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    Considering he was the Spurs 3rd or 4th best player this year I don't see this as a problem. Plus he's one of the only current Spurs other than Kawhi to play with any ball. The Spurs have bigger personnel issues than resigning Manu for a few million.
    A few million last year turned into $14M. Carefull what you wish for.

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    I bet Manu is coming back for minimum. It's probably why the Spurs gave him so much money last year.

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    would be great having him for the minimum.

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    Considering he was the Spurs 3rd or 4th best player this year I don't see this as a problem. Plus he's one of the only current Spurs other than Kawhi to play with any ball. The Spurs have bigger personnel issues than resigning Manu for a few million.
    Yeah. Bigger problems. Such as the one where we have a 40 year old as our only capable guard.

    Him being the third or fourth best player is not acceptable. If the Spurs re-sign him, he will be overplayed. No thanks but I'm sure it'll happen anyway...

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    Dude needs to lean the other way real quick.
    If he is coming back for the minimum, I don't see the harm, tbh. In fact, it would be a very positive signing.

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    If he is coming back for the minimum, I don't see the harm, tbh. In fact, it would be a very positive signing.
    Pop will overplay him. Especially after losing Mills, Simmons, and yet another year of Danny declining.

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    Love it if it's for cheap. If the Spurs overpay him again and it eats in the cap, then I hate it, tbh.

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    Everything you've read Spurs related is all due to them chasing/getting CP3..

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    If he is coming back for the minimum, I don't see the harm, tbh. In fact, it would be a very positive signing.
    It would be awful. They need an actual solution at guard, none of this "if he can give 12 good minutes" . I'd rather Hanga take his spot at this point.

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    Welcome back ElNono

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    It would be awful. They need an actual solution at guard, none of this "if he can give 12 good minutes" . I'd rather Hanga take his spot at this point.
    Dude, what SG, that would give you Manu's type production, can you get for the minimum? I'm not even saying Manu needs to come back a rotation player, but the Spurs need to fill that roster up with as many cheap options as they can. Signing Manu for the minimum is a no brainer.

    And fwiw, unless Hanga can improve his shooting dramatically he will never be a positive NBA player, tbh.

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    Manu s have tried the convince the rest of us since 2013 that "this is his last year for sure, and it will probably be for the minimum" .... As he signs for 2yr/14M, vets min, and $14M/1yr

    Hes been a sub .400FG% player for years in the playoffs now and he continues to regress. The same people that were keeping track of Kobe's 2016 FG% are giving this scrub a free pass "to be Manu" and build brick houses and hit popcorn guys in the 12th row with his god awful passes

    He showed last year his bum ass isn't loyal. Vets min or gtfo.

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    Dude, what SG, that would give you Manu's type production, can you get for the minimum?
    That's an irrelevant question. They don't need a guard for the min. They need an actual guard to come in and play. I can't do anything about you imagining a scenario where Manu in a suit all year but is ready to come in and win a game if someone gets injured. I think that's unrealistic as all . I'd rather have a guy who at least figures into long-term players on the min than Manu, given that Ginobili will not come back and be anything less than a rotation player.

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    How much is the vet min for Manu?

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    How much is the vet min for Manu?
    Like $2.4 Million

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    It would be awful. They need an actual solution at guard, none of this "if he can give 12 good minutes" . I'd rather Hanga take his spot at this point.
    ing this. The longer this TOSB stays, the longer we'll wait to finally solve the Guard problem.

    Also @ "he'll only play 12 minutes" as Pop continues to have him be the first player off the bench and at the end of games out of pure loyalty.

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    Love Manu, 2nd favorite player ever, but wouldn't mind if he retires, tbh..Spurs need to find a new bench anchor, as all others become neutered when Manu is on the court(not due to his style of play, since everybody loves playing with him, but new players naturally defer to him)..

    If they're going to re-sign Simmons(which I don't expect), then having Manu return is an even worse idea IMO..

    In a vacuum, you won't find a better player for the minimum, but that's not the point here, tbh..sooner they let Ginobili and Parker go, sooner they can move forward..

    I was going to praise him for the Rockets series, since that was the only series that mattered for the Spurs, but I just checked and hadn't realized that he had a 43% TS during that series

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    you you nicaraguan piece of

    Go back to Conzumel and leave the spurs alone

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    This is bigger than any Chris Paul news. I am elated!

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    Everything you've read Spurs related is all due to them chasing/getting CP3..

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    That's an irrelevant question. They don't need a guard for the min. They need an actual guard to come in and play. I can't do anything about you imagining a scenario where Manu in a suit all year but is ready to come in and win a game if someone gets injured. I think that's unrealistic as all . I'd rather have a guy who at least figures into long-term players on the min than Manu, given that Ginobili will not come back and be anything less than a rotation player.
    And how do you plan to fill up the roster?

    I agree that they need an actual guard to come in an play. But that shouldn't be mutually exclusive with Manu coming back, tbh.

    Anyway, who do you pretend to sign at SG to "come in and play"? And please don't say Hanga. Manu > Hanga as a basketball player, right now. Manu for the min >>>>> Hanga for whatever he is going to ask getting paid.

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    And how do you plan to fill up the roster?

    I agree that they need an actual guard to come in an play. But that shouldn't be mutually exclusive with Manu coming back, tbh.

    Anyway, who do you pretend to sign at SG to "come in and play"? And please don't say Hanga. Manu > Hanga as a basketball player, right now. Manu for the min >>>>> Hanga for whatever he is going to ask getting paid.
    Spurs aren't over the cap...

    Needing a guard for the min is irrelevant.

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    Love Manu, 2nd favorite player ever, but wouldn't mind if he retires, tbh..Spurs need to find a new bench anchor, as all others become neutered when Manu is on the court(not due to his style of play, since everybody loves playing with him, but new players naturally defer to him)..

    If they're going to re-sign Simmons(which I don't expect), then having Manu return is an even worse idea IMO..

    In a vacuum, you won't find a better player for the minimum, but that's not the point here, tbh..sooner they let Ginobili and Parker go, sooner they can move forward..

    I was going to praise him for the Rockets series, since that was the only series that mattered for the Spurs, but I just checked and hadn't realized that he had a 43% TS during that series
    That's easily fixable with Pop just setting the system for other guy to be the focal point of the bench's offense. A guy like Murray for example, Pop just needs to got to him and say "you are the guy of the bench now" and run plays for him. Simple as that.

    Nobody is saying Manu should still be our 6th guy, what I'm saying (and what you also said) is that there is no other SG, that could be signed for the minimum, that would be as good as Manu. Why sign a worse, or more expensive option? It just doesn't make sense to me.

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    Spurs aren't over the cap...

    Needing a guard for the min is irrelevant.
    When they sign all the players they need to sign, they will be.

    What do you prefer: to have Manu for the minimum one more year, or sign a guy like Hanga, a.ka: "poor man Mbah a Moute" for more money, and multiple years?
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    And how do you plan to fill up the roster?
    With players that aren't Manu, preferably ones that the Spurs are drafting and bringing from overseas.

    I agree that they need an actual guard to come in an play. But that shouldn't be mutually exclusive with Manu coming back, tbh.
    It is. Why we're talking about what "should be" is boggling my mind. Manu's said that he's not coming back to be a bench-warmer.

    Anyway, who do you pretend to sign at SG to "come in and play"?
    I honestly haven't paid too much attention outside of max guys. I'll know more after the draft.

    This:

    Manu > Hanga as a basketball player, right now
    And this:

    Manu for the min >>>>> Hanga
    Are two very different things. Manu might be better than Hanga, but he's not a better use of a min deal/13th-man spot.

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