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    I think this will be great, I think Bertans is severely underrated... trade Aldridge for a wing similar in skill set to kawhi (or to make space for Paul George)...

    Bertans is actually decent on defense for a rookie, and he will definitely space the floor on offense and open the lane up for kawhi and Murray...He can also put the ball on the floor
    Have no problem with this, and it would piss off lma.

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    LMA still holds value as a 5, he is an above average rim protector, can defend the post and switch out on to the perimeter, albeit with varied results. I would hope that he takes a step forward and start taking more 3's next season to further stretch the floor.

    I always thought that the "I don't want to play the 5" was more to do with him not wanting to bang in the post. I still think Pop could talk him into starting at the 5 and closing at the 5.



    PG-Murray-Mills-Parker
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    Love that lineup tbh If all it takes is dumping Pau to resign Mills and Simmons, I'm all for it. That lineup has a great mix, of experience and youth. Let them play it again with more experience. Btw Jeff Withey could be had for the min.

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    so a player should only be a starter if they are an all star? lol....interesting logic
    One point has nothing to do with the other. WTF?

    Exhibit #1: Manu Ginobili.

    Some are saying he should start while other are saying he gonna be an All-Star some day.

    Got it? Thank you.

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    LMA still holds value as a 5, he is an above average rim protector, can defend the post and switch out on to the perimeter, albeit with varied results. I would hope that he takes a step forward and start taking more 3's next season to further stretch the floor.

    I always thought that the "I don't want to play the 5" was more to do with him not wanting to bang in the post. I still think Pop could talk him into starting at the 5 and closing at the 5.



    PG-Murray-Mills-Parker
    SG- Green-Simmons
    SF-
    Leonard- Hanga
    PF-
    Anderson-Bertans
    C-
    Aldridge-FA-Milutinov-1st round pick
    I love that group. As rabies said not only interesting mix of youth and experience but players in a position and their sub are different and provide different things and both lineups have shooting. Love them.

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    With Greens shooting slump, out of Bertans/Anderson I think Bertans would easily fit with the starting unit more. Gotta give Kawhi room to operate. Especially with presumingly Murray starting who isn't a great shooter, Bertans seems like the obvious answer.

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    LMA still holds value as a 5, he is an above average rim protector, can defend the post and switch out on to the perimeter, albeit with varied results. I would hope that he takes a step forward and start taking more 3's next season to further stretch the floor.

    I always thought that the "I don't want to play the 5" was more to do with him not wanting to bang in the post. I still think Pop could talk him into starting at the 5 and closing at the 5.



    PG-Murray-Mills-Parker
    SG- Green-Simmons
    SF-
    Leonard- Hanga
    PF-
    Anderson-Bertans
    C-
    Aldridge-FA-Milutinov-1st round pick
    It's hard for me to see that lineup doing better than 55 wins, tbh. Murray is not quite there, Green on the decline, Anderson slow, Aldridge soft. That's a lot for Kawhi to overcome.

    I'd like to see an elite PG in the SL and then slide Murray to the second unit. A full season of consistent touches with the second unit would be good for him.

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    I'm on the Anderson/Bertans PF bandwagon too. Need to see what they can do next year before the big-spending summer of 2018.

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    I am definitely in favour of this. He's Bonner on steroids. Got a very quick release, doesn't need his feet set to shoot & has shown decent defensive presence around the rim. If Ginobili retires & Simmons walks, Slowmo is going to have to take the second unit, he needs to improve his jumper though, it seems to be one of the reasons he's so tentative to shoot. He should strictly be used as a PF though, need some sort of athleticism off the bench with him, Patty & Pau

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    lma refuses to play at the 5
    He refuses to play at the 4. The 5 isn't even up for discussion.

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    Murray, Green, Kawhi, Bertans, Dedmon.

    Tbh.

    Since PATFO is too chicken to move Aldridge I guees LA instead of Dedmon would be ok too.

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    He refuses to play at the 4. The 5 isn't even up for discussion.

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    Murray, Green, Kawhi, Bertans, Dedmon.

    Tbh.

    Since PATFO is too chicken to move Aldridge I guees LA instead of Dedmon would be ok too.
    Yes, it's gonna be LA instead Dedmon because it looks like Dedmon gonna leave the team. If Murray starts and Manu continues, will be interesting look Tony and Manu coming of the bench.

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    This is a stupid thread. There's no way Davis can be a starter when he doesn't even know how to play in the NBA yet.

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    It's hard for me to see that lineup doing better than 55 wins, tbh. Murray is not quite there, Green on the decline, Anderson slow, Aldridge soft. That's a lot for Kawhi to overcome.

    I'd like to see an elite PG in the SL and then slide Murray to the second unit. A full season of consistent touches with the second unit would be good for him.
    Why would an elite PG be found in the SL???

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    With Greens shooting slump, out of Bertans/Anderson I think Bertans would easily fit with the starting unit more. Gotta give Kawhi room to operate. Especially with presumingly Murray starting who isn't a great shooter, Bertans seems like the obvious answer.
    Anderson's passing ability, rebounding and defense probably fit better than Bertans as the stating 4. imagine the collective length that SL unit would have (Murray, Green, KL, KA, LMA) they would be more versatile defensively and have the potential to force turnovers.

    Bertans shooting is still valuable but I would prefer he be the backup 4, especially if Hanga comes over and ends up being the backup 3 and Simmons is retained and is the backup 3. The backup wings both aren't good shooters si Mills and Bertans would help offset that issue

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    He refuses to play at the 4. The 5 isn't even up for discussion.
    You are like Charlie Chaplin. Don't know whether to laugh or cry.

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    With Greens shooting slump, out of Bertans/Anderson I think Bertans would easily fit with the starting unit more. Gotta give Kawhi room to operate. Especially with presumingly Murray starting who isn't a great shooter, Bertans seems like the obvious answer.
    Exactly... I dont see what ppl see in Kyle...Dude is trash

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    Anderson's passing ability, rebounding and defense probably fit better than Bertans as the stating 4. imagine the collective length that SL unit would have (Murray, Green, KL, KA, LMA) they would be more versatile defensively and have the potential to force turnovers.

    Bertans shooting is still valuable but I would prefer he be the backup 4, especially if Hanga comes over and ends up being the backup 3 and Simmons is retained and is the backup 3. The backup wings both aren't good shooters si Mills and Bertans would help offset that issue
    That would be terrible. Teams would use all five guys to defend Kawhi.

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    I think this will be great, I think Bertans is severely underrated... trade Aldridge for a wing similar in skill set to kawhi (or to make space for Paul George)...

    Bertans is actually decent on defense for a rookie, and he will definitely space the floor on offense and open the lane up for kawhi and Murray...He can also put the ball on the floor
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...00#post9024700

    What could have been.

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    Anderson's passing ability, rebounding and defense probably fit better than Bertans as the stating 4. imagine the collective length that SL unit would have (Murray, Green, KL, KA, LMA) they would be more versatile defensively and have the potential to force turnovers.

    Bertans shooting is still valuable but I would prefer he be the backup 4, especially if Hanga comes over and ends up being the backup 3 and Simmons is retained and is the backup 3. The backup wings both aren't good shooters si Mills and Bertans would help offset that issue
    But offensively, out starters will continue to struggle from 3 (Unless KA's 3 point shot takes a huge leap this summer, but I know that's not likely) and it makes KA a guy they can cheat off to throw doubles at Kawhi. How many games this post-season did we shoot terribly from 3? Who exactly would Anderson's passing benefit? There aren't really slashers in there that he could find, LMA just camps on the outside, Green at the 3 usually, and Murray, idk. I feel like his passing would benefit more guys like Simmons (assuming he's here), maybe Pau, etc.. Those guys that you mentioned not being shooters probably benefits Anderson and his ability to find guys cutting to the basket and what not.

    I'd rather have our starters be versatile enough to score from 3 and have guys who could get in the paint like Kawhi and hopefully Murray.

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    I have come around on this.

    I don't expect Pop to play much small ball. it's not his favorite style. But maybe he plays it 30-40% of the time, vs this past RS when he played it almost never. He doesn't consider Davis a small ball big. For Pop Davis is a legit stretch 4. We can say terms don't matter but they do matter for Pop's schemes, for sets etc. There's a lot where it matters.

    I look forward to watching both Anderson and Bertans more but I think I have come back down to Earth. Pop is still going to play 2 bigs the majority of the time, but since he considers Davis as a big man hopefully he will play a lot more in his second season. We shall see with Anderson. I am skeptical of Pop when it comes to him.

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    This is a stupid thread. There's no way Davis can be a starter when he doesn't even know how to play in the NBA yet.
    Some guys just project what they want in an ideal world, not the way it is.
    I have been guilty of daydreaming too. Then coming back crashing down to earth. Lol
    Also, OP tends to daydream more than most.

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    With the moves the Spurs are probably going to make (not change a damn thing):

    Murray - Tony
    Green - Manu/Hanga
    Kawhi - Simmons
    Bertans - Anderson
    Aldridge - Gasol

    That's what makes the most sense, tbh.

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    With the moves the Spurs are probably going to make (not change a damn thing):

    Murray - Tony
    Green - Manu/Hanga
    Kawhi - Simmons
    Bertans - Anderson
    Aldridge - Gasol

    That's what makes the most sense, tbh.
    It's realistic.
    The real question mark for me is LMA. We shall see. I still expect Pop to find some Center to start next to him. Maybe I don't give Pop enough credit. Maybe I am jaded but LMA is still going to be a 4 and they will put Davis in the dunker spot which completely erases his best skill.

    It all comes down to Lamarsha. If that is the plan^ better to find a legit center imo.

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    lma refuses to play at the 5
    well then put him at the 4 and surround him with guards.....

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