Al Qaeda and the Left agree on war strategy!

[Nbadan]

We're not talking about an "exit strategy," We're talking about the Howard Deans, the Cindy Sheehans, the Nbadans, who want us to drop everything and leave...now.

That's the left we're talking about.

, I think we need an exit strategy...but, I also believe we have one. And, Saturday's election is just another step in that direction.

And, I think you're wrong. There are elements of the extreme left that would like nothing better than for this administration to be defeated in Iraq -- even at the expense of the soldiers and our security.

It's always another step in the right direction for Bush apologist, another corner turned, another mountain climbed, but yet the security situation in Iraq always seems to get worse with each of their ideological hurdles cleared. The latest bid to 'wait till the cons ution is approved' will be no different.

No one wants the U.S. to lose in Iraq, but only Progressives want to bring our boys home as soon as possible. Like the election of Talibani, the cons ution may be approved simply because it will lead to a much quicker withdrawal of foreign troops from Iraq than not approving it, but there continues to be widespread opposition to the do ent even among Shiite.

The Bush administration has shown that it is unwilling to make the difficult political choices to win In Iraq. We saw in Vietnam what happens when politicians in Washington tie the hands of military leaders on the field, denying them the troop levels and heavy armour they desperately need to curb the insurgency in Iraq and secure the borders is no different.

[Nbadan]

Wrong Tostada. The left have used terms like "quagmire" to draw similarities with Vietnam and at times calling IRaq another Vietnam. The difference between a Republican Pullout and a Liberal Pullout is that the republicans will pull out after iraq can defend itself. THe left on the other hand want to withdraw early thus intentionally losing the war.

I thought we won the war when we deposed Saddam. Isn't that what invading Iraq was about? When did the U.S. get into the business of nation-building?

What's gonna happen in Iraq is gonna happen whether the U.S. has 150K troops there or not. Already we don't control much outside of Baghdad, and even portions of the Iraqi capital have come under the control of roving insurgents at times. A recent headcount of fighter captured in Fallujah showed that less than 5% were foreign fighters. Most of those captured were native Iraqis fighting for the freedom of their country against a foreign invader.

Progressives want the administration to stop the bleeding of daily losses of American troops because each death represents the loss of a mother, father, daughter or son. There are only two real alternatives in Iraq and neither of them are very pretty, either the administration increases the level of troops securing Iraq and it's borders, and thus the security situation, or we bring our boys home - now!

[boutons]

"The left to propagandize this war"

The war was "propagandized", connotation of lying, by dubya, head, wolfy, rummy, condi, powell with all the completely false "justifications", not a single one of which has played out.

The Repubs are ed if they stay, they're ed if they leave. But I think they should stay to get ed some more, at least until this weekend's Cons utional election. If the Const gets voted down, GAMEOVER. wolfie's Impossible Dream (which was at best only 3rd lie behind WMD and Saddam = threat) of democracy flowering in the ME in a US-destroyed basket case of Iraq will be shown to be nothing but the nightmare is alwasy was, has been proven to be.

[ChumpDumper]

Wouldn't Zarqawi like to know.

It's going to happen anyway, right? It's not like they won't announce it qonce they actually decide.