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No, the owners and GMs always blow their salary alottments. That's the point. They overbid for players like Millsap and hang albatrosses around their necks constantly,
"It was never about the 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021 or 2022 FA class guys. 2023 was always the plan. Chess not checkers." - PATFO fluffers
No, the owners and GMs always blow their salary alottments. That's the point. They overbid for players like Millsap and hang albatrosses around their necks constantly,
The lack of trust in the FO on this board is staggering. Does no one think the Spurs look no further ahead than one year? They see not much cap room for next summer, just like any article you might read. Lack of cap room mean lack of opt outs, and so, lack of movement. They're keeping their powder dry for 2019. At that point, Gasol can either be stretched easily, or salary dumped, gaining some team about $10M in cap room if they cut him. Kawhi is eligible for a 5/$217M super max extension next summer, far more than any other team can offer, and it won't kick in until 2019. Butler and PG13 were NOT eligible for this, leaving their teams hanging out to dry by having to compete with other teams similar offers, and that's the main reason they went on the trade block.
It's basic math, tbh. ESPN has nothing to do with it, it's the players' union who was greedy and wouldn't agree to smooth out the cap increase.
This... Smh! Begs the question, though, whether CP3 screwed us. I don't think PATFO works with Pau on an opt-out and re-sign unless they were confident that they could sign their FA target.
Instead of Gasol and Mills and the plethora of project Gs they have collected, I wish they had taken some flyers. We desperately need athleticism yet we allowed two of our best athletes to walk. Nobody - not even PATFO re-ups Tony at this juncture. THIS SEASON is his gift. And Danny will be traded before that.$98,000,000 to Gasol and Mills is literally just as bad as any of those stupid deals
Just wait until Parker and Green's contract extensions....
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You make it sound like the cap is their allowance or something. It's the their operating budget. Not spending parts of it is putting yourself at a compe ive disadvantage. Sure, if the league were a hive mind, it could dictate the market and not "not overpay", but game theory should tell you why that doesn't work.
The only way to reasonably curtail spending is by limiting the amount they CAN spend. The owners tried to do this with a tax, but this is only partially effective and ultimately wrong-headed. They've tried with a hard cap too, but the players rejected that (for good reason on their part. Smoothing would have limited the APY for the overpaid guys and opened up a new cap stream for future players. It was the best way to make everyone happy in the long run, but because the NBPA is run by older stars, it was never going to fly.
Now the players are stuck without the prospect of future money, while the owners are just fine.
Proven rotation players don't come that cheap. I'm not shocked at all in terms of the dollar figures.
I wonder why you're worried about those owners' money...If Lacob is willing to pay tax the next season in order to have the best team he could make, I wouldn't criticize him, I would APPLAUD him.
I would love if my favorite team has an owner who wouldn't care about tax while signing two, three max deals to win a ring against the other superteams of the league.
They could have more cap room in 2018 without those 16M of Gasol's deal of next summer. The goal was supposedly in 2018 with Parker's contract ending, plenty of player and team options, that would be the perfect situation, but now it's 2019?
However, after Parker's new contract and posible Danny's new deal, I doubt about Spurs flexibility in 2019. Then they will dream with 2021...
I wouldn't be so sure about the Spurs giving Kawhi that extension, they will convince him to wait for the team signing some FAs but they will reject any Spurs' offer anyway....At that point, Gasol can either be stretched easily, or salary dumped, gaining some team about $10M in cap room if they cut him. Kawhi is eligible for a 5/$217M super max extension next summer, far more than any other team can offer, and it won't kick in until 2019. Butler and PG13 were NOT eligible for this, leaving their teams hanging out to dry by having to compete with other teams similar offers, and that's the main reason they went on the trade block.
Spurs had one of the worst off-seasons in the West.
They didn't accomplish any of their goals.
Didn't sign anyone who moves the needle.
Lost flexibility.
Gave out bad contracts - Mills and Gasol alone is as much as a max contract
Made a risky move for Gay.
Made a bad draft pick.
Likely got worse as a whole and didn't improve at any positions of need while losing depth.
Christ...What a ty off-season
What is smoothing?
When the $s of the new deal were known and it was clear there was going to be a huge cap increase, some of the smarter people proposed that the cap doesn't increase so sharply, but the increase should be smoothed over a period of time, so that every FA would get a piece of it, instead of just those who were FAs last summer, and to a lesser extend this one. Say, the cap wouldn't have risen from $70 mil to $90 to $100 in 2 years, but it could have been smoother, while the players would still be getting their 51% per the CBA.
The players union rejected this proposal, as it was apparently too difficult for them to realize that dipping their hands in the cash immediately wasn't the best long term solution. Thus now we have the super team in GS and Chandler Parsons on a $100mil contract and some really good players on bargain deals.
The players rejected smoothing because a mutual CBA opt out for both sides was approaching, and any new CBA would be a blank sheet of paper, and any deferred "smoothing dollars" could be forfeited. A bird in the hand...
Why would I be worried about these owners possibly paying repeater tax penalties in 2019? If it leads to Thompson being signed by the Spurs, or any other team, I'm hoping they continue to their spending. Like you mentioned, a team can sign two maybe three max deals but not four. They're keeping Donkey so Thompson is gone.
Just keep focusing on worst case scenarios for the Spurs if that's what makes you happy. I'll save my applause for the Spurs you can applaud other franchises.
Do I agree with every single decision PATFO makes? Of course not but at least I'm smart enough to realize that they're more qualified to make those decisions compared to some of the vocal minority here.
That assumes smoothing was going to be a deferred process. Instead, it could have been an expedite (bumping up the 2015 cap by several million and lowering the 2017 cap. I'm pretty sure that was at least part of the reported proposal (the 2015 bump, not necessarily the 2017 decrease), as well as a lump sum to the players. If anything, I think it was the latter aspect that turned the NBPA off, because that would have meant all players getting an equal slice, and the president and VP of the players' association weren't about to agree to that.
Like if the Spurs will sign Thompson or GSW losing Thompson will affect their chance of winning other ring.
Tell me when they can lose Curry or KD -which isn't the case for the next two seasons until 2020- and I'll be worried about other teams paying tax.
Good for you.Just keep focusing on worst case scenarios for the Spurs if that's what makes you happy. I'll save my applause for the Spurs you can applaud other franchises.
Do I agree with every single decision PATFO makes? Of course not but at least I'm smart enough to realize that they're more qualified to make those decisions compared to some of the vocal minority here.
Next time, you will need to be smart enough to realize that if fans criticize PATFO doesn't mean they think they can make better decisions running an NBA organization.
Anyway, the inability of some fans to recognize Spurs' FO failed this offseason in any target they had is annoying.
The Spurs desperately wanted to Pau to opt out to clear space for a big fish, like they wanted to trade Green for the same reason....
They failed in their attempt to lure a big name this offseason and that's why they have to waint until 2019-2021 instead of 2018.
Now, people are dennying that and posting 2019 was originally the real goal but it wasn't true.
If you don't see how losing Thompson makes the Warriors worse we'll just agree to disagree on that. But to say that if he actually signed with the Spurs that wouldn't give them an advantage over the Warriors? Please.
The Spurs failed in landing any target? So the Spurs didn't target Gay? That was obvious and they signed him.
What you really meant was PATFO didn't land Paul so that's a failure? That's debatable. I'm actually glad they didn't sign him. If he really wanted to be a Spur he would've taken a pay cut he didn't and that's the end of it. Ultimately, the Spurs are still going to advance versus the Rockets in the playoffs.
You say the inabilty of fans recognizing this off season as a failure annoys you. I can't imagine that is more annoying than almost every thread turning into how PATFO are clueless.
All of this. ^
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