Manchin Admits That He And Other Senators Have Met With The Russian Ambassador

[Winehole23]

the problem isn't lying but getting caught out in lies. veracity seems to be big problem for Team Trump.

[pgardn]

Politicians lie!! Everyone panic!!! This is a travesty how dare a politician lie!!!!

When you lie about such seemingly easy events to track down it shows a level of very low intelligence, or you just don't give a damn. Or you have lost your mind. It is revealing.

[baseline bum]

Again remember this... The election was a total shocker. You can find your oddball that picks the long shot in any horse race, but otherwise, it was a massive surprise. Why do people forget this? Because Trump won a narrow election it's no longer a surprise? Go back at the time. CNN was slobbering over what was to be a big victory. Late into the night, FOX was throwing a giant surprise party. Hater had backed out on his prediction and picked Clinton. (This is the only event that would reveal Trump was The winner for me)

No it wasn't. The media is stupid and don't understand the idea of dependence of random variables. They kept acting like Trump had to win 7 or 8 coin flips in a row, which would have an extremely low probability of happening. But Nate Silver kept pointing out how correlated many of the states' votes were. It's why he gave Trump a 1 in 3 chance of winning the electoral vote on that dark Tuesday morning. He kept writing if the polling was 1.5 points off in the wrong direction Clinton was primed to lose critical states in the rust belt and thus the election, and that a couple of points error in the polls is pretty standard in a presidential election. He even gave a 10% chance Trump would win the electoral vote and lose the popular vote. This result was not a shocker, more a somewhat surprising upset. A shocker would have been Romney beating Obama or Kasich getting the GOP nomination.