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    Great response and i agree Mitched screwed the pooch ...should have allowed Odom some time to grieve ...but Lamar also needs to take accountability for his life he wasted plenty of his talent and life both before and after that trade.

    Put rookie odom in this draft and he is easily the best natural talent same as the last 3 i am not sure even Towns porzy etc would be a better prospect much less Fultz or Ball.

    Im lime Deniro in Bronx Tale bemoaning "wasted talent" ...you see that one Cully? Great flick
    ...until it's gets into the racial area then it goes to in a hand basket. + the mother disappears about 2/3 the way thru it and she had a place in that film. Then the ending is quaint as the kid's future is assured by [Pesci] at the coffin. Please. He may have slipped him some dough, but, he ain't going to babysit him for eternity.

    And the racial bent. (Sonny) would have never in a million years sanctioned that kid's relationship with that black girl. No ing way.
    The pummeling of the motorcycle gang is comic book and it could have been superlative.

    But, it had moments:

    -(Sonny) driving backwards,
    -DeNiro sitting with the kid in the nose bleeds while the kid wants to sit ringside with (Sonny).
    -(Sonny) lecturing the kid about the other kid owing him money and avoiding him. It's a great lesson and I've used it many times since then.
    -The difference & debate between wife & DeNiro over him working for Sonny on the bus line running numbers up the route. It was refreshing to see the woman take that tact.
    -Aaron Neville's "Tell It Like It is" on the street with the neighborhood girls. The sequence is produced & executed with quality & precision. It's a high point in this film. Run the song without the video and it's bereft & barren. With the video it's everything.

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    ...until it's gets into the racial area then it goes to in a hand basket. + the mother disappears about 2/3 the way thru it and she had a place in that film. Then the ending is quaint as the kid's future is assured by [Pesci] at the coffin. Please. He may have slipped him some dough, but, he ain't going to babysit him for eternity.

    And the racial bent. (Sonny) would have never in a million years sanctioned that kid's relationship with that black girl. No ing way.
    The pummeling of the motorcycle gang is comic book and it could have been superlative.

    But, it had moments:

    -(Sonny) driving backwards,
    -DeNiro sitting with the kid in the nose bleeds while the kid wants to sit ringside with (Sonny).
    -(Sonny) lecturing the kid about the other kid owing him money and avoiding him. It's a great lesson and I've used it many times since then.
    -The difference & debate between wife & DeNiro over him working for Sonny on the bus line running numbers up the route. It was refreshing to see the woman take that tact.
    -Aaron Neville's "Tell It Like It is" on the street with the neighborhood girls. The sequence is produced & executed with quality & precision. It's a high point in this film. Run the song without the video and it's bereft & barren. With the video it's everything.
    It has its faults but i do buy that Sonny would sanction the black chick, but not as wifey ...look at what he said with the lights off under the covers etc. NO ONE CARES plus he said she just maybe one of the great ones ... She passed his test ...if C would have said he wanted to marry a colored girl preety sure he responds differently...
    Also love the scene when young C goes to confession ... great stuff.

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    It has its faults but i do buy that Sonny would sanction the black chick, but not as wifey ...look at what he said with the lights off under the covers etc. NO ONE CARES plus he said she just maybe one of the great ones ... She passed his test ...if C would have said he wanted to marry a colored girl preety sure he responds differently...
    Also love the scene when young C goes to confession ... great stuff.
    In the early '60's, in NYC? No, it wouldn't even be perceived as >wrong< (to forbid such a relationship) by Sonny and most importantly his circle & crew.

    'C' actor murdered someone I believe and ended up in prison.

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    People in here be like:






    which one is Dale? Grandpa Jones?

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    In the early '60's, in NYC? No, it wouldn't even be perceived as >wrong< (to forbid such a relationship) by Sonny and most importantly his circle & crew.

    'C' actor murdered someone I believe and ended up in prison.
    He didnt listen to DeNiro and wasted his talent... he had a brief stint on the Sopranos before he bottomed out.

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    He didnt listen to DeNiro and wasted his talent... he had a brief stint on the Sopranos before he bottomed out.
    Back to the film, Killa:::The C character (as the older child) is spoiled and I found this agitating.

    Sonny divides C's gang as good & bad. Everyone but C is bad. It's too quaint & self serving.

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    Back to the film, Killa:::The C character (as the older child) is spoiled and I found this agitating.

    Sonny divides C's gang as good & bad. Everyone but C is bad. It's too quaint & self serving.
    Well it was adapted from a stage play and those tend to to be quaint by nature ...
    I dont think he was saying C was good ...as he told the dad he wanted C to get two educations one on the street and the other in school so he could be twice as smart. Dividing him from the crew was also srlf serving they tauggt him bull like?the Mario test ...a low brow version of Sonnys test. The way i see it he was trying to Mold C ...and near the climax when he runs from the fire both father's messages are what drives him but it was Sonny that saved his life...

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