Sign and trade LMA for Milsap

[Dverde]

How reliable is NBA Central? Never heard of them.

[Joseph Kony]

Why do so many people constantly write this stuff. THIS IS A BUSINESS. Coaches and players understand this, apparently fans don't. Nobody is gifted anything. This is about the team and if you can improve the team by moving a player, you do it. TP's feelings. The team's goals are to win a Championship, not hurt TP's feelings. He's getting a fat 15 million dollar salary next year for basically nothing. Consider it a gift if you want. His career is over and he's finished being a productive NBA player. I feel he hasn't been a quality contributor in at least 3 years but that's just my opinion.

You think Pop gives a about TP's goals, statements to the French media or delusion about playing 20 years in the league? He probably shakes his head, does a face palm and realizes that the dude on the other end of the phone is going to cry when Pop says "We're moving your contract to another team".

You're talking about a team who gifted Manu 14 million last season for loyalty. C'mon son, you and I both know Spurs are not trading Parker. it is not happening and everyone knows it. on top of that, you have to take into account that no one wants to trade for an injured past his prime player on his last legs for 15 million, expiring or not, unless they're trading us a garbage contract in return like Noah which we don't want either.

You people need to get this idea that the spurs are going to trade Parker out of your head. Its. Not. Gonna. Happen. GUARANTEED.

[Dverde]

It would be funny if they traded Millsap to the Lakers for Deng and Randal. Deng's reaction would be priceless

[Dex]

Why? It's not clear at all why Pau opted out. It's only clear that he wants to be back. Dedmon said the same thing.

If they do bring him back, though, it could signal that a) Dedmon is coming back and they needed room or b) They don't intend to have cap space next summer because they want to re-up Anderson and/or Bertans

I'm inclined to believe that Pau wouldn't have declined $16M unless he believed there was a very clear cut agreement with the Spurs (albeit verbal) that they would be giving him a longer-term contract.

And if the Spurs told him that, then don't deliver, that's the type of shady that discourages FA's from coming here.

[NASpurs]

You're talking about a team who gifted Manu 14 million last season for loyalty. C'mon son, you and I both know Spurs are not trading Parker. it is not happening and everyone knows it. on top of that, you have to take into account that no one wants to trade for an injured past his prime player on his last legs for 15 million, expiring or not, unless they're trading us a garbage contract in return like Noah which we don't want either.

You people need to get this idea that the spurs are going to trade Parker out of your head. Its. Not. Gonna. Happen. GUARANTEED.

It wasn't really gifted since Philly were going to pay Manu an absurd amount of money.

[Mr. Body]

Yet another person who thinks Spurs are going to trade TP. THEY'RE NOT TRADING TP. Stop with this fantasy already

Seriously. It's never going to happen.

[phxspurfan]

armchair GM thread!

[Joseph Kony]

It wasn't really gifted since Philly were going to pay Manu an absurd amount of money.

Sure it was, just because Philly is re ed and offered him 20 million for a season doesn't mean he was worth the 14 million he got for his production. That was a gift the Spurs gave him out of respect to let him remain in SA. Philly offered a ridiculous amount, spurs offered him something in the ballpark out of respect to his previous contributions, aka a gift contract. Regardless, we all know they are not trading Parker.

[tmtcsc]

Seriously. It's never going to happen.

Give me one reason - backed up with evidence, that the Spurs would not trade TP. Besides thinking that he is some sort of royalty and untouchable. Do you think it would be cold-blooded? Is that what this is about?

Can you seriously imagine Pop telling Leonard, "We have a chance to improve but we feel a sense of loyalty to TP for all he's done for the franchise...most of it happening before you got here. So, we are going to just sit back and let him rehab and come back when he's ready. The good news is, he feels confident he can be here another additional 3 or 4 years, and since he is so treasured, we will sign him up so he can say he played 20 seasons in the NBA. You cool with that?"

Pfffffffft

[tmtcsc]

Yet another person who thinks Spurs are going to trade TP. THEY'RE NOT TRADING TP. Stop with this fantasy already

You're the one being delusional and I'm not sure where this type of logic is coming from. I've stated this over and over in this forum. IF the Spurs don't move TP it won't be because of any "loyalty" to him. That is such bull . It's going to be because no other team was willing to take on his salary dump.

Give me one, just one good reason they won't move him if they can. He is clearly not the player he once was and now has a potentially career-ending injury. He will be able to play BB eventually and at some level but will it be at a 15 Mill per season level? No way in . It would be unprecedented for him just to step on the court again.

There is no comparison to Manu Ginobili. Manu played below market value for at least a couple of years in order for the team to attain additional quality players. With Tim's departure and while still retaining Championship aspirations, the team was desperate for Ginobili's leadership and presence in the locker room. Was he worth 14 Mill? Not on the court. But the Sixers were willing to pay him that much and that's why the Spurs ponied up so much. That won't happen again. They are prepared to move on without him and if he wants to play again, they'll gladly bring him back for less $$ and less minutes. He is old but is in good physical shape. His salary won't hurt the Spurs.

[Joseph Kony]

The fact that the Spurs didn't salary dump Tim when he opted in to his contract and opted to stretch him should tell you all you need to know. Lol at dismissing Manu's loyalty contract. They're not going to move him because they're not. because he is a spurs legend and Pop has made it VERY clear over his tenure some things are more important than basketball. parker has been garbage since 2015, if they havent traded him yet what makes you think they will now? You are 100% wrong. Spurs will not trade the player who continually was loyal to them and took discounts in his prime to stay here. You are ing delusional if you believe they will just salary dump a franchise icon to open up some cap space. for real.

[D_Admiral]

I agree parker stays

[Ice009]

The fact that the Spurs didn't salary dump Tim when he opted in to his contract and opted to stretch him should tell you all you need to know. Lol at dismissing Manu's loyalty contract. They're not going to move him because they're not. because he is a spurs legend and Pop has made it VERY clear over his tenure some things are more important than basketball. parker has been garbage since 2015, if they havent traded him yet what makes you think they will now? You are 100% wrong. Spurs will not trade the player who continually was loyal to them and took discounts in his prime to stay here. You are ing delusional if you believe they will just salary dump a franchise icon to open up some cap space. for real.

Well they're ing idiots if they don't. The Spurs have given him everything (4 Championships and playing with legends such as Tim Duncan, David Robinson, Manu Ginobili). They OWE HIM NOTHING. If they have a chance to significantly improve by trading TP and they don't do it, I hope Kawhi tells them to off when he's a free agent next.

I mean, I remember a quote from TP years ago saying that he could take a max contact somewhere such as Atlanta and be miserable, or he could sign for a little less and play for the Spurs and be happier. That was his choice to stay and take less. I recall there was even one time Peter Holt didn't even want to pay him a discount contract. I think it took Pop and some of the people/players in the organization to convince Holt to do it.

He should not be untouchable with how poorly he's played the past 3 years. He wasn't worth what he was paid the past few years, so IMO the past few seasons are payback (money wise) for some of the lesser contracts he's been paid. Again, the Spurs, OWE HIM NOTHING.

[Joseph Kony]

I'm not saying that he shouldn't be traded. Parker should be traded, he should've been traded after his stinkfest in 2015. My point is that he won't be traded. One, because no one will take him, and two, because Spurs will not trade him unless someone offers something out of this world (which no one would) for him. Spurs will not salary dump an all-time great on the last year of his deal. They just wont. If you really believe this you apparently havent been following Pop's spurs for very long. And it's getting annoying hearing people make up trade scenarios and FA signing scenarios that involve trading parker, because ether way, IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN, so quit fantasizing about it

[Ice009]

I'm not saying that he shouldn't be traded. Parker should be traded, he should've been traded after his stinkfest in 2015. My point is that he won't be traded. One, because no one will take him, and two, because Spurs will not trade him unless someone offers something out of this world (which no one would) for him. Spurs will not salary dump an all-time great on the last year of his deal. They just wont. If you really believe this you apparently havent been following Pop's spurs for very long. And it's getting annoying hearing people make up trade scenarios and FA signing scenarios that involve trading parker, because ether way, IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN, so quit fantasizing about it

I've been following the Spurs for close to 25 years. I think it is you who hasn't been following the Spurs. They let Avery Johnson go, they were willing to let David Robinson walk, they tried trading Brent Barry more than once, they traded Bruce Bowen. i don't see why they wouldn't trade TP if there opportunity was there.

Parker currently has a serious injury, he might not even play this season, so if they can salary dump his contract with a pick to open up more cap space, there is no reason not to do it. He's not a Spurs legend on the level of Tim Duncan, D-Rob or even Manu. The Spurs probably would have let Manu walk last off-season if they weren't in position to pay anywhere near what Philadelphia was offering.

[Dverde]

I'm not saying that he shouldn't be traded. Parker should be traded, he should've been traded after his stinkfest in 2015. My point is that he won't be traded. One, because no one will take him, and two, because Spurs will not trade him unless someone offers something out of this world (which no one would) for him. Spurs will not salary dump an all-time great on the last year of his deal. They just wont. If you really believe this you apparently havent been following Pop's spurs for very long. And it's getting annoying hearing people make up trade scenarios and FA signing scenarios that involve trading parker, because ether way, IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN, so quit fantasizing about it

Preach!

[buttsR4rebounding]

I've been following the Spurs for close to 25 years. I think it is you who hasn't been following the Spurs. They let Avery Johnson go, they were willing to let David Robinson walk, they tried trading Brent Barry more than once, they traded Bruce Bowen. i don't see why they wouldn't trade TP if there opportunity was there.

Parker currently has a serious injury, he might not even play this season, so if they can salary dump his contract with a pick to open up more cap space, there is no reason not to do it. He's not a Spurs legend on the level of Tim Duncan, D-Rob or even Manu. The Spurs probably would have let Manu walk last off-season if they weren't in position to pay anywhere near what Philadelphia was offering.

Even though you are a relative newcomer to Spurs fandom I have to agree.

[Mr. Body]

Give me one reason - backed up with evidence, that the Spurs would not trade TP. Besides thinking that he is some sort of royalty and untouchable. Do you think it would be cold-blooded? Is that what this is about?

Can you seriously imagine Pop telling Leonard, "We have a chance to improve but we feel a sense of loyalty to TP for all he's done for the franchise...most of it happening before you got here. So, we are going to just sit back and let him rehab and come back when he's ready. The good news is, he feels confident he can be here another additional 3 or 4 years, and since he is so treasured, we will sign him up so he can say he played 20 seasons in the NBA. You cool with that?"

Pfffffffft

No ing way they trade Parker. Period. It's not gonna happen.

[Leetonidas]

I've been following the Spurs for close to 25 years. I think it is you who hasn't been following the Spurs. They let Avery Johnson go, they were willing to let David Robinson walk, they tried trading Brent Barry more than once, they traded Bruce Bowen. i don't see why they wouldn't trade TP if there opportunity was there.

Parker currently has a serious injury, he might not even play this season, so if they can salary dump his contract with a pick to open up more cap space, there is no reason not to do it. He's not a Spurs legend on the level of Tim Duncan, D-Rob or even Manu. The Spurs probably would have let Manu walk last off-season if they weren't in position to pay anywhere near what Philadelphia was offering.

Avery Johnson is nowhere near the spurs legend Parker is. Maybe letting David walk is not the same as salary dumping him. Bowen is nowhere near the player Parker was for SA and he was old as and likely to retire anyway. And lol at throwing Barry in there. Those are terrible comparisons. Try again

[Leetonidas]

Also how is anyone supposed to provide evidence of a hypothetical scenario that won't happen? that doesn't even make sense

[Ice009]

Avery Johnson is nowhere near the spurs legend Parker is. Maybe letting David walk is not the same as salary dumping him. Bowen is nowhere near the player Parker was for SA and he was old as and likely to retire anyway. And lol at throwing Barry in there. Those are terrible comparisons. Try again

And Parker isn't old as ? Speak for yourself about Bowen. I liked Bowen MORE than I ever have TP.

[Leetonidas]

And Parker isn't old as ? Speak for yourself about Bowen. I liked Bowen MORE than I ever have TP.

No one cares what you like. Spurs aren't going to trade Parker. Get over it and move on

[Ice009]

No one cares what you like. Spurs aren't going to trade Parker. Get over it and move on

And I don't give a about the average Spurs fan's opinion of if they like TP better.

[Joseph Kony]

And I don't give a about the average Spurs fan's opinion of if they like TP better.

cool story bro. your opinion is irrelevant. spurs are not trading TP. no one wants him and spurs won't trade him. so move on

[tholdren]

Pls site a past example of when the Spurs chose "loyalty and penny pinching" in the past.

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