The tweet from Pincus said that Spurs are only signing him if Manu retires. Very specific.
Better than Green. But again, who isn't?
Simmons is a decent role player and certainly deserves reserve minutes. Shouldn't be a starter on a team with championship aspirations.
If Green can start, so can Simmons...Green is so immensely overrated on here...I'm tired of watching him get blown by on defense, clank threes, and struggle to dribble and pass...Dude had an entry pass picked off for goodness sakes...Even if Simmons is our SG off the bench, I dont want Green starting...I think every team in the NBA chooses Simmons over Green based on this past season...Green is too easy to defend vs the good teams...
The exact same thing I say about D-League Green.
He shot 33.2% from three last season and his slurpers thought LASIK surgery would fix his broken ass jumper. Then followed it up by shooting 33.3% from three this calendar year, and shot 34.2% from three in the playoffs. His "defense" got torched by every single player he guarded until Kawhi and Simmons took his assignment.
Props to him for conning a team into paying him $10,000,000/yr though
The exact same thing I say about D-League Green.
He shot 33.2% from three last season and his slurpers thought LASIK surgery would fix his broken ass jumper. Then followed it up by shooting 33.3% from three this calendar year, and shot 34.2% from three in the playoffs. His "defense" got torched by every single player he guarded until Kawhi and Simmons took his assignment.
Props to him for conning a team into paying him $10,000,000/yr though
Do you have anything to back up your arguments or just your usual eye test garbage, tbh?The exact same thing I say about D-League Green.
He shot 33.2% from three last season and his slurpers thought LASIK surgery would fix his broken ass jumper. Then followed it up by shooting 33.3% from three this calendar year, and shot 34.2% from three in the playoffs. His "defense" got torched by every single player he guarded until Kawhi and Simmons took his assignment.
Props to him for conning a team into paying him $10,000,000/yr though
He shot 38% from 3 which is well above average..he didn't shoot well in the playoffs, but if you're going to go that route, why ignore that he shot 50% from 3 in last year's playoffs?
I brought up %'s... forgot vanilla posters hate single category %'s and prefer TSDo you have anything to back up your arguments or just your usual eye test garbage, tbh?
He shot 38% from 3 which is well above average..he didn't shoot well in the playoffs, but if you're going to go that route, why ignore that he shot 50% from 3 in last year's playoffs?
37.9% to be exact, which was insanely inflated because of his first 10-15 games of the season. That's why I said "calendar year" since he was below average most of the season.
Green shot like in 2 out of the last 3 playoffs. Let's just ignore the constant mediocrity and highlight his one good year then. Let's not mention he shot worse from three these playoffs than broke jumper having Simmons...
Yep. I do think that people here underestimate his defense - especially in the playoffs. I spent some time keying on just him, and he was pretty damn good. He also got a lot better about fouling. Not making as many stupid ones, and actually making some smart ones at the right time. But unless he learns to shoot the 3 a lot more consistently, having him on the floor with Kawhi is just a cluster waiting to happen.
BUT... if he could become a legit 3-point threat? Pump-faking and then taking it to the hole, or dishing to Kawhi/LMA? That's a different story. But I don't remember many guys developing a 3P stroke that late in their careers.
Ppl can't just look at the percentages with green...He stagnates the offense vs good teams because he is a one trick pony...They run him off the line and force him to dribble, which usually leads to disaster... let's not forget his performances against the elite playoff teams (who we need to beat)...Simmons has played better vs rockets and warriors the whole season and playoffs
I agree with that. He's disappointed every post season after 2014. His game declined significantly after he signed his $$big deal.The exact same thing I say about D-League Green.
He shot 33.2% from three last season and his slurpers thought LASIK surgery would fix his broken ass jumper. Then followed it up by shooting 33.3% from three this calendar year, and shot 34.2% from three in the playoffs. His "defense" got torched by every single player he guarded until Kawhi and Simmons took his assignment.
Props to him for conning a team into paying him $10,000,000/yr though
Imagine starting Murray, Simmons, Green, and Kawhi. Defensively it would be pretty solid. I think that might be worth looking at especially since the league is going small ball anyway.
Except any team that pays attention to metrics/advanced stats. WS/48 to Green by .141 (superior starter level) to .035 (deep bench crap). How about DRPM 1.71 to -2.03 . RPM 1.27 to -0.91. VORP 2.0 to 0.0 Even PER, which is hugely weighted towards inefficient offense, Danny 10.2 Jonathan 9.9.
I will give you Simmons had a good 2 weeks in a high touch role that he only sees if we are in deep injury trouble. This may have been a hot streak for his jumper, we just don't know. I say see if we can work something by way of S&T if he wants a big contract...
I want Simmons to stop falling down every other time he drives to the basket. Let's work on that first. Then we'll talk about a starting role.
But he was in 2013, 2014.The exact same thing I say about D-League Green.
He shot 33.2% from three last season and his slurpers thought LASIK surgery would fix his broken ass jumper. Then followed it up by shooting 33.3% from three this calendar year, and shot 34.2% from three in the playoffs. His "defense" got torched by every single player he guarded until Kawhi and Simmons took his assignment.
Props to him for conning a team into paying him $10,000,000/yr though
Danny has been flat out awful since getting paid. His transition D is the only portion of his game that's been any good and that usually comes at the hefty price of a Spurs turnover.
I know he's been bad but not flat out awful. Anyway my comment was in response to Danny being a starting SG on a championship team. He was for 3 years.
Yeah that Green is never coming back. He'll be 30 with guaranteed money. It's only downhill from now.
I just posted what was on my chest. Dudes acting like he's on a bargain contract. no. Might've been a bargain when he signed it (contract year Green>>>) but now he's playing like a 3M/yr scrub. Robbed Buford and co.
The D-League player we've seen for 2-3 years now is not a starter on a championship team.
Does anyone remember off the top of your heads where Danny was drafted? He was #46. And Mills was #55. I've said it elsewhere, but some draft years have more than their share of second round gems. I have a feeling that this is going to be one of those. I'm a lot more concerned over who the Spurs draft this year, than who they sign and who they keep. I'd like to see them buy one of those for-cash second round picks that happen almost every year. If the Spurs pick well, and get a little lucky, this draft could go a long way toward making their future. A fresh pair of over-achievers, at second round rookie prices would be good for the gene pool.
For the record, though - some guys age, and become bench players. Danny isn't one of those. When he's no longer good enough to start, he's done. If he wants another contract, he better pick it up. I don't know if he's got it in him, but that ought to be motivating enough.
green's 3 point shot is GONE and his defense has been complete all year too. Since Green got paid, he has declined every year and fans keep waiting for him to break out of a slump. IT'S NOT HAPPENING. he's done. The sooner people realize this, the better things will be
The fact we were up by 21 to the Warriors I would not trade Aldridge. If we could trade Danny green for 22 (Nets), 25 (Orlando) 28 (Lakers), 30 (Jazz), 34 (Kings). We could get 2 solid young players. This draft is loaded. Simmons gets the start.
Whatever perception here is Green will undoubtedly be named to an all D team. That said, like I posited in another thread, time to try to parlay him into a draft pick, hopefully in the first round.
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