to hit elbow fades to score in the paint. That said, Kawhi has really matured as a scorer and maybe he'll be better than Tim when he reaches his prime in another two years.
The spurs are playing at 93 possession. It's a slow team.
The spurs played the duncan era as giving him the ball.
He also had peak 20 year olds HOF.
Stopbthe nostalgia. There is no numerical evidence to your point... Everything you say is a what if..he would have if he wanted to bs.
interesting ...
Fail.
Yeah...he doesn't have peak Manu or Tony. But he's got some big time pieces around him. Anderson and Mills. Anderson is a much better passer than Parker ever was. And Mills a better shooter than Manu.
I love Leonard and he has a chance to be in the top 2 or 3 Spurs of all time. But to suggest he is doing it on his own is ludicrous.
"Anderson 2 assists Per36 minutes >>> HOF PG in Top 5 all time in playoff assists"
Robinson was probably a superior scorer(has become forgotten in history), but Kawhi could surpass him if he keeps improving..I don't know if I can recall a player developing the way Kawhi has, tbh, it's unreal..
Duncan was a very good scorer, but I don't think he was ever a great scorer..it was never his game, tbh..
Not sure how Anderson and Mills would even be compared to a peak Manu and Tony.
Yes but you need to stop pretending that your doing an apple to apple comparison. It never is when comparing eras. You don't cite the pace the Spurs played when Duncan was playing so your stat on pace with Kawhi is mostly meaningless.
I would say Duncan had way more moves on the block than Robinson, who was more of a face up driver. I think there was more skill to Duncan's game, but I guess we never established the definition of "scorer." Is that the guy that scored the most? Was the most unguardable? Scored in the most variety? The answer could be different based on the definition of scorer.
Is this the idiot that wanted to trade Kawhi for Beal and Ariza?
Comparing Kawhi's offense in this era to Tim Duncan's offense in his era is absolutely laughable.
They are guarding everyone on the team like Andre Roberson and Tony Allen.
It's overly simplistic to speak of "scoring" as one single thing. There are many different ways of scoring. Tim was a great post scorer. (If you needed points, and Prime Duncan was on your team, you fed him the ball in the post and were guaranteed to get points or free throws.) Robinson was a great faceup scorer. Kawhi is the most versatile scorer the franchise has ever seen.
I'm not doubting Duncan's ability as a scorer, tbh..it's not just a matter of talent, though..I watched Tim's entire career and I never doubted that he could get the Spurs a basket when they needed one, but I also was aware that he always wanted to keep his teammates involved and didn't consistently have the mentality of a volume scorer
I don't recall anybody ever considering Tim to be a great volume scorer, at the time..his dominance was due to his all-around game(very good scorer, good passer for his position, all-time defender, all-time high IQ, etc)
-Mentality(many players can be great scorers, but don't have the mentality of being perceived as a ballhog or just prefer to consistently keep teammates involved..KG comes to mind)
- Cir stance(does the team need the player to consistently score big numbers to win? David Robinson's teams needed him to carry them more than Tim's teams did)
-Era(it's certainly true that Kawhi's era is friendlier for scoring)
David Robinson led the NBA in scoring and did it efficiently, too, IIRC..he also had the mentality to drop 70 points in a game, too, which is obviously an all-time feat that few could accomplish..
Well then you haven't been here very long
Got to wait till kawhi averages 36 in a series like Duncan did to put him ahead of him. IMO
I think it's certainly fair to wait and see Kawhi in the playoffs before crowning him, like Floyd said..he didn't score at a level that was anywhere near peak Duncan in either of his attempts as the #1 option, so far..
The 2002 and 2003 Lakers series' come to mind, as well as the 2006 Mavs series()
Duncan's prime has unfortunately become largely forgotten and underrated, even by supposed Spurs fans.
He was an outstanding isolation scorer in his youth, not only with his back to the basket, but facing up in the mid post and going off the dribble.
As far as his relatively pedestrian points per game averages, it was a combination of era, lack of surrounding talent (zero even somewhat reliable perimeter creator until at least '03), his unselfish personality and his middling free throw shooting and nonexistent three-point shooting.
Leonard has to prove it, in the playoffs, as the lead option, to enter this conversation.
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